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Cherry7 07-29-2011 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18315988)
Then go read a book. My E Book would be of no use to you. It's for people starting out. People who want to build a relationship with a model to enable her to give a great real performance.

This is miles away from the porn you produce.

We have different views on porn. I think it's mostly about what's in front of the camera. The models performance, the amount of effort, emotion and reality she puts into it. You think it's mostly about photography, art, lighting, film making, editing skills.

You ask people who aren't trained actors to act and think by clever photography skills you can turn that into something pornographic or even erotic.

I think if the performers performance is pornographic and erotic the finished product is. It takes little skill to capture a truly erotic scene. It takes a lot of skill to get a model who didn't intent to do anything for real and only there for the money. To give a performance that will be real and only for her/his pleasure.



So it is a book for people who no nothing, anybody that could point out your errors can't see it.

When you criticise others you are always saying them what technical faults they have, even those these are only technical faults in your narrow world.

So there it is - if you got a copy Paul Markham thinks you know nothing and are not a threat.

lazycash 07-29-2011 02:27 AM

Nice read, thanks. I really like the chapter on using black socks for light deflection.

Paul Markham 07-29-2011 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18316140)
Nice read, thanks. I really like the chapter on using black socks for light deflection.

Yes that is essential advice. I warn people also of the dangers of using red socks and yellow socks. It also helps if the lighting guy, sound man, cameraman and director all have matching black socks. :1orglaugh

The editor can of course wear any color he wishes. However no socks and sandals is not recommended. :1orglaugh

CurrentlySober 07-29-2011 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18316140)
I really like the chapter on using black socks for light deification.

Edited for personal preference. I prefer toilet roll, (2 Ply) but if you want to take a quick poo, and just use socks... Who am I to argue? :thumbsup

BittieBucks 07-29-2011 04:03 AM

Yay...
 
This is inspired me to write a E Book... I will post my first video today some time... hope you all enjoy :winkwink:

Cherry7 07-29-2011 05:03 AM

When I asked him why he didn't hire a good cameraman and sound recordist Paul Markham said..


"You don't understand the style of porn I shot or shoot. Having a crew there would be the killing of my style. "

But for the porn wannabees ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18316166)
It also helps if the lighting guy, sound man, cameraman and director all have matching black socks.

So the crew will kill the Markhim magic....

or was it he just wanted to take all the money and was not interested in showing us how it should be done.


Black socks - this book sounds great - a real laugh, won't someone post it here ?

When do they go on sale ?

Paul Markham 07-29-2011 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18316304)
When I asked him why he didn't hire a good cameraman and sound recordist Paul Markham said..

"You don't understand the style of porn I shot or shoot. Having a crew there would be the killing of my style. "

But for the porn wannabees ...

So the crew will kill the Markhim magic....

or was it he just wanted to take all the money and was not interested in showing us how it should be done.

Black socks - this book sounds great - a real laugh, won't someone post it here ?

When do they go on sale ?

Comedy isn't your strong point either.

ezgirl 07-29-2011 06:11 AM

ebook
 
I'd be interested in looking at your ebook. My email: ezgirlproducer at yahoo.com

Regarding paperwork: After booking the model I send a full page "SHOOT SPECS" by email to the model or agent. It has everything on it from a description of the assignment, pay and wardrobe to how I want the toe nails to look. Even so, I am astonished at how many agents (especially agents) and models don't bother to read it. Paperwork is done before the shoot, no exceptions. After the model signs everything I ask "How much are we paying you today and what are you doing?" We don't proceed one inch further until pay and assignment are clearly understood. Payment is always made in cash at the end of the shoot.

Looking forward to reading it.

CurrentlySober 07-29-2011 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18313491)
*you're



8char

Wasn't available... :2 cents:

Caligari 07-29-2011 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18315976)
Posted on B&B

My reply.

Maybe if you had spent less time trolling. stalking and looking at my work for faults you might of spotted a program you market shaving affiliates.

