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DamianJ 07-28-2011 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18310568)
Here is a screengrab of YouraCunt.com from when I owned it back in 2005 !

http://i.imgur.com/ULaVK.jpg

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DamianJ 07-28-2011 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18308227)
The publisher I was talking to offered a deal I wasn't happy with.

Were you not happy because it only existed in your head.

Why not post an email from the publisher with full headers so you can prove me wrong for calling you a liar, it will only take you a hot minute.

Caligari 07-28-2011 06:34 AM

Hey Paul,
i read the ebook as you have it now, and here are a few things.
1)I think newbie shooters will find some very valuable info in there. There are common sense aspects which are overlooked when scheduling and shooting and you've covered alot of those.
2)I'm sure you are aware of some grammatical errors in the book. There aren't many but there are some badly misplaced commas which kind of change the meaning of what you are saying, so i would fix those.
3)Photos and videos. Especially now it is imperative that shooters DO BOTH if they are selling content online or shooting exclusives. There are several BIG link sites who accept galleries/free sites and they will NOT accept vid grabs for stills. They want actual stills if you are submitting an image gallery. And a gazillion other reasons.
To repeat- shooters should take stills and video for all content.
4)Reflectors on hand. Don't know how much you get into reflectors but imo they can literally save you in a bind.
They are also very inexpensive.
http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/1...-reflector.htm

That's it for now, I think it's shaping up nicely.

Paul Markham 07-28-2011 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Django (Post 18313399)
I'd like to read it
Email: idraedizioni (at) gmail.com
thanks in advance

Sent.

Caligari will reply later, been sleeping for hours. I think I have a cold.

Damian can we play later, I feel like shit.

DamianJ 07-28-2011 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18313678)
Damian can we play later, I feel like shit.

Sure. You can make up an excuse for not posting the email with full headers whenever you like man.

www.twitter.com/fakepaulmarkham

:D

Lykos 07-28-2011 07:58 AM

I would like to read it,respect to what you did when most of ppl here weren't even born!

gideongallery 07-28-2011 08:12 AM

would be interested in seeing how this stacks up to rays course

i bought a long time ago and was disappointed (he mailed a floppy disk with text documents on it)

Paul Markham 07-28-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18313514)
Were you not happy because it only existed in your head.

Why not post an email from the publisher with full headers so you can prove me wrong for calling you a liar, it will only take you a hot minute.

I's very revealing the Damian thinks people only communicate via Email.

Maybe he can't afford a phone or to use it.

The publisher is someone I've known for maybe 15 years. He phoned me after we linked on FB.

Maybe Damian doesn't have friends.

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18313688)
Sure. You can make up an excuse for not posting the email with full headers whenever you like man.

www.twitter.com/fakepaulmarkham

:D

That fake Twitter account is about your level.

Should I post some of the quotes you make there?

Paul Markham 07-28-2011 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18313631)
Hey Paul,
i read the ebook as you have it now, and here are a few things.
1)I think newbie shooters will find some very valuable info in there. There are common sense aspects which are overlooked when scheduling and shooting and you've covered alot of those.

It's aimed at Newbies. Maybe a few experienced will find it interesting.

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2)I'm sure you are aware of some grammatical errors in the book. There aren't many but there are some badly misplaced commas which kind of change the meaning of what you are saying, so i would fix those.
Grammar of mine isn't a strong point. :1orglaugh

Need to get it proof read.

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3)Photos and videos. Especially now it is imperative that shooters DO BOTH if they are selling content online or shooting exclusives. There are several BIG link sites who accept galleries/free sites and they will NOT accept vid grabs for stills. They want actual stills if you are submitting an image gallery. And a gazillion other reasons.

