that would be one way to look at it :)

Sing it Ethyl:

"Everything's coming up roses!"

:)

I let all my babies go MP but how long can you keep paying reg fees. I really got $400 for them as I dont pay the $9 reg fee with Moniker over the next year or have to spend time selling them individually. Plus I have other plans. Still in Adult. Still in porn. You betcha. :)

celebritybondage and celebrityfootfetish could be killer tubes. Very untapped espec celebritybondage

girlieboys has potential. Anyhow my best to the new owner if you read this. You got a good deal and it was a pleasure doing biz.

When I look back at my first sale thread in 2009 when I was asking 4 figs each. :) Times have changed and I was crazy. :)

You can tell my interests, foot fetish, celebrity, bondage and hee hooo "i wear lace and i wear black leather" and Nikki LOL j/k about the lace but Nikki is hot. She cant be a tranny is she? :)

i wear lace and i wear black leather



Actually not all my babies :winkwink:

It's 100 f'n degrees outside. But the rains will come tonight after three days of this. Then 85 tomorrow. :)

It's hot. How hot is it? :)

It is so hot that even Sally and Paul would take a chill pill. :)

For me now.. :) couple Coronas, couple egg rolls, lil hot mustard :) few jalapano chips, another Corona, and down..

Let me decipher.. :) buying traffic can be a bitch. :) You usually have to try 3 sources to find one good one. I'd def use Adwords if I owned paysites. Yahoo too. Yahoo doesnt allow affils but allows owners I think.

Last time I checked Yahoo allows no affils. Not sure if they allow porn, just know no affils.

Sure wish Bing or MSN would allow adult PPC and start a new Bing for porn ads revolution circa Adwords 2004. That would be sweet. But they still dont allow porn. Bill says no porn. :)

Bing has a nice style where you can mouseout and expand the site in the listings. Like to see them continue to close the gap on ultra picky Google.

Hope I see the day when they lose that pickyness.

Send your Exit links to Yahoo or Bing. Close the gap some more.

i think sally would make a great wife for paul if his marriage goes south

Agreed and my comments are in no way directed at them. The good thing would be to look at those who do still make good money and ask why. Then how can it be duplicated?

The problem with so many online guys is they think inside their box and anyone who thinks in a different box is wrong.

Bangbus did great numbers at the beginning. Because they took an idea from mainstream, adapted it and were the first to bring it online. They produced for what was then a good product, the only criticism I have of them is it became a bit repetitive. How many time can you watch the same scene shot with the same guys or/and by the same guys before it gets boring?

However still a good site.

Partyhardcore is the same. It looks like it's now been taken over by Evil Angel. Perfect Gonzo, FTV girls, Alsscan and more. But no where near enough. And how many affiliates were promoting them. Were they saturated programs? Saturated with affiliates.

How did they pay for their good to great content? Not by throwing masses of traffic. By converting and retaining better. They got masses of traffic by the good affiliates because they worked well.

Then how many sites were thrown up, cheap content, good design and massive traffic?

The problem was all those cheap sites were put up and promoted by people who thought inside their box and anyone offering something different to think about was ridiculed. Those who thought the same as them were made into "Bros".

Yep. The stuff that still sells is the stuff that brings something new or better. This can take many forms.

I agree with you that giving away content is what hurt this ind the most as a whole. But that is now how it's done. Content has become the loss leader to get surfers and then upsell them something else. Not saying nothing new here.

Soon as these new content laws went through where you are "innocent until proven guilty" and "user uploaded", guys said fuck it and thru everyone's full vids up. Happened around the same time as YouTube took off. Coincidence? Or lobbying?

So it's the govt passing those new laws that made it difficult to persue infringers and really set the whole thing on a downward slope to disaster. Think it was around 2006-7 when these laws changed.

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But there is always a way to make a few $$. Work smarter not harder has always been and still is the best advice.

The secrets guys have are not that complicated but they had to try maybe 5 things to find one that works for THEM. This is not a get rich quick biz anymore for the most part.

The guys with solid longterm plans, who build something good, who work at them everyday, will emerge as the next moneymakers.

Adult WM is dead. Doorway pages, consoles, repetiton, ect ect is dead or dieing. It is building QUALITY sites, that meet a demand, where the future is.