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BFT3K 08-03-2011 09:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18330309)
If I'm reading this right the dollar has lost 3% of it's value in one year?
Yes, that, and you should probably buy a shotgun, and stock up on moist towelettes.

dyna mo 08-03-2011 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18330303)
I'm pretty good with a 30-06 deer rifle but nothing beats a good shotgun and rifled slugs are pretty accurate to 50 yards.

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you will survive an additional 3-4 minutes then. :upsidedow

dyna mo 08-03-2011 09:10 PM
1st RULE: You do not talk about your survival strategy.

2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about your survival strategy.

Choker 08-03-2011 09:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 18330257)
planing on getting a dozen of these
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct536.aspx
That is badd ass

L-Pink 08-03-2011 09:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18330347)
1st RULE: You do not talk about your survival strategy.

2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about your survival strategy.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh I'll share my water with you, no need to stalk me?

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sandman! 08-03-2011 09:24 PM
you can pick up cheap ak's for around $500 each all over.

i live in an area where ak's are banned so i dont own any but if you want cheap and reliable nothing will beat a ak :)

here is a good deal on a ak http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct765.aspx



Quote:
Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18330320)

sandman! 08-03-2011 09:25 PM
i allready have 1 with a adjustable stock pistol grip and a 20 round drum for it :)


Quote:
Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18330352)
That is badd ass

Anthony 08-03-2011 09:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18330287)
you shotgunners better start thinking longer range firepower because by the time the massive hoard gets into shotgunnin distance, we are going to roll right over you and on to your precious stockpile of shit.

:)
QFT. You don't get firearms that have short range. Pipe Crew knows what's up, get something that will reach out and touch someone before they can touch you. 100 Yards min. Which is no problem for any AR 15.

Shot guns and handguns are secondary, for close quarter fighting. If they get that close, you've fucked up.

And for the guy who had to put his 2 cents in about the heart being in the middle, the point of shooting in a group is to show skill. Which that close ass group showed well. .223 bounces like a motherfucker, and the hydrostatic shock alone would fuck your world up if not outright killing you. But these are all things people who shoot and train for SHTF scenarios know.

jollyperv 08-03-2011 09:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 18330257)
planing on getting a dozen of these
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct536.aspx
Fucking awesome site...if I didn't live in NYC I'd blow so much god damn money on there

that .22 mp5 would be fun as fuck...under $500

Anthony 08-03-2011 09:55 PM
If you really want to get ready for the SHTF scenario. Read this blog kept by a guy during the Argentina meltdown. Should be read by EVERYONE.

http://when-shtf.blogspot.com/2010/1...-collapse.html

No need to thank me, just read it, and be ready if it ever happens.

Choker 08-03-2011 10:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 18330361)
you can pick up cheap ak's for around $500 each all over.

i live in an area where ak's are banned so i dont own any but if you want cheap and reliable nothing will beat a ak :)

here is a good deal on a ak http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct765.aspx
Awesome prices on that site. There's a gun show here this weekend I think I might go there. Question for anyone in Florida here, if you go to a gun show do you have to do the criminal background check for every purchase at each dealers booth or is there a way to get one done at the show then buy whatever you want?

The Porn Nerd 08-03-2011 10:23 PM
I'm preparing for YOUR financial meltdown Choker - oh wait, "Choker Traffic since 2000".
Nevermind.

Get some cash and have it "on hand" is all I can advise. That, and lots of canned foods.

vdbucks 08-03-2011 10:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18330397)
And for the guy who had to put his 2 cents in about the heart being in the middle, the point of shooting in a group is to show skill. Which that close ass group showed well. .223 bounces like a motherfucker, and the hydrostatic shock alone would fuck your world up if not outright killing you. But these are all things people who shoot and train for SHTF scenarios know.
Well, not to be a dick but that shot grouping is pretty bad for only 30 yards on iron sights. On a 300m target with iron sights, I'd say you'd miss a good 60% of the time.

Choker 08-03-2011 10:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18330434)
I'm preparing for YOUR financial meltdown Choker - oh wait, "Choker Traffic since 2000".
Nevermind.

Get some cash and have it "on hand" is all I can advise. That, and lots of canned foods.
Well cash looses 3% of its value yearly according to that graph. While this thread is entertaining, it went a different direction. What are you guys putting your money in? Silver and gold in my opinion is too risky at this point in time.

vdbucks 08-03-2011 10:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18330451)
Well cash looses 3% of its value yearly according to that graph. While this thread is entertaining, it went a different direction. What are you guys putting your money in? Silver and gold in my opinion is too risky at this point in time.
IMHO.. if you're going to put money into anything for a shit hits the fan scenario, put it into consumables. Especially food.

Doesn't matter how much gold you have if the shit does hit the fan. Those with the most means to survive (food, shelter, water), and good self protection are going to be the ones who survive. The guy with all the gold will be one of the first to go...

