And lastly sorry man. I went way overboard with you too.

no prob. was just fooling around.

Thanks man, Love you buddy :)

I am doing ok. Just when things get tight you get a little crazy.

But I am doing better every month. :thumbsup

rogue icq software

The only fucking guy who could ever be my boss. :) :thumbsup

I broke down here a bit ago from the love both on and off gfy.

Tears of love.

This is all I have anymore but I am home. :)

So emotional. Im like a girl sometimes. :)

Prob cause I was raised by mom since age 11. She died March 14 at 95. Tough year.

Tough year but i am doing better. No charity needed. But some truly great guys in this biz.

I am doing ok. :)
Got a $700 refund from the State in about a month, Barring disater i should continue to do better each month.

But there are some great people in this biz folks.

As usual I fly off the handle and think the worst. :)

Chat boards are just cold words without emotion and sometimes things get misjudged.

Ok let me see if I can find screen caps for FYC and MC.

I am airing it all out tonight. :)

Some correspondence Nick where Mitza says i was banned. This was the first time. I was unbanned and eventually all was paid except Meatcash. Then I was banned again.

--Starts at bottom and then up time wise

Hi Terrence,
I contacted Mitza regarding payment being late and found out my account is banned.
Could you please let me know why.

She said to contact you.

I have money currently owed from:

TripleXcash ($80.00) Account disabled when you send traffic, I can log in though and all looks fine.
Niched Sites ($60.00) I just started sending traffic and have $60 working. Account seems fine.
Meatcash (103.00) I can log in and account seems fine. Tho Mitza said it was "banned" Ragecash (nothing owed) Account seems fine.

Anyhow could you let me know what is up. What was wrong.
I really dont want to pull all links as I like your progs and have good ratios esp with nichedsites.

I have been an active WM (traffic grunt, no progs) since 1996. Joined my first prog in 1997.
If you go back a ways you know me. I'm low profile now days.

Anyhow I can pull links and shit but I would rather resolve this before doing anything.
I spent a bit of time setting up the profit stream to you. Grant it not a big one yet but consistant.
Hope you don't want to leave money on the table.

I own some decent domains. I don't cheat. : ) Plus I'm way to old now anyhow. : ) I was in my 40's when Serge Cash, Pink Bits, XPays and shit were around : ) Anyhow, this shit never happens to me.

Really appreciate your time and help. Nice to in essence meet you. I read your stuff on GFY and you seem to know whats up.
Enjoyed your post just today on what is worse, tubes or economy.

For the record, i say the economy. : )

Thanks again,

Correspondence with Mitza starts below:

--start correspondence--

your account was banned.

get in touch with terrence to clear your account

Mitza

On 11 22, 08, at 9:29 AM, John Cleaves 'Catman' wrote:

Hi Mitza,

I also noticed I did not receive the latest payment from Meatcash.
It is not that much overdue but thought I would write you on it.

Last payment received was $134.73 for periods 5-16-08 thru 6-30-08.
For periods 7-1-08 thru 10-31-08 there is now $104.79.
Thus, $104.79 now due. (minus epass fee)

acct:
phpenter

Really appreciate if you could also look into this.

Thanks again for your help,

--end correspondence--

It is old stuffand i realize i should have told you after i was banned again. Anyhow I am clearing the air here tonight.

I dont have proof and progs have changed. Nick, your offer before is enough to make me forget it. And If I could maybe be allowed in the progs again maybe. :)

Lets forget it. It is too old.

Sweet Home Alabama! Wait, you said Minnessota :)

Yeah.. I am in the exact same spot... got a late check from a sponsor, has happened before... last time went on 2-3 months for TWO different checks (last year)

Of course this time it just happens that my grandmother (about an hour away) needs groceries NOW and I had to take some extreme measures just to get her fed

Nothing in the WORLD pisses me off worse than paying me late. I've caused huge problems for those who have, in life. This sponsor is full of people I respect and all but love, so I am not going to the boards with it (I rarely EVER do.. I think AWE is the only sponsor I've ever spoken up against on the board).

And then after all I went through last time when they refused to expedite the check: I am told, I may end up having to pay a $25 fee this time!!!! I love them but if that is how it's gonna be, I'm done with them. I have got to have my limits.

But yes - I also qualify for all kinds of assistance, am in the "can o beans" situation and they can fucking keep their "aid". When I say I hate the raping thieving government, I MEAN IT, it means they can also keep the money they want to steal from someone to give to ME.