To repeat- shooters should take stills and video for all content.
Need to read it again and make sure it covers both points properly. :thumbsup

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4)Reflectors on hand. Don't know how much you get into reflectors but imo they can literally save you in a bind.
They are also very inexpensive.http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/1...-reflector.htm
Thanks, need to get in some links to firms like Lastolite. Also tell people to take a few white sheets, spreading those over a wooden floor or highly covered carpet can solve color in balance. Good point and that's what I need others reading it show what I left out.

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That's it for now, I think it's shaping up nicely.
Thank you.

Caligari 07-28-2011 08:34 AM

Actually Paul I think that fake twitter account is technically or legally harassment.
I know its only the product of some worthless troll but you could do some screen grabs and contact twitter to have them remove it.

PromoterX 07-28-2011 08:38 AM

50 e-Books

Paul Markham 07-28-2011 08:40 AM

My email to Currently Sober with his comments and my replies.


Thanks for the comments, this is exactly what I need. Another POV.
Hopefully will get a few more.

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OK, well its obviously not finished, because it kinda drifts off into your personal notes at the end, but thats fine. You never said it was the finished article, so fair enough. I am also sure that you are aware that there are a few grammatical errors, but nothing a good proof read wont fix...
Yes not finished and the end wasn't touched. When the publisher offered me the deal I lost interest, not I've got some time will finish it. Probably during the winter, when it's cold. Grammar never was my strong point. LOL

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I also understand that it is aimed at 1st time shooters (Total Noobs) and as such, I cant really find anything wrong with it.
Correct, experienced shooters have built there way of working over years and are not likely to change.
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I'd have to say that a lot of the sections are things that you have posted here on GFY before, such as the 27 poses, and the advice on the girls periods etc, but thats OK cause most of the people who would be reading it, would be unaware of GFY, and therefore its new to them...
Yes it's articles I've posted over the years, I've probably shared what I know already.

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In essence, its not GREAT... But its not terrible either. It does however, IMHO, need a lot more 'Meat' in it, before its saleable...
Yes it needs beefing up without going on and on.

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Most of the stuff you discuss I know anyway, but only due to my own 20+ years of shooting experience. However, with that said, its still stuff that I LEARNED OVER TIME... and therefore would have been handy to have all in one place, for a beginner...
Hopefully this will save a few making the same mistakes we made. Warn them first. LOL

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Theres a couple of things I DON'T agree with, (Regarding the talking to the model section) but thats not down to protocol. Just not the way I would do them - But then I am not you, and what you could say, as a friendly looking older guy with a camera (Uncle Paul?) simply would not work for me...
I could simply get away with it, my strong point was my charm in the shoot and being able to say things others couldn't Even as a 40 year old I would say things to a girl that she would laugh at or take as flattery. If others said it she would walk out.

For instance.

"I'm actually a pervert and there's no film in the camera.?

When shooting a close up of a pussy. "Reminds me it's lunch time soon." Or just zoom in, look over the camera and say "Smile."

Mason got away with it in a different way, Colby was utter charm and Jack Harrison used to put on his foreign accent and flirt a lot. It was whether the girl really believed she wasn't safe or you were joking to make the work go better.

However it needs to be written better to explan it better. Being business like to a model, like you would to a secretary isn't going to work. IMO the girl needs to have her best coaxed out of her. XXX is a prime example of a shooter who can barely keep the girl awake or in the room.

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I also didn't like the sub heading of "Everything is up for grabs at a casting" - To me, that just sounds really pervy...
Will rephrase that. Wanted to express the shooter should have no pre conceived ideas of what will happen on a casting. The next Miss World might turn up or someone who looks more like her Dad. LOL Thanks will reword it.

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You include a simple form for the model to fill in - Pre Shoot - But don't include a sample model release and 2257 forms that can be printed off and used by the photographer... Perhaps add them in?
Yes.

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Finally, you list you 'Order' of things on the day of the shoot, which ends up with "paperwork' Then 'Pay the model'... While you are used to doing it this way, I would recommend that the paperwork (IDs Model Releases, HIV Test Scans etc) be done BEFORE you shoot...