Emil 08-04-2011 12:03 AM
I'm selling of my stocks and bonds and put the money into gold and silver.

L-Pink 08-04-2011 12:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18330407)
If you really want to get ready for the SHTF scenario. Read this blog kept by a guy during the Argentina meltdown. Should be read by EVERYONE.

http://when-shtf.blogspot.com/2010/1...-collapse.html

No need to thank me, just read it, and be ready if it ever happens.
WoW ...... what a read.


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Vendzilla 08-04-2011 12:11 AM
I think it's not how many guns, its the amount of ammo that's important

CYF 08-04-2011 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18330407)
If you really want to get ready for the SHTF scenario. Read this blog kept by a guy during the Argentina meltdown. Should be read by EVERYONE.

http://when-shtf.blogspot.com/2010/1...-collapse.html

No need to thank me, just read it, and be ready if it ever happens.
great read.

Paul Markham 08-04-2011 12:38 AM
Preparing for the melt down. Great thread Choker. With what's happening around the world the future could be very hard. Money in anything that has an inflated or superficial value could be hit, you can't eat gold or silver. Silver is used a lot in manufacturing, as these markets get hit less value in silver.

Look at the 1930s for inspiration in what to buy.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18330527)
I think it's not how many guns, its the amount of ammo that's important
Wrong.

It's the ability and will to use them.

A survey of WW2 soldiers who actually shot to kill discovered the % was very low, even when under attack. If all you middle class keyboard warriors thing you're more willing to kill someone than a pent up mob fueled by it's own momentum or someone whose so desperate to get something you have, then think again.

Modern soldiers have to go through very intensive training to be taught to kill. giving them a gun, ammo and teaching them to aim and pull the trigger at a paper target is something anyone can do. Killing someone is something very different.

Go back to playing soldiers on your computers. :1orglaugh

Anthony 08-04-2011 12:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 18330441)
Well, not to be a dick but that shot grouping is pretty bad for only 30 yards on iron sights. On a 300m target with iron sights, I'd say you'd miss a good 60% of the time.
You assume a lot. How do you know he's not zero'd out for 100yds max? Shooting someone at 300M is called Murder in the USA.

vdbucks 08-04-2011 01:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18330552)
You assume a lot. How do you know he's not zero'd out for 100yds max? Shooting someone at 300M is called Murder in the USA.
Well, you did mention shoot and train for 'shit hits the fan' scenarios... and training at 300m on iron sights is military standard* in the good 'ol US of A... so if you're not going to bother to train as good, or better, than the military... why bother training?

*As far as qualification goes. There are 4 targets @ 300m.. 4 targets which are usually the determining factor between an expert marksman... and a sharpshooter. Sure, you could settle for 36 out of 40... but we are talking "shit hits the fan" scenario.. and I dunno about you but I'd want the best possible training in such a scenario.. regardless of how ridiculous the notion itself is.

Paul&John 08-04-2011 01:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18330407)
If you really want to get ready for the SHTF scenario. Read this blog kept by a guy during the Argentina meltdown. Should be read by EVERYONE.

http://when-shtf.blogspot.com/2010/1...-collapse.html

No need to thank me, just read it, and be ready if it ever happens.
Read it like 2 years ago, it's pretty good and pretty long :)

Anthony 08-04-2011 01:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 18330571)
Well, you did mention shoot and train for 'shit hits the fan' scenarios... and training at 300m on iron sights is military standard* in the good 'ol US of A... so if you're not going to bother to train as good, or better, than the military... why bother training?

*As far as qualification goes. There are 4 targets @ 300m.. 4 targets which are usually the determining factor between an expert marksman... and a sharpshooter. Sure, you could settle for 36 out of 40... but we are talking "shit hits the fan" scenario.. and I dunno about you but I'd want the best possible training in such a scenario.. regardless of how ridiculous the notion itself is.
Like I said, you are assuming a lot. He's not in the military, and shooting 30yds. That is decent grouping for non military. I'd say he is doing a decent job, most ppl buy the long guns and never fire them at all. I'm pretty sure if he went with a decent ACOG, those groups would be tighter.

Anthony 08-04-2011 01:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 18330584)
Read it like 2 years ago, it's pretty good and pretty long :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by CYF (Post 18330530)
great read.
Quote:
Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18330521)
WoW ...... what a read.


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I try to share that link as much as possible. :thumbsup:thumbsup

Anthony 08-04-2011 01:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18330549)
Preparing for the melt down. Great thread Choker. With what's happening around the world the future could be very hard. Money in anything that has an inflated or superficial value could be hit, you can't eat gold or silver. Silver is used a lot in manufacturing, as these markets get hit less value in silver.

Look at the 1930s for inspiration in what to buy.




Wrong.

It's the ability and will to use them.

