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Choopa Phil 07-20-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18294463)
That's sort of important information you should have mentioned in the first post.

yea i still dont believe it tho...seems like its an after the fact type of post and he realizes hes making a huge mistake. to all the guys giving nutrition advice everyone seems to be in "the know" but lets see if you practice what you preach! lets see what y'all look like :thumbsup

Spudstr 07-20-2011 09:01 AM

I just started going back to the gym, i've lost 15lbs in bout 2 months but putting on a lot of muscle gains at the same time, muscle memory rocks. I still eat pretty much normal what I use to eat just added more protein to my daily diet.

munki 07-20-2011 09:12 AM

I've been hopping on the bike for a good 10-15 miles each day for about a month now... nothing measurable but I feel a shit ton better just getting out and active from behind the monitor wall...

EthnicLover 07-20-2011 09:16 AM

Make a lifestyle change, don't go on a diet. Diets never last.

dyna mo 07-20-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18294504)
yea i still dont believe it tho...seems like its an after the fact type of post and he realizes hes making a huge mistake. to all the guys giving nutrition advice everyone seems to be in "the know" but lets see if you practice what you preach! lets see what y'all look like :thumbsup

here's a few in a row of me from the last 20 months

http://alsscan.dvdsuperstar.com/imag...od-results.jpg

_Richard_ 07-20-2011 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 2intense (Post 18294274)
so GAy ___________

every naked man is gay now? :(

i missed the 'don't ever get naked' memo

Choopa Phil 07-20-2011 09:25 AM

this is me last year out with a buddy at a club

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...z123/fatty.jpg

this is me taken 2 days ago

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...123/photo7.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...z123/week9.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...23/inkedup.jpg

Sly 07-20-2011 09:26 AM

I am suddenly so aroused.

Sophie Delancey 07-20-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by EthnicLover (Post 18294667)
Make a lifestyle change, don't go on a diet. Diets never last.

That's what I'm trying to do. I've been trying to get more protein into my diet (I'm veggie, so that often means carbs and fruits/veg, but very little else), to drink more water and to commit to an hour a day of some kind of workout, be it Zumba, hot yoga, a little Dance Central or a dance class. So far, so good. I've still got a way to go, but I'm getting there and I'm feeling much better in the process.

Choopa Phil 07-20-2011 09:30 AM

4200 cals a day, 3x a week fasted cardio in the morning with BCAA's. staple supplements include protein, creatine, fish oil, multivitamin, and BCAAs. Ive been on Lean Xtreme which is a fat burner and cortisol blocker for about 3 weeks so far. It really helped get rid of the stubborn BF that wouldnt go away on my abs

PR_Glen 07-20-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18294226)
says the guy who calls BCAA's chemicals...get real you are ignorant on anything nutrition or health related. Cool you ran marathons...lets see what you look like

haha i obviously missed the part where he said 1/ cantaloupe for breakfast or any portions i read that as thats all he was eating..

have fun with kidney failure roid rager...

dyna mo 07-20-2011 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by EthnicLover (Post 18294667)
Make a lifestyle change, don't go on a diet. Diets never last.

you don't want diets to last. dieting is inherently unhealthy. ideally, you want to be on an eating plan (diet) that provides you with all the macro and micro nutrients you require and withing the caloric window for your body.

i disagree with a lifestyle change somehow being easier than not. in fact, i advocate not looking at this sort of thing as a lifestyle change. lifestyle changes are bigtime difficult and the typical person stops trying to change their lifestyle after only 1 or 2 missteps.

dyna mo 07-20-2011 09:37 AM

i actually like the way the op is attacking the problem. while he does have some vague issues, cal counting, etc, starting this sort of thing by stopping bread and refined sugar is a good solid beginning.

