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Serge Litehead 07-19-2011 07:26 PM
can you tell me how much torrents pull in bandwidth for tv shows, movies?
how many copyrighted software being downloaded illegally, music and games?
check those particular stats if you have all that setup to check, since you fail to see trackers top lists and what's on there

gather full data, and btw you can't compare bandwidth for video used with anything else.. that why i formulated above first two questions the way I did

then get back to us. so far you're pulling numbers out of nowhere

epitome 07-19-2011 08:01 PM
Gideon should go work for. XXX

I think he actually believes the BS he spews.

L-Pink 07-19-2011 08:10 PM
Any astute business owner knows theft is good for his business ...... right gideon?

SmokeyTheBear 07-19-2011 11:55 PM
lol @ gideons bullshit..

in other news.. a recent poll of liars found that 90% of liars , told the truth..

munki 07-19-2011 11:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 18292581)
dude, leave me out of this...

i didnt do anything to you... :2 cents:






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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

gideongallery 07-20-2011 05:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 18293394)
What a bunch of BS. How do you explain the decline in sales? If 83% of the people that were pirating music out there went out and bought the CD or tracks online afterwards the music industry wouldn't be in the state it is now.
that statement was in response to

Quote:
there is no reason to go out and purchase it since you already have a copy of it that is indistinguishable from the retail version, other than some packaging.

I used to record songs off the radio when I was a kid, but would eventually buy the real cassette since it sounded better and was more convenient, etc. No reason to do that anymore with lossless digital copies.
you were arguing no one would buy because the pirated copy was so good

i am talking about the way i teach musicians to market to pirates

it possible to get 83% rate by giving away the music and asking them the right way to pay if they like it.

gideongallery 07-20-2011 05:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18293385)
Radio stations pay royalties to ASCAP and BMI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCAP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_Music,_Inc.


You wouldn't be a pirate if you paid royalties.


You really don't know as much as you think you do.

:2 cents:
and canadians pay a royalty thru a piracy tax for all pirated music

that the point

i do pay royalties for all the music i download from torrents

pornguy 07-20-2011 05:20 AM
admitting to a company even like that, that you have no problem taking stolen music and movies etc is confessing to a crime. I am sure they get honest answers when asking people.

wehateporn 07-20-2011 05:52 AM
Myself, I'd be lost without the BBC iPlayer, but I do pay my TV License (they'd send the Gestapo if I didn't). There's always plenty of stuff I enjoy on there

L-Pink 07-20-2011 05:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18294015)
and canadians pay a royalty thru a piracy tax for all pirated music

that the point

i do pay royalties for all the music i download from torrents
Educate me, when you download Barry Manilow's greatest hits from a torrent site how does the Canadian government make sure he is compensated?

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DamianJ 07-20-2011 06:09 AM
I wonder how long it would take for Gideon to stop posting bollocks here if everyone ignored him? Could we all make a pact? Go on.

DamianJ 07-20-2011 06:10 AM
Fiddy people being trolled by a loony.

gideongallery 07-20-2011 08:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18294162)
Educate me, when you download Barry Manilow's greatest hits from a torrent site how does the Canadian government make sure he is compensated?

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http://neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml

http://www.1729.com/ip/CopyrightLevies.html

the link predates the canadian supreme court ruling upholding aand extending the copyright boards ruling

so it mistakenly says sharing content you bought on p2p is wrong.

but the information about filling out the paper work and getting your share of the collected taxes is there.

NetHorse 07-20-2011 08:01 AM
What exactly does this signify? What was the sample size, 100 people? What a useless article to post on GFY.

We don't need a consumer research company to do an insignificant survey to know that piracy continues to fuck this industry in the ass.

kane 07-20-2011 12:42 PM
This just in. People who shoplift food also sometimes buy food.

Serge Litehead 07-20-2011 12:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kane (Post 18295347)
This just in. People who shoplift food also sometimes buy food.
than it should be perfectly alright! :upsidedow

TheSquealer 07-20-2011 12:49 PM
Why do you guys argue with this idiot? He sets himself up with arguments that he's more prepared than anyone else to argue. He's passionate about stealing. He loves it. He promotes and defends wholesale theft non stop. He's not even in the biz.

blackmonsters 07-20-2011 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18294015)
and canadians pay a royalty thru a piracy tax for all pirated music

that the point

i do pay royalties for all the music i download from torrents
It's the fucking torrent that needs to pay, not you the downloader.

:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme

gideongallery 07-20-2011 05:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18295385)
It's the fucking torrent that needs to pay, not you the downloader.

:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme
so what the supreme court says is 100% legal is not legal because i am paying the royalties not the seeder


you do realize that when you buy music from a store, your paying the royalties too right


btw that how the seeder licienced the content by buying the cd in the first place.

http://neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml

Quote:
  1. If someone steals a commercial CD, steals a blank CD-R, and then copies the commercial CD onto the CD-R, they are a thief, but they have not infringed copyright.
  2. You can legally lend a commercial CD to a friend, give him a blank CD-R, let him use your computer, and help him burn the CD-R which he can keep for his own private use.
  3. You can legally copy a commercial CD , keep the copy, and give your friend the original.
  4. You cannot legally make the copy yourself and give your friend the copy.
  5. Your friends Alice and Benoit really like the new commercial CD you just purchased. Alice borrows it and makes a copy for her own use. She then passes the commercial CD on to Benoit, who makes a copy for his own use. Benoit gives the commercial CD back to you. This is all perfectly legal.
  6. However, if Alice had copied the commercial CD, given it back to you, and passed her copy on to Benoit to make a copy for his own use, then copyright would have "probably" been infringed. There is some doubt here because Alice's original intent is important. In the strictest terms, her copy was no longer just for her private use. Pretty strange considering that the end result of examples 5 and 6 are exactly the same!

blackmonsters 07-20-2011 06:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18295846)
so what the supreme court says is 100% legal is not legal because i am paying the royalties not the seeder


you do realize that when you buy music from a store, your paying the royalties too right


btw that how the seeder licienced the content by buying the cd in the first place.

http://neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml
:1orglaugh

American music/film makers don't use Canadian laws.

And distribution royalties are not paid when someone buys a CD.

See, the torrent is distributing the content without a license to distribute.
That's the part that you refuse to understand.

If you are seeding the torrent then you are assisting in the distribution also.

And it doesn't slip by me that you quote Canadian laws about content and it's a
fact that Canadian music and film is fucking crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe your laws are the reason that your stuff sucks.


Americans created Rock and Roll, Jazz, Rhythm and Blues, Hip Hop, Rap, Country,
Rag Time, etc...etc....

Canada created fucking nothing except putting gravy on french fries. :1orglaugh

Your laws make it not worth creating and that's why your country is militarily weak and
your talent sucks.


Why don't you people invent something worth a shit that America can use like a
weapon or even a stove. All you do is suck up all our shit and now you don't want to
pay for it either.

L-Pink 07-20-2011 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18295891)
:1orglaugh

American music/film makers don't use Canadian laws.

And distribution royalties are not paid when someone buys a CD.

See, the torrent is distributing the content without a license to distribute.
That's the part that you refuse to understand.

If you are seeding the torrent then you are assisting in the distribution also.

And it doesn't slip by me that you quote Canadian laws about content and it's a
fact that Canadian music and film is fucking crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe your laws are the reason that your stuff sucks.


Americans created Rock and Roll, Jazz, Rhythm and Blues, Hip Hop, Rap, Country,
Rag Time, etc...etc....

Canada created fucking nothing except putting gravy on french fries. :1orglaugh

Your laws make it not worth creating and that's why your country is militarily weak and
your talent sucks.


Why don't you people invent something worth a shit that America can use like a
weapon or even a stove. All you do is suck up all our shit and now you don't want to
pay for it either.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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L-Pink 07-20-2011 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18294439)
but the information about filling out the paper work and getting your share of the collected taxes is there.
So how much a year can Metallica collect vs some band that sells almost nothing? Are they paid per song? What makes a tax collected by another country worth more than STOLEN royalties?

gideongallery 07-20-2011 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18295891)
:1orglaugh

American music/film makers don't use Canadian laws.
1. i am canadian so i do
2. actually it only stupid american musicians who don't because as writers of songs they are entitled to money.
3. weather they claim it or not my fair use right have been extended to that level.

blackmonsters 07-20-2011 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18295945)
1. i am canadian so i do
2. actually it only stupid american musicians who don't because as writers of songs they are entitled to money.
3. weather they claim it or not my fair use right have been extended to that level.
1. STFU.
2. STFU Twice
3. WTF are smoking? Oops, don't tell me....see 1. and 2.


:1orglaugh

gideongallery 07-20-2011 08:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18295891)
Canada created fucking nothing except putting gravy on french fries. :1orglaugh













gideongallery 07-20-2011 08:50 PM
and don't forget

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_McLuhan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Taylor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peters_Humphrey


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