Coincidence that I complained to Twitter recently about this account and named him as the author. :1orglaugh

I looked on that board. So Damian J had fake website(s) with your name on it as well...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian - To further show my gratitude on us burying the hatchet, I've pointed paulmarkhamteens.co.uk to your .com
Is this yet another one? http://www.markhamteens.com/

Paul, as I'm sure you are doing I would make screen caps/save these pages to have on file, because if this troll has made twitter pages and websites to harass you he is capable of doing more than that...

Wow, just Wow...

Agent 488 07-29-2011 09:21 AM

got it off rapidshare. sucks. don't bother.

mafia_man 07-29-2011 09:37 AM

Links pulled.

Goodluck Big P.

Django 07-30-2011 10:55 PM

Very nice read. i will read your book.
any funny, true embarrassing stories? i'd like to hear some of them

Paul Markham 07-31-2011 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezgirl (Post 18316393)
I'd be interested in looking at your ebook. My email: ezgirlproducer at yahoo.com

Regarding paperwork: After booking the model I send a full page "SHOOT SPECS" by email to the model or agent. It has everything on it from a description of the assignment, pay and wardrobe to how I want the toe nails to look. Even so, I am astonished at how many agents (especially agents) and models don't bother to read it. Paperwork is done before the shoot, no exceptions. After the model signs everything I ask "How much are we paying you today and what are you doing?" We don't proceed one inch further until pay and assignment are clearly understood. Payment is always made in cash at the end of the shoot.

Looking forward to reading it.

E Book sent.

Had the same problem with agents. A lot of them are clueless. If they couldn't work right, I didn't use them. We were always able to find girls ourselves without agents and insisted any agent who wanted to send us a girl sent her to a casting first.

Once had a casting arranged by an agent at a friends studio in Prague. She arranged for around 25 girls to turn up. She got them to read the script I prepared and fill in our form telling who she is, size, availability and what she will do. On every single one she made the girls leave their contact details off. When we asked her to book 3 of the girls from the casting, she never bothered. So we found out their phone numbers and went direct. When she billed us for commission, she was told where to shove the bill.

Had some good ones and some bad ones. :) :( Name of the game

Shooters and the ones with the money, they call the tune. Once you let agents and models dictate the quality of the content dives.

Paul Markham 07-31-2011 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18316689)
I looked on that board. So Damian J had fake website(s) with your name on it as well...

Is this yet another one? http://www.markhamteens.com/

The Whois

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Contact:
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Domain name: markhamteens.com

Registrant Contact:
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Fax:
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So not even got the guts to reveal a name. I suspect it's a nick called Geezer, who might be BJlover here. They have the same troll characteristics.

Quote:

Paul, as I'm sure you are doing I would make screen caps/save these pages to have on file, because if this troll has made twitter pages and websites to harass you he is capable of doing more than that...

Wow, just Wow...
http://whois.domaintools.com/paulmarkhamteens.co.uk is the whois for www.paulmarkhamteens.co.uk which now redirects to our site. This Whois Damian has the guts to show he owns it.

http://twitter.com/fakepaulmarkham# has now been removed. I complained about it and Damian said he took it down himself. It was full of libel about me liking young children and though he never used the word, his description of me made me out to be a pedophile.

Like some of his posts here about me buying a dog to attract children. He even posted, on B&B, a link to Youtube on an article about a pedophile who stole a puppy to attract children. Stupid really because anyone would know Boxers grow fast and though only 5 months now is scary to most kids. Too big and boisterous.

I would of sued him into bankruptcy if he had any money.

DamianJ 07-31-2011 04:26 AM

I'll transfer the domain to you paul if you email me your go daddy account details. As I said, seeing as you have been so very nice to me lately, all the old pointless internet arguing is stopping.

I really appreciate you helping me out, so all nastiness has stopped.