Choopa Phil 07-20-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18294710)
haha i obviously missed the part where he said 1/ cantaloupe for breakfast or any portions i read that as thats all he was eating..

have fun with kidney failure roid rager...

what exactly is going to cause kidney failure? my protein, my aminos, or my creatine? please go on. and back up with what you say with published medical journals please, just as i proved you wrong with the aminos thread. 2 shakes a day, and 7 grams of creatine will have zero effect on anything, and its proved so in my bi annual blood tests for the past 4 years

_Richard_ 07-20-2011 09:41 AM

alright you rep knuckle heads.. calm the fuck down

bronco67 07-20-2011 09:46 AM

If you hit a plateau, and want to see a good boost in fat loss, try HIIT interval training -- specifically Tabata protocol.

The whole idea is to compress a high intensity workout into a short period of time...and I'm proof it works. My 40 inch waist has lost 6 inches, and I'm down about 15 pounds.

Don't try to do Tabata every day...if you can, then you're not doing it at full intensity. Just work it into your regular routine. You can use almost any exercise.

Oh, and there's a basketball court at my LA Fitness. Playing an hour of ball every day with the brothers ain't hurting either. I've become so into B-ball that I now own 3 basketballs and 2 pairs of shoes.

dyna mo 07-20-2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18294738)
alright you rep knuckle heads.. calm the fuck down

:1orglaugh

last i knew, phil & glen were generally on the same page...........

Choopa Phil 07-20-2011 09:52 AM

In a study(1) that was performed this year designed to study the effects of a high protein diet in young men, the blood markers for kidney function of 77 men who participated in an average of 6 hours of weight training per week (average age of 26), and ate a diet consisting of 19% protein were analyzed. Their protein intake came out to be about 0.76 grams of protein per pound bodyweight, which is very close to the 1 gram per pound minimum that is typically recommended for bodybuilders. Primary blood tests for kidney function were ran in which blood urea nitrogen, uric acid and creatinine levels were monitored. The measurements showed that all of these items were within normal parameters in all participating men.
Therefore, one can conclude that a high protein diet does not apply stress on healthy kidneys.

It must be mentioned that kidney function naturally declines with age due to the gradual loss of nephrons which are the kidney's filtering units. This loss can be caused by ailments like heart disease since in this case the blood flow to the kidneys is reduced. Also untreated high blood pressure can lead to kidney damage as well as long term use of prescription and non prescription pain relievers such as aspirin.


References
(1) LaBounty, P, et al. (2005). Blood markers of kidney function and dietary protein intake of resistance trained males. J Int Soc Sports Nutr.2:5

Creatine - http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...tural/873.html

check all the references there as well.

Do you have your PHD in Broscience?

bronco67 07-20-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18294769)
In a study(1) that was performed this year designed to study the effects of a high protein diet in young men, the blood markers for kidney function of 77 men who participated in an average of 6 hours of weight training per week (average age of 26), and ate a diet consisting of 19% protein were analyzed. Their protein intake came out to be about 0.76 grams of protein per pound bodyweight, which is very close to the 1 gram per pound minimum that is typically recommended for bodybuilders. Primary blood tests for kidney function were ran in which blood urea nitrogen, uric acid and creatinine levels were monitored. The measurements showed that all of these items were within normal parameters in all participating men.
Therefore, one can conclude that a high protein diet does not apply stress on healthy kidneys.

It must be mentioned that kidney function naturally declines with age due to the gradual loss of nephrons which are the kidney's filtering units. This loss can be caused by ailments like heart disease since in this case the blood flow to the kidneys is reduced. Also untreated high blood pressure can lead to kidney damage as well as long term use of prescription and non prescription pain relievers such as aspirin.


References
(1) LaBounty, P, et al. (2005). Blood markers of kidney function and dietary protein intake of resistance trained males. J Int Soc Sports Nutr.2:5

Creatine - http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...tural/873.html

check all the references there as well.

Do you have your PHD in Broscience?

Droppin that science on us.