LOL I needed a laugh :) :thumbsup

Yeah I hate when that ICQ acts up. :)

Well sseing as how hard it seems to get NAM to address this I guess this was all nec. :Oh crap

Rogue email software too. :)

Hang in there man, things will get better. I'm sure they will pay, its probably some issue on their side and no one likes to give up money that they didnt plan on

acct: phpenter

email sent

If you can go back i should have some in Meatcash. But if not then that is how it goes. maybe you can find out why I was terminated the second time.

Thanks man. Appreciated. :thumbsup

I will respond to anyone I missed now.

Bumped for the truth.
FREE COTAC ! ! !

Thanks. It does suck. Should really get away from checks. They may have sent it and it got lost but then again checks dont get lost that easy and the way they seem to be avoiding me yesterday and today I dont know.

I obviously didnt cheat as they have been paying me every 8 months with this one member at least twice before. Last time way back in November 2010.

Exactly :thumbsup

Fuck.. You beat me to it ;p



.

I must say. I wasnt going to but I have to. Someone here insisted on sending me some money. I said i could get by but they would not take no for an answer.

This is why I am in tears. I have to take it. it was already sent. :)

This is the best business. You all are a little gruff or whatever but there are folks with a heart of gold here.

I didnt expect that tonight and I thank you all for your help. I coulkd of scraped by and I didnt want charity but since it was sent what do I do.

I am sorry for flying off the handle. I am a little dolphin amongst some very friendly whales I guess. :)

I feel like Sally Fields, "you like me you really like me"

Anyhow this person doubled my savings this month and I will be fine and will repay them when I can. They insisted. What can I do. :)

Thank you. You can ALL be proud of this biz tonight.

He insists on being anon so I will respect that but you all know him and he is a great fucking guy.

Your request was immediately sent to accounting yesterday after chatting with you for a bit.

Today I left early for a appointment which would be why I wasn't responding on icq. However, I can be reached at [email protected] anytime as I always have my phone with me.

This matter will be resolved first thing in the AM. I told you we would reissue your check no problem and you were very understanding about it so perhaps there was some miscommunication here.

Good stuff :thumbsup

edited in: A hunnerd good things...

Hey Vjo man!! I completely missed this thread yesterday wtf??? You can always email me when ranting like a (justified, justified) lunatic, just for the sheer pleasure of watching a true master Flame Out. Haha! Love ya buddy!

But wait - did you or did you NOT get your 30 beers? I mean, money to buy 30 beers? Whatever, I remember something about 30 beers....

Listen man, for real no bullshit now: You're a good man IMHO, and if you want some semi-steady blog writing shit hit me up. Ramble and post for fun and profit! :D

Hope you get ur dough dude - I know about (self-imposed) isolation. Be like Dylan, make it cool (watching 'No Direction Home' by Scorsese, killer!!!).

As long as you gots ur Internet, ur (30? 29? How many are on the wall....?), and your electricity/air conditioning things should be okay. :)

Pay this man!

PS: No, it wasn't me who sent the money - VJo, I offered you work instead, knowing your well-deserved pride. :)

Thank you. Just want to acknowledge all my friends in this thread.

I think it is important when someone wishes someone the best that they are acknowledged.

I am like a gracious host. Noone posts in my threads and is left alone. :)

Lookin' California, Feelin' Minnesota...hope you get what you are owed! :thumbsup

ADG

Hey buddy :thumbsup

I was going to email you back when I was flipping out. :) Seriously. But I got caught up when guys started emailing me.

Ya know I might take you up on a little writing. I like to think I am as good and pervy a writer as anyone. :)

I love this fucking guy folks. He eminates kindness. :)

I am getting emotional again.

Ok lets get back to having fun.

I LOVE you all. This night changed me.

Yes a couple months back I was down to zip and coulnt afford beer. But this month I can afford it and got 3 12s. :)

Ya got to have beer folks.

Lets have fun. I am going to tell you what you really need in life when you are down to $50 a week for groc. It is kind of interesting.

What does a guy really need most of all.. Beer #1, Potato chips (they are a good deal for the money) beef, (gottas have it 80% ground beef for tacos and a bit of pork or rump roast) cat food, (expensive but we all know cats need what they need) cheese (versatile) beans, 4 cans for 2 bucks is the best deal and some kind of sweets and pasta and red potatoes. And milk for the cat in summer.

This is bottom line what you got to have but beer is most important. :thumbsup

I was getting by but thanks to this fellow's insistant kindness now I can buy Egg Rolls :) YES!

In all seriousness it was tough but better now.