I agree to the paying at the end, cause if you give them the money before you shoot, they loose incentive, however, for a new guy, it would make sense to get the paperwork done at the start. Just incase she doesn't have her IDs etc.... Cause if she doesn't, she will still want paying, and you wont wanna pay her, cause you cant guarantee you can sell it legally. But I am not trying to tell you how to suck eggs. I'm sure you know that already. I'm just suggesting that you tell a newbie to do it that way round.
We check IDs and flat bed scan them today or shoot them laying on the floor, then at the start of every scene we shoot the model holding her IDs. HIV tests are also checked before the shoot. Payment at the end, which might be 20 minutes after we start or the end of the day. That gives them incentive. Payment for the shoot is discussed with the girl at the time of booking. Need to make all that clearer.

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Hope you find the above to be constructive advice and opinions....
Yes. Exactly what I needed.

:2 cents:

This was very helpful. After some thought on the communication part I think it needs rewriting.

I need to get it right. I was able to get away with a lot of flirting, girls enjoy being flattered, when naked and doing sexy things they like it to be appreciated. What they don't like is it done in a way that scares or upsets them. A shooter who wants to be good needs, to develop his charm and work with models using it. Once it upsets the model, the day is over.

CyberHustler 07-28-2011 08:49 AM

Not me...

SallyRand 07-28-2011 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18308227)
It's about time I get back to it and now all the negatives are scanned I plan to edit one video a day and write some more and edit what I have.

What I'm going to do with it is try to sell it via some sites online. The publisher I was talking to offered a deal I wasn't happy with. Exclusivity with no promises of revenue.

Only non trolls are invited and those who shoot or wish to.

ICQ 213 327 873 or email me paul_eva at paulmakham dot com

I'd like to read it for sure. You have my Skype!

Thanks!

epitome 07-28-2011 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18313688)

You're the one that appears to have issues with some of the disgusting things you post on that fake Twitter.

Surprised GFY even lets you link to it and hasn't hahahahahahahahahahaha'd it yet.

Paul Markham 07-28-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18314038)
You're the one that appears to have issues with some of the disgusting things you post on that fake Twitter.

Surprised GFY even lets you link to it and hasn't hahahahahahahahahahaha'd it yet.

That's not me posting the Twitter account. It's Damian.

Will send you a copy Sally or who ever. :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 07-28-2011 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18313997)
I'd like to read it for sure. You have my Skype!

Thanks!

Seems I don't anymore, email me.

Agent 488 07-28-2011 10:23 AM

you suck. oh well. it is what it is.

Caligari 07-28-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18314156)
That's not me posting the Twitter account. It's Damian.

I think thats what he was saying...

CurrentlySober 07-28-2011 11:43 AM

One more though. Regarding the 'Model Communication' angle...

I understand what you are saying about joking that there is 'No Film in the camera' etc, and have no doubt that works for YOU...

Likewise, I feel confident that I too, could make a similar joke, and get away with it...

The same goes for the 'flirting angle'... HOWEVER...

Both you and I have a legit, verifiable history that can be checked up on... The person reading the e-book, and then booking his first model, does not have the same credibility...

Therefore, while the girl infront of your camera, or my camera, may well be new, or established, at least she knows the names of other models who have been there before her, and sees that the end product is going to be legitimately sold, alongside many other models doing similar shoots etc...

But the new guy - Well, I personally wouldn't recommend that he tries to flirt, or 'fool about' (Mentally, not physically) with the model...

Again, its all down to the individual, but I think that suggesting a brand new guy acts exactly the same way as a guy who has done shoots 100s of times, might not be the best approach for him to take... :2 cents:

DamianJ 07-28-2011 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18314188)
I think thats what he was saying...

Prove it

Cherry7 07-28-2011 12:59 PM

Please send to cherry AT cinemaerotique.com.