I'd even say your little word document would be useful for a newb once it's been finished, edited (take out the bit showing you wrote it four years ago!) and formatted. No one would buy it, but to give it away and have adverts in it for your content would be good. It needs an ending too. Reads like you got bored half way through and it just peters off.

Every example, every point you make, should be one of your pics with a link of where to buy it.

We both know you'd never sell it, but to use it as a marketing vehicle to sell your content would be good.

I'll even help you and do the layout for free.

Just to show the hatchet is well and truly buried.


All the best

Damian

Paul Markham 07-31-2011 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18319695)
I'll transfer the domain to you paul if you email me your go daddy account details. As I said, seeing as you have been so very nice to me lately, all the old pointless internet arguing is stopping.

I really appreciate you helping me out, so all nastiness has stopped.

I'd even say your little word document would be useful for a newb once it's been finished, edited (take out the bit showing you wrote it four years ago!) and formatted. No one would buy it, but to give it away and have adverts in it for your content would be good. It needs an ending too. Reads like you got bored half way through and it just peters off.

Every example, every point you make, should be one of your pics with a link of where to buy it.

We both know you'd never sell it, but to use it as a marketing vehicle to sell your content would be good.

I'll even help you and do the layout for free.

Just to show the hatchet is well and truly buried.


All the best

Damian

To bury the hatchet I would need a full written apology for insinuating I'm a pedophile, that Eva is a bought wife or looks like a man, snipes at our content or our shooting ability, the allegations that you learned something about why an employee quit her job and I had to leave England for any other than financial reasons.

An apology for this video and it's removal. https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17914848&postcount=1

An apology for this post https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18119790&postcount=189

An apology for this post https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17423817&postcount=136 which was a lie.

An apology for this post https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17873308&postcount=75 lying again.

An apology for this post https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18151408&postcount=52

An apology for this post https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18152523&postcount=55

An apology for this post https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18162428&postcount=475

An apology for this post https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18178754&postcount=24

In fact all these posts contain lies.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/eric.jpg

Proving you lie.

Strange how you screamed about me sucking up to Manwin because they have Tubes and you were promoting a site that leaked traffic for affiliates on the join page. some call that shaving, others call it stealing. What do you think?

Damian IMO you're a pretty low person. To have a go at Eva, accuse me of faking my cancer, of going after children and a lot of other things. All I ever said was where you live wasn't very nice, that you're single, that you're a magician as a side line and that IMO your marketing of yourself is very flawed. So I don't think you're very good at what you do or earned a lot of money.

The post on B&B wasn't to help you, it was to show 3wayscash was shaving.

TheDoc 07-31-2011 05:17 AM

If you two fuck, please film it.

ottopottomouse 07-31-2011 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18319714)
If you two fuck, please get someone else to film it.

:upsidedow

DamianJ 07-31-2011 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18319709)
The post on B&B wasn't to help you, it was to show 3wayscash was shaving.

Oh come on Paul, there's no way you'd do something as nice as that with malice! Not you!

So I take it as your apology for your years of libel, and now we can move on.

The board is tired of our pointless arguing about nothing Paul. We're never going to change each other's minds, are we?

So, I made a deal that every time I felt like arguing pointlessly with you, I will do a blog post or something useful with the time. It's been awesome. Imagine how many posts I wanted to make about your Mofo's film! I've not even commented. Done 19 blog posts instead!

So, all in all, you've helped me with a tech issue one of my client's had that's now been fixed and you've increased my productivity. For that I thank you.

All my anger towards you is now gone.

I've started yoga and realised I waste far too much time and energy with you when I could be doing something good.

I meant it about formatting the word doc for you. Just let me know.

All the best,

Damian

DamianJ 07-31-2011 05:46 AM

One hundred hugs for Paul

Caligari 07-31-2011 06:52 AM

Paul, I've sent you an email about a U.S. based lawyer I've used before who also handles stalking/cyber stalking/online defamation cases.
Also you will find a directory of UK based lawyers who do the same thing.