I always wondered if I was wrecking my kidneys with high protein consumption.

dyna mo 07-20-2011 09:56 AM

there's a lot of misinformation out there re: protein. not only in the bb world but i think worldwide in general and it started with WHO and the usrda under-prioritizing protein as a valuable macro. only 2 of the 3 macros are absolutely required- protein and fat. there are over 100,000 proteins in the human body with a handful of those being essential. when i design my eating plans, the very 1st macro that gets sorted out is protein. i then fill in the remaining required calories with fat, then carbs.

Choopa Phil 07-20-2011 09:59 AM

everything i say, do, eat, even the way i train has been taught to myself, by myself. I dont put anything in my body without doing extensive research. its assumptions and broscience by people like glen who spread misinformation and just add more to the hype that protein is bad and this isnt good and thats not either and blah blah blah. I have blood work to prove youre wrong, medical studies, you name it. lets see what his rebuttal will be. I can guarantee you it will have no scientific backing, or he just wont post in this thread anymore as he did last time.

Choopa Phil 07-20-2011 10:01 AM

dyna you still doing the "take charge"?

dyna mo 07-20-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18294803)
dyna you still doing the "take charge"?

sure am! i've got several people hooked on it, 1 at a time eh....:winkwink:

Choopa Phil 07-20-2011 10:06 AM

Thats awesome! ive only had the cinnamon mixed one, and it was very weird tasting in my shakes. I cant have any yogurt or dairy so i mixing it in that type of stuff is out of the question. how is the plain version?

bronco67 07-20-2011 10:16 AM

Choopa, do you know anything about T boosters that you can buy over the counter? Do they work?

dyna mo 07-20-2011 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18294823)
Thats awesome! ive only had the cinnamon mixed one, and it was very weird tasting in my shakes. I cant have any yogurt or dairy so i mixing it in that type of stuff is out of the question. how is the plain version?

it's fine. it won't win any taste awards but in a smoothie made of

almond milk
casein protein
egg protein
banana
take charge

it tastes just fine and goes down the hatch no probs. i drink a couple a day. sometimes i make em ~100g protein after a heavy workout or something and i find the take charge helps with that much protein.

Choopa Phil 07-20-2011 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18294844)
Choopa, do you know anything about T boosters that you can buy over the counter? Do they work?

activate xtreme by designer supps is the best available...tried and true ingredients. its what im running with lean xtreme. a great stack IMO

Choopa Phil 07-20-2011 10:20 AM

yea i think im going to give it a shot again, im getting tired of all the almonds or PB would be a nice change, as well as the benefits from all the antioxidants in there.

dyna mo 07-20-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18294864)
yea i think im going to give it a shot again, im getting tired of all the almonds or PB would be a nice change, as well as the benefits from all the antioxidants in there.

:thumbsup
right on, you can also take a break from your vitamin sup while eating take charge too. you can use any fruit you want, hell i put an entire apple in sometimes, seeds, core, everything. in fact, i think the official recipe should use an apple, not a banana. but hell, bananas are almost as good as apples, just a bit low on the fiber, that's why monkeys eat the peel i guess...........

JamesGw 07-20-2011 10:31 AM

Losing weight that quickly isn't really healthy. You can mess up your hormone levels and whatnot, especially at 43. It's different if you're competing - I've had guys drop 25 pounds in three weeks, but it's not weight that's easy to keep off.

cutedimples 07-20-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18294683)
every naked man is gay now? :(

i missed the 'don't ever get naked' memo

Not for women ;)

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18294695)
I am suddenly so aroused.

Lol!!!!!

biskoppen 07-20-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18294708)
4200 cals a day, 3x a week fasted cardio in the morning with BCAA's. staple supplements include protein, creatine, fish oil, multivitamin, and BCAAs. Ive been on Lean Xtreme which is a fat burner and cortisol blocker for about 3 weeks so far. It really helped get rid of the stubborn BF that wouldnt go away on my abs

Massive body dude.. and that back tattoo looks awesome

Allison 07-20-2011 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cutedimples (Post 18293575)
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/3623/armani41.jpg

6 Pack is SO hot! :zzwhip

You will have it back! Good luck!!!