Thanks

Paul Markham 07-28-2011 01:29 PM

Sorry Epitome, please accept my apology, I read your post wrong.

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18314669)
Please send to cherry AT cinemaerotique.com.

Thanks

You are joking aren't you?

Damian, you're joking as well. If you had a pot to piss in I would of sued your ass to being penniless. You post stuff on the Twitter account that you dream up in your twisted mind. Why no posts about my dogs penis yet?

Nice to see you promoting a sponsor with leaks to 2 other processors. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1032076

Paul Markham 07-28-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18314405)
One more though. Regarding the 'Model Communication' angle...

I understand what you are saying about joking that there is 'No Film in the camera' etc, and have no doubt that works for YOU...

Likewise, I feel confident that I too, could make a similar joke, and get away with it...

The same goes for the 'flirting angle'... HOWEVER...

Both you and I have a legit, verifiable history that can be checked up on... The person reading the e-book, and then booking his first model, does not have the same credibility...

Therefore, while the girl infront of your camera, or my camera, may well be new, or established, at least she knows the names of other models who have been there before her, and sees that the end product is going to be legitimately sold, alongside many other models doing similar shoots etc...

But the new guy - Well, I personally wouldn't recommend that he tries to flirt, or 'fool about' (Mentally, not physically) with the model...

Again, its all down to the individual, but I think that suggesting a brand new guy acts exactly the same way as a guy who has done shoots 100s of times, might not be the best approach for him to take... :2 cents:

Yes I need to totally rework that section. A shooter's personality is what can make or kill a shoot.

Caligari 07-28-2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18314412)
Prove it

:1orglaugh prove what imbecile? that i think that's what he said?

or that it's you doing the infantile fake Paul Markham twitter page?

because if it's not you it's just another pathetic troll so who really gives a rat's ass.

of course as i mentioned to Paul that twitter page is harassment, so at the very least he could easily have it taken down and probably press charges.

whoever it is they fit the profile of low grade sociopath.

TheDoc 07-28-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18314966)
....and probably press charges.

Hahaha, press charges.

I can see it now, Obama, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and about 10,000 celebs all "pressing charges" against people talking shit about them.

Good luck with that one.

Va2k 07-28-2011 02:35 PM

Hell yea thanks Paul!!

Caligari 07-28-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18314977)
Hahaha, press charges.

I can see it now, Obama, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and about 10,000 celebs all "pressing charges" against people talking shit about them.

Good luck with that one.

oh really?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Damage...58269.html?x=0
http://www.blackbookmag.com/article/...r-430000/25109
http://www.defamationlawblog.com/tags/twitter/
http://tcattorney.typepad.com/digita...n-lawsuit.html

it all comes down to how good your attorney is:2 cents:

TheDoc 07-28-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18314779)
If you had a pot to piss in I would of sued your ass to being penniless.

And another lol....

It would all depend on if you could prove that twitter account damaged to your rep and actually cost you money, which isn't going to happen. Either way, the damages amount would be very tiny... not enough to cover your own costs.

As well, I highly doubt you have the 10k to cover the lawyer each month. Being that you couldn't sue him in your region, you would have to take it to a place you both do business, money wise, so you can get the money if you win. Which will cost some money to find, and lawyers aren't cheap.

Then the $20k court filing cost (each time), and the probably 10+ trips you would have to make for discoveries alone. And the bond you would have to put up, equal to the amount you're suing for, just encase you lose - which any lawyer will ask for in a case like this.

I've gone through 3 lawsuits, biggest one costing us 3 million dollars. You're barking up a tree your retirement plan can't cover.

TheDoc 07-28-2011 02:50 PM

Maybe you could point out in those articles where they sued fake satire accounts that say they're fake?

You might have a case IF the person doing it, owned a content company, making it actual damages.

How many people sue comedians for damages, because they poked fun at them and pretending to be them, even live on the stage with the people in the crowd sometimes, and actually win?

