I'm sorry but if you are charging $500 for that design or any free site or blog design then feel lucky cause that work you showed was a $50 job..

I've paid $750 for paysite designs and a grand for other work so I'm not a cheapskate but I'm sorry your work you have shown or examples of other blogs you like are not worth $500.. Like someone said blogs don't need to be custom designed to make them money.. a free template could make them more than a $200 designed blog cause it's about the content and the paysite tours that they are linking..

If you want to make $500 for your work maybe you should look into doing more paysites cause I have NEVER seen a blog design I would be willing to pay $500 for unless they were going to blog for me too for 3 mos

The OP's so called design certainly shows that he has no clue when it comes to getting conversions. A pretty design, it's not even really that, isn't what cuts it.

Edit. I reckon it's a $25 - $30 design.

Meta,

take it easy fella.

Surely once you aspired to greater heights but lacked the skill.

I myself definitely don't consider the one example listed anywhere close to $500, but this is what he wanted, input.

I can see some potential, but it definitely needs to get cleaner.

What say you list some more examples of your work for us to judge.

thanx a lot, but my services are VERY affordable :)

and what about those who work in adult and mainstream? how would we fit in your little box of pre-molded concepts?

and what about the designers working in mainstream that charge 10 bucks a design? How amazing are they?

We're on the verge of launching some ground breaking multi media script that doesn't exist in adult or mainstream and we're launching it for both markets, with adult as focus. Then where does that place us?

Between our mainstream clients there are political parties, sports personalities and even 2 national governments... and believe me, I still didn't find the gold rush and have to work every day. But... shouldn't I be mega-rich by now?

So, I've never claimed to be the best at anything, as a matter of fact I admitted this need to do and know about everything has taken its toll, but I'm sure there's a lot of talented people in this industry, and I know of many who changed to mainstream. And many of us are still here for different reasons, one of them being: it's where the money is!

I don't know, maybe YOU are the one with no talent and think everyone else is like you, while others are making the money that ACCORDING TO YOU doesn't exist in this business :helpme

but hey, you know it all, so why bother in explaining you things that are pretty obvious to most mortals? :)

This is exactly why i left the corporate design world and moved into adult, i got sick and tired of 'my cousin's sisters nieces boyfriends mate has just completed a web design course, he said he can do it for £150'

I couldn't scrap around any longer for shitty £500 jobs when we were delivering award winning material, it was just a natural progression.

My 2cents? Seriously...

If I want a banner or a DVD box cover or something designed for me, I personally have the idea in my mind, for what I want it to look like.

I *could* do it myself, but I want a professional finish to it...

So for me, its important that the designer I choose can take what is in my minds eye, and realize it for me to the nearest detail...

I am not really looking for input from the designer - I already know what I want.... So how can I explain it?

I usually do scribbles on paper and scan them in and send them over. Provided the guy can give me what I want, to MY specs... I dont care about price...

Anyway, I have found 'my guy' who can do this, and will continue to use him, whenever I want my ideas put on the screen...

Who is he? THIS GUY..

Thanks Craig :thumbsup

this is press 75s side blog theme dressed up a little with different colors etc http://www.press75.com/themes/side-blog-theme-demo/
now carry on thread closed....

A) I'm not your buddy
B) you're not a designer
C) I only respect people who deserve it

walk into any sports GM office as an amateur player and talk to him like you know how to run his business.

You see you're the amateur I'm the GM. You respect me like you said. that is the first step in understanding your place. :2 cents:

I forgot to tell you that I love the name of this board! Go Fuck Yourself.

I know where the free transform and stroke tools are located too! Look at me immma designer!

I've been running a mainstream online design agency for 4 years now on www.bysoigne.com - all I do is design, I have 0 developing skills. I outsource everything to my go-to developers.

People pay us really good money, because its just like some people mentioned earlier, selling yourself and your products is a huge part of the game. BTW harvey, none of this is in reply to your quote, just that little bit at the top ;)

If you get into the design world, set a reputation for yourself. Mouth to mouth is THE way to reel in client after client (as long as you deliver quality results ofcourse). When you send people a quote, always send them a price you'd wish they'd say yes to and start negotiating from there. I wouldn't bother much with blogs, unless they're part of a bigger project.

Fact: If you design for adult... you're a whore, you're not very smart and you're a shitty business person. You are designing for people who are going to only pay 20% or so of what a mainstream company will pay. Also, you are designing/working for the worst degenerates, most unprofessional people and they are usually fucking broke to begin with... who want everything for nothing and will all almost always be gone in 6 months (i.e. not become long term clients, i.e. not refer business who becomes long term clients).

All this talk about how to do business is idiotic. Everyone knows that the vast majority of people in this biz and even on this board are broke ass morons. If you're here trying to drum up business, its because you aren't very bright and you suck at business. Even the largest programs are paying 1/2 of what a regular mainstream company would pay. Mainstream is an unlimited market - porn has a decreasing number of successful companies with money to spend.

This is why few designers can even make any kind of living designing for adult, why they come and go very quickly and why the vast majority, even those with a lot of talent will not last longer than the typical idiot who jumps into this biz because he likes naked girls.

Paul, that's not quite true - the same rule would go for the directors who shoots porn. According your words, such directors are not great - because they don't do feature movies, but shoot dicks and vaginas instead of dramas and action movies. What about Jess Franco and Joe D'Amato ?

I'd say - it's a matter of choice - you can do porn or mainstream.
How to consider someone as great ? In my opinion the greatness comes with the purchases and money.

My conclusion is - the things would be more easy if your hobby is your job - and thus the things are easy. You /not you in person, but anyone/ - so love porn and you know there's money in it - so you shoot porn. Easy - for you, happy clients. But easy don't mean your job should be cheap.

Pussy Lover, the best approach is to "eat everything" - in other words - do both mainstream /if someone like what you do/ ,and adult - there will be clients who would see talent and probably who will pay you the money you want.

Every train has it's own passengers.

Good luck getting anywhere near $500 for that...

Then you will never gain anyone's true respect. I for one think you are a bumbling idiot hiding behind a keyboard. You're no different than that moron that ran epiccash. Except he actually made big money before he lost it all.

"Signature escort" ...

LOL to funny loser go back to creating $40 blogs.

Just because i dont care about complete losers like yourself or whiny losers like the thread starter does not mean i dont have respect.

fact is i could care less about people who do not respect me. i wouldnt be doing business with those people in the first place. you seem to care about what other people think and what other people do. that is why you are a loser blog creator whoring himself up.

come talk to me when you make computers your full time job and not on the side for beer money. "respect" :1orglaugh to funny. loser.