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baddog 08-11-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18347907)
i wouldn't even hazard a guess as to what that is. and there were no pics on the link i clicked so yes, i missed the pictures. :-(

It is obviously a prototype of an A-bomb. Take off the blinders.


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dyna mo 08-11-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18347917)
It is obviously a prototype of an A-bomb. Take off the blinders.


</sarcasm>

well played.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 08-11-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18347910)
and you still have not proven that the US military EVER BOMBED strikers. Crowd control in a riot is not an act of war.



More of your bullshit . . . I can take care of this

how does a military bomber disperse a crowd, baddog? who owns private planes in 1921 and how do these private planes get military ordinance?

ahh swearing.

Sunny Day 08-11-2011 12:07 PM

40 hour work week not law until 1932
 
25 June 1938 (United States)
The Wages and Hours (later Fair Labor Standards) Act is passed, banning child labor and setting the 40-hour work week. The Act went into effect in October 1940, and was upheld in the Supreme Court on 3 February 1941.

That's from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelin...ues_and_events

You can see how many times troops or Natl. Guardsmen were called out

May 1934 (United States)
Police attacked and fired upon striking Teamster truck drivers in Minneapolis who were demanding recognition of their union, wage increases, and shorter working hours. As violence escalated, Governor Olson went so far as to declare martial law in Minneapolis, deploying 4,000 National Guardsmen. The strike ended on August 21 when company owners finally accepted union demands.

20 April 1914 (United States)
The "Ludlow Massacre." In an attempt to persuade strikers at Colorado's Ludlow Mine Field to return to work, company "guards," engaged by John D. Rockefeller, Jr. and other mine operators and sworn into the State Militia just for the occasion, attacked a union tent camp with machine guns, then set it afire. Five men, two women and 12 children died as a result.[4][5]

Unions did violence too. But guards at Ford plants in the 30's carried Thompson sub-machine guns and used them regularly.

Sunny Day 08-11-2011 12:13 PM

Mitchell was called to use airplanes, did not act
 
From
http://www.wvculture.org/history/jou...h/wvh50-1.html



Even while negotiating with Governor Morgan, General Harbord proceeded with preparations to intervene. On August 26, he sent Bandholtz to prepare for infantry operations and instructed Major General Charles T. Menoher, Chief of the Air Service, to examine Kanawha Field, outside Charleston, to determine its suitability for use in either reconnaissance or tactical air support operations. Later in the day, commander of the First Provisional Air Brigade, Brigadier General Billy Mitchell, personally led a flight of three olive-drab DeHavilland Bombers (DH-4B) from Bolling Field in the District of Columbia to execute Harbord's orders concerning Kanawha Field. Upon landing, Mitchell, never one to mince words about airpower, commented to the press that the Army Air Service, by itself, could end the civil disturbance by dropping canisters of tear gas upon the miners. If that failed he recommended the use of artillery by the ground forces to bring the crisis to a speedy conclusion.31

Fortunately, Billy Mitchell lost the opportunity to demonstrate what tear gas or artillery could do to mountaineers, miners, and immigrants armed with hunting rifles. As soon as Keeney and Mooney read Bandholtz's note and addressed the crowd, the miners decided to call off the march. The two men impressed the group with the seriousness of the current situation and appealed to their loyalty and patriotism. If the march continued, it was stated, it would be done against the direct orders of the President of the United States. The miners would then be facing the entire might of the federal government and the United States Army. For the first time many miners realized that their march was interpreted by federal authorities as a rebellion against the West Virginia and federal governments and not as a justified and righteous struggle against what miners perceived as greedy coal operators, corrupt sheriffs, or ruthless Baldwin-Felts "thugs." As the marchers began to disperse, Keeney and Mooney hurriedly made arrangements with local railroads on August 27 to return the miners to their homes.32

_Richard_ 08-11-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunny Day (Post 18348012)
From
http://www.wvculture.org/history/jou...h/wvh50-1.html



Even while negotiating with Governor Morgan, General Harbord proceeded with preparations to intervene. On August 26, he sent Bandholtz to prepare for infantry operations and instructed Major General Charles T. Menoher, Chief of the Air Service, to examine Kanawha Field, outside Charleston, to determine its suitability for use in either reconnaissance or tactical air support operations. Later in the day, commander of the First Provisional Air Brigade, Brigadier General Billy Mitchell, personally led a flight of three olive-drab DeHavilland Bombers (DH-4B) from Bolling Field in the District of Columbia to execute Harbord's orders concerning Kanawha Field. Upon landing, Mitchell, never one to mince words about airpower, commented to the press that the Army Air Service, by itself, could end the civil disturbance by dropping canisters of tear gas upon the miners. If that failed he recommended the use of artillery by the ground forces to bring the crisis to a speedy conclusion.31

Fortunately, Billy Mitchell lost the opportunity to demonstrate what tear gas or artillery could do to mountaineers, miners, and immigrants armed with hunting rifles. As soon as Keeney and Mooney read Bandholtz's note and addressed the crowd, the miners decided to call off the march. The two men impressed the group with the seriousness of the current situation and appealed to their loyalty and patriotism. If the march continued, it was stated, it would be done against the direct orders of the President of the United States. The miners would then be facing the entire might of the federal government and the United States Army. For the first time many miners realized that their march was interpreted by federal authorities as a rebellion against the West Virginia and federal governments and not as a justified and righteous struggle against what miners perceived as greedy coal operators, corrupt sheriffs, or ruthless Baldwin-Felts "thugs." As the marchers began to disperse, Keeney and Mooney hurriedly made arrangements with local railroads on August 27 to return the miners to their homes.32

so the picture of the miners with the bomb is a fake?

Sunny Day 08-11-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18348028)
so the picture of the miners with the bomb is a fake?

I have no clue or clue where/when that picture was taken. Could be a bomb to use on miners, could be a bomb made by miners for all I know.

baddog 08-11-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunny Day (Post 18348158)
I have no clue or clue where/when that picture was taken. Could be a bomb to use on miners, could be a bomb made by miners for all I know.

Oh come on. Stop being such a sheep. The only reason thermonuclear devices were not used for union busting is that the strike line was right in front of the businesses. They needed smart bombs.


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