As I said before save as much evidence as you can.

GFY mods- if you've read the posts in this thread you should be aware that this situation has gone beyond mere trolling.

TheDoc 07-31-2011 07:44 AM

This legal stuff has me loling like no other..... Cali, I'm not sure if you've been paying attention, but this isn't anything new. If you showed a lawyer the years of b.s. that has been happening between these two, they wouldn't touch this case, for all the money in the world.

These two knuckleheads have been going at it for a long while now, baseless attacks all over the place, personal life crap posted about each, some pretty raw shit both directions. And.... it was funny, I saw others laugh, it has satire spewing out all over and others were involved as well, in all directions... this is way past your little discovery in this thread.

Agent 488 07-31-2011 07:50 AM

lol like paul is innocent himself.

if you locked up all the webmasters who got into a piss with paul the brit adult webmaster community would be gone overnight.

don't be such a baby.

xholly 07-31-2011 07:51 AM

I want Damians scene review!

Caligari 07-31-2011 08:03 AM

You people are truly amazing.
Granted you probably don't like Paul for one reason or another but I've never seen him put up a fake twitter page, website(s) etc with the purpose of defaming another individual.

What you refuse to see is the difference between taking a piss on a board and actually cyber stalking/harassing an individual.

Incredible.

TheDoc 07-31-2011 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18319837)
You people are truly amazing.
Granted you probably don't like Paul for one reason or another but I've never seen him put up a fake twitter page, website(s) etc with the purpose of defaming another individual.

What you refuse to see is the difference between taking a piss on a board and actually cyber stalking/harassing an individual.

Incredible.

I don't know Paul, so I don't dislike him, I just don't agree with what he says. I see this for what it is; A history of events long enough running that it could build past even the point you see today, and continue on, without either or anyone being banned, screams the attacks, harassment, and stupidity came in at every direction, and was not as one-sided as you may think.

Both cyber stalked each other, in various ways... and both harassed the hell out of each other, and it had it's funny points - it truly did, but mostly it was filled with equal amount of stupidity.

You're refusing to accept that a history surrounds what you see today.... so it balances out either way.

Paul Markham 07-31-2011 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18319895)
I don't know Paul, so I don't dislike him, I just don't agree with what he says. I see this for what it is; A history of events long enough running that it could build past even the point you see today, and continue on, without either or anyone being banned, screams the attacks, harassment, and stupidity came in at every direction, and was not as one-sided as you may think.

Both cyber stalked each other, in various ways... and both harassed the hell out of each other, and it had it's funny points - it truly did, but mostly it was filled with equal amount of stupidity.

You're refusing to accept that a history surrounds what you see today.... so it balances out either way.

Did I ever insinuate Damian was a pedophile?

Did I ever carry the argument to his family and insult them?

Did I ever state I had information that made an employee quit from him or was so bad it would embarrass me?

I DID say he lived in a rented fault, that he is a part time magician, that his marketing of himself is poor, that his knowledge of porn is poor and that he seems to favor piracy. He's changed his track on that.

Is any of that untrue?

You and I disagreeing is good. I believe in the product first and marketing second. You believe in it the other way around. On this we will never agree. Nothing wrong in that.

kaori 07-31-2011 10:29 AM

Back to your book...
not sure what it looks like, but nobody likes a 'text book'.
Make sure you include some interesting anecdotes, some 'things gone wrong', and some 'behind the scenes' type discussions....
descriptions not just of when everything went right, but when you screwed it up horribly and how you learned from it...

Paul Markham 07-31-2011 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaori (Post 18320056)
Back to your book...
not sure what it looks like, but nobody likes a 'text book'.
Make sure you include some interesting anecdotes, some 'things gone wrong', and some 'behind the scenes' type discussions....
descriptions not just of when everything went right, but when you screwed it up horribly and how you learned from it...