Caligari 07-28-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18315016)
Maybe you could point out in those articles where they sued fake satire accounts that say they're fake?

You might have a case IF the person doing it, owned a content company, making it actual damages.

How many people sue comedians for damages, because they poked fun at them and pretending to be them, even live on the stage with the people in the crowd sometimes, and actually win?

:1orglaugh owned a content company? how about the same line of work as in the adult entertainment industry??

would you like to wager how many lawyers would have a cakewalk with that one?

Cherry7 07-28-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18314779)

You are joking aren't you?

No, I enjoy reading, and I believe one can learn a lot from books.

TheDoc 07-28-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18315020)
:1orglaugh owned a content company? how about the same line of work as in the adult entertainment industry??

would you like to wager how many lawyers would have a cakewalk with that one?

Yes, because it has to do with satire. If both were a competing business, you would have something, otherwise, you have satire.

You can find lawyers that will sue for anything... but that doesn't mean you will win.

Caligari 07-28-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18315042)
Yes, because it has to do with satire. If both were a competing business, you would have something, otherwise, you have satire.

You can find lawyers that will sue for anything... but that doesn't mean you will win.

if the perp making this fakepaulmarkham page has something tangible to do with the adult industry, any good lawyer could make a "competing business" connection:2 cents:

TheDoc 07-28-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18315050)
if the perp making this fakepaulmarkham page has something tangible to do with the adult industry, any good lawyer could make a "competing business" connection:2 cents:

In the reverse, a half baked lawyer could easy prove how they aren't competing, before laughing his way out of the court on the satire claim.

Hello Saturday Night Live.... making fun of people in all types of way, cracking jokes about them for years, being wrong about it, even stupid things that can be viewed as lies... but in the end, satire.

Paul Markham 07-29-2011 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18314966)
:1orglaugh prove what imbecile? that i think that's what he said?

or that it's you doing the infantile fake Paul Markham twitter page?

because if it's not you it's just another pathetic troll so who really gives a rat's ass.

of course as i mentioned to Paul that twitter page is harassment, so at the very least he could easily have it taken down and probably press charges.

whoever it is they fit the profile of low grade sociopath.

Posted on B&B

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Originally Posted by Damian (Post 325486)
As a gesture of goodwill for this white flag you're waving I've taken down the fakepaulmarkham twitter.

Again, many thanks for alerting me. I've emailed them.

My reply.

Maybe if you had spent less time trolling. stalking and looking at my work for faults you might of spotted a program you market shaving affiliates.

Coincidence that I complained to Twitter recently about this account and named him as the author. :1orglaugh

Theo 07-29-2011 12:10 AM

Paul,your email didnt have any attachment or link :)

Paul Markham 07-29-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18315033)
No, I enjoy reading, and I believe one can learn a lot from books.

Then go read a book. My E Book would be of no use to you. It's for people starting out. People who want to build a relationship with a model to enable her to give a great real performance.

This is miles away from the porn you produce.

We have different views on porn. I think it's mostly about what's in front of the camera. The models performance, the amount of effort, emotion and reality she puts into it. You think it's mostly about photography, art, lighting, film making, editing skills.

You ask people who aren't trained actors to act and think by clever photography skills you can turn that into something pornographic or even erotic.

I think if the performers performance is pornographic and erotic the finished product is. It takes little skill to capture a truly erotic scene. It takes a lot of skill to get a model who didn't intent to do anything for real and only there for the money. To give a performance that will be real and only for her/his pleasure.

marlboroack 07-29-2011 12:57 AM

If you buy me an E-book I'll do anything you want. But i don't wanna sit here on my computer desk and read it. That would suck actually.

Print it, staple it together, sign the cover and send it to me. I'll read it all. E-mail me Mark, i think it would be very interesting.

Paul Markham 07-29-2011 01:06 AM

Sent to Fungus and resent to Theo.


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