U want to know how shitty tube traffic is? Look at all the major tubes using juicyads. Lol. Tubes = shit traffic 4 life.

And yet another one to stupid to actually understand how to make money in the year 2011.

I lolleth :)

Could not have put it better myself :thumbsup

It would be a lot more meaningful if we could see more of your numbers as well as the videos you are putting up.

I do think you are mostly going for an impulse buy now. Often the content is out there somewhere for free but you are hoping that it will be worth the $30 for people to simply save some time and join instead for a better experience. It's a sliding scale, the harder it is to find decent stuff free without paying the more who will buy.

Porn is dead.

Idiot.

If they renew every month that's not a great sign.

They're unsure of the value of the ad for longer than a few months. If they forward booked 3, 6, 12 months it would be a great sign.

So "most" companies forward book. Which leaves you space to sell.

The fact that they need you to sell space isn't a good sign. Most advertising personnel in "papermags from the 80s" were little more than order takers. The space was so good it had to be pre booked and selling it wasn't required. It was supplied. The last thing they needed was some person going around trying to sell space.

Yes online ads can be rotated, magazines could of increased pages of adverting, but there's still space to be had and some people don't like it enough to cancel and others don't like it enough to only renew every month. The Tubes could just offer 6 months with a discount which is your cut and then you're not needed.

There was a guy on here recently spamming Tube ads and hitting people up on ICQ. Not a good sign.

I must admite i have failed with tubes, myself i cannot even convert the tube traffic to cams or dating ,same shit for membership sites, this is the reason i use only juicy ads. To increase my juicy ads sales i need to build more tubes and this is what i have done.
How did you get sales from your tubes?

From selling ads. :1orglaugh

you sum up in one post why you will never ever get the internet.

things change so fast on the internet what might sell one week on one site might literally wont the next week. doesn't mean things wont sell next week, but you have to be on top of things and be supple.

what if you bought a year on pornhub and the next day it got banned from google. that wouldn't make you a good businessman, that would make you a fool.


stop trying to use horse and buggy experience in the space age and go finish your puzzle.

So tube sites DO NOT help people profit in the adult industry?

Dishing out tens of thousands of porn clips in all niches, FOR FREE, doesn't lead to more sign-ups?!

Wow, I'm shocked!

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lol at frisky saying tube traffic converts amazing while being hired to sell ads spaces on tubes...
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Im not hired to just sell ads, i do a lot more then that lol.
Selling ads is the easy part, and unsold spots we use to do our own pps. If it wouldnt cost time to get them sold i'd do pps on them 24/7.

Keep thinking tubes dont convert though ;)

LOL !

Amazing. That is your way to quote "make you look like a fool" ?
For real?

Yeah man, i guess companies renewing their spots 8 months in a row must mean they are losing out on a lot of money. Its really really shitty that they do this. Porn is dead.

Get your nurse in there old man, you are rambling. Let them up the medicine again.

Why most tube sites are using PPC instead of PPS?

They are using AdXpansion, Ero Advertising, ExoClick.

They don't care about sales because they know that there are no sales happening.

They use PPS for dating / cams sponsors.

The question is how they pay the costs for all that traffic?
Are they data center owners?

I honestly cannot understand these people.

From the looks of it you indeed dont understand much about it.

Why are tubes selling adspots..

Why is google selling them?
Why is every newspaper selling them?

Tubes sell spots to any asshole - but very few make PROFITS using these ads. Not paysites, or extremely few, that's for sure. Pills, mind fuck chicks, make your dick GROW, want a date in ur city, cams - THESE make a profit, and enough of one so that's it's a mathematical equation for them to make a profit, tho many companies find they plateau. So it's really finding that 'sweet spot' on not buying too much and not enough traffic.

But again, MAN does it depend on your landing pages and what the fuck you're trying to sell in order to recoup that 20k+ these tubes charge you.

Three cents. LOL

Most of our advertisers are happy with the 4-6times cash on sales of what the ads cost them.

Funny how there are this many experts on tubes, but all the ones bitching about them never ran any or saw them from the inside :)

Most tubes do not sell traffic CPC its all CPM
If you have any to sell at CPC I will test it out

Exavtly.

Homegrown Video knows how to convert tube traffic
 

Our conversions have steadily improved on tubes. I know other programs that convert just as well if not better. They aren't going to come on here and say it becasue they are happy others have yet to figure it out that, yes, you actually can sell paysites to tube traffic. You can also generate sweet organics which even trumps targetted search traffic so that should be weighed in as well. Whoever says no one will type in a url off a branded clip I just have to respectfully disagree with.

We improve our tube conversion ratios every month. Call bullshit all you want. Let's have the conversation in a year or two and see who is still in business.

People can just as easily blow through a ton of cash on google traffic and not get sales as they can buying traffic from any adult traffic broker.