Good idea, won't include everything as that might make a nice follow up "My life in porn." :1orglaugh

Thanks for the tip. :thumbsup

nyasswebsite 07-31-2011 02:16 PM

Wow... A lot of back and forth since I last seen the thread. I feel me talking about the e-book at hand would be going off topic now. lmao. Anyway...

I have not read all of it but from what I see it has the makings to be pretty good! Just some suggestions...

1) I know it’s not complete but it really should be proofread. Part of it was an eyesore to read. lol. I’m sure once you have it in e-book format you will have worked that out.

2) Your section about the 29 poses is a great idea for the eBook. To make it better I say you use a girl or two from your website to demonstrate all positions for each one mentioned.

3) Although you mention things like umbrella, extra battery, snacks for the set, I think you should run with that idea and get more in depth. For example a chapter or sub chapter called "Things you should have on set to make the model more comfortable" and you can include things like Anal douche, vaginal wipes, lube, baby wipes, razors, shaving cream, disposable toothbrushes (Colgate wisp), liquid soap, body puff (you do want a female clean before filming), etc etc etc. Its not going to break the bank or put a real dent in the budget, things I’m talking about would not even total $100 if bargain shopped and would make for a pleasant experience. To even bank from it I say you include links in you ebook to these products and link up with an affiliate like drugstore.com, walmart, riteaid, wal greens, etc.

Pretty good stuff!

Cherry7 07-31-2011 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18319629)
E Book sent.

Had the same problem with agents. A lot of them are clueless. If they couldn't work right, I didn't use them. We were always able to find girls ourselves without agents and insisted any agent who wanted to send us a girl sent her to a casting first.

Once had a casting arranged by an agent at a friends studio in Prague. She arranged for around 25 girls to turn up. She got them to read the script I prepared and fill in our form telling who she is, size, availability and what she will do. On every single one she made the girls leave their contact details off. When we asked her to book 3 of the girls from the casting, she never bothered. So we found out their phone numbers and went direct. When she billed us for commission, she was told where to shove the bill.

Had some good ones and some bad ones. :) :( Name of the game

Shooters and the ones with the money, they call the tune. Once you let agents and models dictate the quality of the content dives.


More from the master of nonsense.

If you are planning a serious shoot and are paying for a crew. Can you risk the models not turning up on the day?

A good agent earns every bit of the 20%, the work that goes into getting models to audition, in finding models in the first place, and making sure they turn up for work.

Not only that a good agent suggest good models for the project, explains the project to the models. Helps with hotels, locations, crew and extras.

One of the reasons Prague and Budapest are great places to work are because of the great agencies there.

One of the problems with the UK is there is no agency. It is just pot luck if a UK models decides to turn up.

Does not surprise me that you cheated the agent out of her/his money, even after getting you 25 models to an audition. After all you took $2500 for shooting a one shot piece of "average for you" work.

Seems like these e-book is a recipe for committing professional suicide.

Like the joke about the girls reading a script...you made something that was planned with a script?

Not just

" You givez me ze bigest Orgasmz !"

Paul Markham 07-31-2011 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyasswebsite (Post 18320297)
Wow... A lot of back and forth since I last seen the thread. I feel me talking about the e-book at hand would be going off topic now. lmao. Anyway...

I have not read all of it but from what I see it has the makings to be pretty good! Just some suggestions...

1) I know it’s not complete but it really should be proofread. Part of it was an eyesore to read. lol. I’m sure once you have it in e-book format you will have worked that out.

2) Your section about the 29 poses is a great idea for the eBook. To make it better I say you use a girl or two from your website to demonstrate all positions for each one mentioned.