I have a $650 nut before food MP. I am OK. :) No cable. No phone. Dont tell my sponsors hehe

You can survive your lows if your nut is low enough. Only reason I am stilll alive in adult is I have such a low nut in MN. My prop taxes is $82 a year. :) Mobile Home. Nothing fancy here.

I want to tell that to Mr Maxwell cause I know he is having tough times too. Get that nut down MM. If yoiu can survive your low, the only way is up and you can survive and slowly make more and more and still be your own boss.

I also got a $700 prop tax refund on the mobile home lot rent coming in in a month and 1/2. (one of the great things about MN is rent and prop tax refunds) Then I will be rolling in dough. :) That is when I get ahead. :)

A little bit maybe yeah :)

Lets here from these guys. This says it best. "When your down thats where you'll stay". It gets frustrating and when you have a chance at a better month like this month and THEN a sponsor does this, yeah it makes you mad.



yes my fellow wms took the sting away tonight with their amazing generosity but still if they hadnt I would have really needed this $103 NAM owes me.

Sponsors who always have paid me on time:

(active payers only)

Nasty Dollars
Score Cash
DDF Cash
CCBill :)
Spice Cash
AFF
Mr. Skin Cash
21st Sextury
Silver Cash
Hazecash

These are top notch progs who always get you paid.

I have had one recur going on FOREVER with Spice Cash too but I KNOW Colin will always pay me till he cancells which may never happen cause Spice Cash RULES!

altho my elec, gas, lot rent, ins, internet nut is $650 I must make about $1100 to get by with min food and car lic, and other small stuff. Under $1490 qualifies me for food stamps which I dont get cause I know I will get to 1490 soon.

I am actually poverty level but I could live VERY large on 2K a month. A mere 24 K a year. So I am not spoiled and better times await. :)

If you haven't noticed yet I replied on page two..

Hi,

I dont know the whole situation but I hate it when people promise me something and dont do it. (Some might come back w a lame excuse) Giving false hope and wasting someone's time is a NO-NO! Words are cheap for some. It shows the lack of responsibility of the individuals.

Hope everything works out for you! :)

x

:thumbsup



Minn eee Soda as MP says. :)

No I hadnt. Thanks Scott let me read it. I got a bit lost here.

Thanks Scott. You did say i will definitely have an answer for you tomorrow. And I guess it took some doing but I got a response tomorrow.

I thought you were bsing me. I felt like the reason you left me on hold on ICQ for 4 hours was you seen I wasnt sending much traffic and were going to keep my recurrings. Then today when I could not contact you I thought you were blocking me.

So I lost it. I started to think you just never sent it in the first place as all the other NAM checks got through.

Sorry it went to this but you did say you would have an answer for me today. If you were going to be gone you should have said I'll have an answer for you Friday.

Anyhow thank you for your response. I will be looking for the check. If the other one comes should I throw it? Let me know.

I also emailed you and Eddie 3-4 days earlier with no response. So I started to think I was getting fucked. This could be avoided by responding to the email you list on your site within72 hours.

Edit: see below

I hadn't noticed your email from Tuesday, however we spoke Wednesday. Sometimes it can take 24 hours for a response depending but you can usually expect a reply same day. Regardless, I have your email now and I will get you all the info in the AM.

Thanks!

[email protected]

I usually do call but I got 31 mins on my cell and no landline anymore to save money. So I didnt want to.

Anyhow it is all settled now. Thanks for your help. Sorry I went to the boards but I fig if i didnt I would never get thru to you. Maybe I was wrong there.

Anyhow thanks again for your help and sorry for any probs. I know NAM has always been a good payer. I just feel when my traffic to you is low now that maybe you guys felt why pay him. Times are tight all over. All this just makes one go nuts. Thanks for understanding. :)

I am glad you are on the west coast. Not quite as late there. :)

I don't know Vjo, but it seems like he's been marked at multiple programs as fraud, so there might be something up?

In addition, the guy has a join date in 2002, so he has been in the industry at least since 2002 and maybe longer. How on earth is it possible to be broke?
If you were around in 2002 and are broke you did definitely something very wrong...

I skipped page 2, have busy day
paid or still unpaid?

Im hungry as hell. Having some tater tot hotdish. :)

To anyone I missed I love you and thanks for your support. Mr Maxwell I still want to respond to your post.

To the guy who gave me a lil boost this month. I love you most of all. I told him twice I was ok. He wrote and said check such and such tomorrow. I sent it. I will pay this person back someday.

He is a well known GFY member and we all can feel good these type of people exist anywhere in life much less right here.