A survey of WW2 soldiers who actually shot to kill discovered the % was very low, even when under attack. If all you middle class keyboard warriors thing you're more willing to kill someone than a pent up mob fueled by it's own momentum or someone whose so desperate to get something you have, then think again.

Modern soldiers have to go through very intensive training to be taught to kill. giving them a gun, ammo and teaching them to aim and pull the trigger at a paper target is something anyone can do. Killing someone is something very different.

Go back to playing soldiers on your computers. :1orglaugh
When's the last time you've been in the military? We were given paper targets and told to shoot them. LOL

BradBangs 08-04-2011 01:45 AM
Like anyone on GFY has money to put on the side..

ottopottomouse 08-04-2011 03:39 AM
Can't eat gold.

Can't use your big pile of guns n ammo while you sleep.

Paul Markham 08-04-2011 03:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18330596)
When's the last time you've been in the military? We were given paper targets and told to shoot them. LOL
A member of the family is in the military and very very trained to kill people. we talked about the training. The thought process has to be conditioned out of recruits so they don't think when killing people. It's part of the job.

He said teaching him to hit a target 1000 meters away was easier than teaching him to kill someone 10 meters away.

How long did the training take you and what level were you at?

He's at the top level.

Jack Sparrow 08-04-2011 04:07 AM
John titor was right. Follow his advice.

Markul 08-04-2011 04:31 AM
I have a contingency plan with a fellow ex-solider, we have pointed out what bunker to take over, where to get our "equipement" and how to get our families to safety :thumbsup

darksoul 08-04-2011 04:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18330407)
If you really want to get ready for the SHTF scenario. Read this blog kept by a guy during the Argentina meltdown. Should be read by EVERYONE.

http://when-shtf.blogspot.com/2010/1...-collapse.html

No need to thank me, just read it, and be ready if it ever happens.
Good read but a totally different scenario from what the doom sayers are expecting.

vdbucks 08-04-2011 05:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18330589)
Like I said, you are assuming a lot. He's not in the military, and shooting 30yds. That is decent grouping for non military. I'd say he is doing a decent job, most ppl buy the long guns and never fire them at all. I'm pretty sure if he went with a decent ACOG, those groups would be tighter.
I'm not assuming anything.. I'm just saying that people who are supposedly preparing for the king shit of hitting fan then they should train properly :P

And it's not like being in the military itself teaches you how to shoot... the same manual they use out on the ranges is readily available for download from the army's website... There's not much they actually teach you outside of that... since most DS/DI's have only ever had the same training they're giving you.

http://www.benning.army.mil/infantry...F/FM3-22-9.pdf

Anyway, the whole notion itself is ridiculous anyway.. there are about a handful of people who actually give a shit that the US is going down the shitter extremely fast. The rest are too occupied with the bullshit the media feeds them, american idol, facebook etc. Otherwise known as... sheeple ><

charlie g 08-04-2011 05:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18330211)
I'm getting a Mossberg 500 combat shotgun very soon.


This

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ding_Stock.JPG

and this ftw.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ce99ARAhHhS7GL

I alternate buck shot and slugs in the chamber and then have a speed loader filled with buckshot. I can fire about 20 rounds in 8 seconds.

vdbucks 08-04-2011 05:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 18330830)
This

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ding_Stock.JPG

and this ftw.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ce99ARAhHhS7GL

I alternate buck shot and slugs in the chamber and then have a speed loader filled with buckshot. I can fire about 20 rounds in 8 seconds.
Those would honestly serve a much more useful purpose than any rifle if the shit ever did hit the fan and it was all or nothing, live or die...

PR_Glen 08-04-2011 06:25 AM
you gun collecting warriors are forgetting a couple of problems your guns can not protect you from...

One, you will need to sleep. You can stay up for a day or two and still be sharp enough to take someone out but after that your head and any common sense you have is gone. (believe me, i've been an insomniac for years...)

Second, as someone mentioned earlier, if there is a mob of people coming at you? It doesn't matter what your packing.. they will advance eventually and they will get to you.


A better solution is developing a strong sense of community.. friends, neighbours, relatives. Human survival has always done well in communities or groups. If it's just you and a few people in your house against everyone else you don't stand a chance...


oh.. and this type of scenario will not play out in north america in our lifetimes, we should all feel lucky that we don't need to deal with such decisions.

Barry-xlovecam 08-04-2011 06:34 AM
Seven more years?
http://club.ino.com/trading/2011/08/...obering-chart/

Choopa Phil 08-04-2011 06:37 AM
hoarding bit coins

charlie g 08-04-2011 07:22 AM
Yup, a mob that comes to my door will get ripped to shreds in under 10 seconds. The recoil is really light on these. The one thing I salute the French did right.

seeandsee 08-04-2011 07:23 AM
i am buying rope, so i can hang myself...


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