3) Although you mention things like umbrella, extra battery, snacks for the set, I think you should run with that idea and get more in depth. For example a chapter or sub chapter called "Things you should have on set to make the model more comfortable" and you can include things like Anal douche, vaginal wipes, lube, baby wipes, razors, shaving cream, disposable toothbrushes (Colgate wisp), liquid soap, body puff (you do want a female clean before filming), etc etc etc. Its not going to break the bank or put a real dent in the budget, things I’m talking about would not even total $100 if bargain shopped and would make for a pleasant experience. To even bank from it I say you include links in you ebook to these products and link up with an affiliate like drugstore.com, walmart, riteaid, wal greens, etc.

Pretty good stuff!

Thanks for the feed back. Replied to your email. going to get all the feed back and then sit down and finish this project.

I'm putting Cherry, Damian, Theking and a few others on ignore. They offer little but pointless sniping so no need to read them.

Others can discuss things with the trolls.

Cherry7 08-01-2011 03:31 AM

Last time you put me on ignore it was for 20 minutes...

Lets hope this time you can make it last a little longer.

Cherry7 08-01-2011 04:32 AM

Help for Paul Markham

BASIC

http://vimeo.com/videoschool/lesson/...hooting-basics

LIGHTING
http://vimeo.com/videoschool/lesson/44/3-point-lighting

SOUND

http://vimeo.com/videoschool/lesson/...ing-good-sound


That should get you started.

Emma 08-01-2011 04:36 AM

Porn is dead, long live Twitter and Facebook!

Django 08-05-2011 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18321011)

Thanks for the postbook :winkwink:

CaptainHowdy 08-05-2011 07:05 AM

This kind of childish disputes are smearing the male species, I demand satisfaction!

Paul Markham 08-05-2011 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Django (Post 18333161)
Thanks for the postbook :winkwink:

The difference between Cherry and I is.

He thinks the hard part is learning to use the camera, lighting and editing.

I think that's easier than learning how to pick models, manage models, direct models, know you're niche, etc.

With todays cameras, lights and edit suites being so simple to use and that I was able to master them 25 years ago.

The abundant demand for teens, amateur, gonzo, ex GF, and other low production porn. The massive decline in demand for high production porn.

The competition at the low production end of the market.

And models being harder to mange today, plus being humans they're all different. You can pick one blond and she will need totally different handling to the next.

Different cameras of the same model are all the same even most cameras are all fairly similar.

I think I'm right.

Learning to use a camera, lights and editing suite well enough to shoot porn is pretty simple. Must be I did it. Learning how to use a model to shoot porn isn't so easy. Not if you want to do good porn.

Now he can ridicule me again and provide no proof he has a clue. :thumbsup

He even posts how easy it is to learn these things. Can he find videos on how to control porn models?

Cherry your 2257 info is wrong, the address is spelt wrong.

Cherry7 08-05-2011 07:43 AM

PAUL MARKHAM says
"The difference between Cherry and I is.
He thinks the hard part is learning to use the camera, lighting and editing.
I think that's easier than learning how to pick models, manage models, direct models, know you're niche, etc."

WRONG...

I say easy or hard, they are all thing you need to learn. You do not believe in Agents, but good agent will help you find excellent models to work with.

PAUL MARKHAM says

"With todays cameras, lights and edit suites being so simple to use and that I was able to master them 25 years ago"

WRONG

You never learned how to use a camera , or to light or to edit, never mind "master" them.

Hence you think the alternative job for you is wedding photography. If you had mastered those skills you could be filming for HBO, or doing photography for the dozens of mens mags.

PAUL MARKHAM says

"models being harder to mange today"

I SAY

I have found the models we work with helpful, friendly and very talented. Often with difficult backgrounds but with lots of potential.


I posted some links on how to get started. To help Paul learn the most basic skills that he lacks. Then he can go on to be creative, Which means for example instead of lighting every scene with flat shadow-less light , the scene would be lit to create an atmosphere to add to the scene. The scene would be shot with "shots" so that an editor can make the scene more dramatic and exciting, capturing the important moments in CU and reaction shots. The recordest would not only get a good live sound track, but also wild tracks of breathing , sex and anything else the editor could use to build up a complex sound mix.


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