Hey, he's mine! ;)

cutedimples 07-20-2011 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Allison (Post 18295568)
Hey, he's mine! ;)


:laughing-:laughing-:laughing-

benn626 07-20-2011 04:01 PM

check out this doc http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1227378/ (on netflix)

this is the diet im doing right now, lost 15 pds over last 2 weeks and feel great.. going to cut out all red meat and stick to a very high micronutrients diet once im done juicing.

bronco67 07-20-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by benn626 (Post 18295723)
check out this doc http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1227378/ (on netflix)

this is the diet im doing right now, lost 15 pds over last 2 weeks and feel great.. going to cut out all red meat and stick to a very high micronutrients diet once im done juicing.

I saw that movie, and while I think most diets are shit, this one makes total sense -- those green smoothies are all kinds of good for you. There's not much better things you can put in your body.

I couldn't follow his diet that strictly, but I work green smoothies into my weekly meals.

BTW, I highly recommend the Ninja 1100 blender. It chews through anything and is so well made. One of the best products I've ever bought.

Young 07-20-2011 09:15 PM

I have 205lbs on a 6'1" frame from eating right and hitting the gym 5 times a week. I have an 8 pack and 18" inch arms. Not to mention my waist is barely 32 inches. Haven't measured body fat in awhile but figuring that I can see the striations in my thighs and chest I'm guessing I'm sitting somewhere in the single digits.

I couldn't imagine force feeding myself 4,000 calories a day. And swallowing horse pill sized tabLet's 10x a day. Life must suck for you. To have to go through all of that shit just to maintain? You've been drinking the bodybuilding.com koolaid for far too long.

Eat right. Make sure you get enough protein. Work out. Take a multi. Period

If it takes adjusting and planning your entire day around calorie intake then you're doing something wrong.

Choopa Phil 07-21-2011 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 18296173)
I have 205lbs on a 6'1" frame from eating right and hitting the gym 5 times a week. I have an 8 pack and 18" inch arms. Not to mention my waist is barely 32 inches. Haven't measured body fat in awhile but figuring that I can see the striations in my thighs and chest I'm guessing I'm sitting somewhere in the single digits.

I couldn't imagine force feeding myself 4,000 calories a day. And swallowing horse pill sized tabLet's 10x a day. Life must suck for you. To have to go through all of that shit just to maintain? You've been drinking the bodybuilding.com koolaid for far too long.

Eat right. Make sure you get enough protein. Work out. Take a multi. Period

If it takes adjusting and planning your entire day around calorie intake then you're doing something wrong.

ive done this over the course of 3 1/2 years, i was 117lbs, i now sit at 180 @ 7-8%. im not doing a single thing wrong. I go out and still have a social life, i just choose not to drink. I dont take any tablets except my multi and fish oil. 4200 to bulk 3600 to maintain. I wont start to maintain till i hit around 185-190 then i will work on really sculpting the muscles to get that density I want, and that really comes with time. Gotta love muscle maturity. I think i got this under control tho. anything worth having is worth sacrificing for! :thumbsup

iamtam 07-21-2011 06:48 AM

7 pounds in 9 days is a little too fast. you should be aiming for a couple of pounds a week at best. crash weight loss usually means the pounds will pile right back on quickly. so you can enjoy losing 7 pounds that fast, but they will probably come back unless you spend the rest of your life eating like a rabbit.

bushwacker 07-21-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18296703)
ive done this over the course of 3 1/2 years, i was 117lbs, i now sit at 180 @ 7-8%. im not doing a single thing wrong. I go out and still have a social life, i just choose not to drink. I dont take any tablets except my multi and fish oil. 4200 to bulk 3600 to maintain. I wont start to maintain till i hit around 185-190 then i will work on really sculpting the muscles to get that density I want, and that really comes with time. Gotta love muscle maturity. I think i got this under control tho. anything worth having is worth sacrificing for! :thumbsup


You look like you have a mild touch of gyno, you ever juice?


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