For those who are interested...

Glock has recently built a 100 yard range at their facility in GA. Considering that Glock only makes handguns, it kinda makes you wonder why they need a 100 yard range.

Rumor has it that they are about to enter the AR-15 market.

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I hunt anyone that trys to break in my house

Hey, Choker, I don't want to see you get into trouble, so you need to very carefully review The National Firarms Act:

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/

It is this way; if you build a rifle from an unspecified AR-15 receiver it IS a rifle and will ALWAYS be a rifle under ATF rules. If you put a top on the receiver with a barrel length of LESS than 16" you have constructed a "Short Barrelled Rifle" and comitted at least THREE felony violations under the act; namely:

(1) Construction without an approved Form One. (You ain't done this:

http://www.titleii.com/pdf/NewF1.pdf ).

(2) Possession of an Unregistered Firearm under The Act; namley. a Short Barrelled Rifle.

(3) Construction of a Fiream under The ACT without payment of the "Making Tax" of $200.00.

Each of these violations are what we call "Five And Tens"; five years and $10,000.00 EACH.

If you build an AR-15 PISTOL from an unspecefied receiver, it is a PISTOL forever and you cannot install a shoulder stock; See: "Short Barrelled Rifle".

It's like this, you can put a long top on a pistol but you cannot put a short top on a non-NFA rifle.

You cannot put a shoulder stock on a pistol.

Be very, very careful about the interernals that you use, as a double-hooked M-16 hammer used by mistake causes the rifle or pistol to be classified as an unregistered machine gun, even though the hammer alone will not cause the rifle or pistol to fire in any kind of full-auto mode.

You cannot put a vertical foregrip on a pistil; See: "Any Other Weapon" under the NFA.

Check out this guide to construction of AR-15 type rifles, it is accurate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15#L...ts_of_an_AR-15

And here:

http://www.ar15.com/content/legal/AR15-M16Parts/

No Federal registratioin is required for contruction of Non-NFA rifles and pistols but state or local laws may.

Best wishes for safe and LEGAL construction and shooting!

Why would he need to review any of that?

He bought AR's that were already built and he has said nothing about modifying them in any way that would be an NFA issue. He's already stated that the 6" AR has no stock and is just a buffer tube so that classifies it as a pistol.

Nothing you posted is wrong but none of it concerns Choker either.

Jesus was a Jew, silly!

What if some motherfucker at the club be lookin' at you all hard and shit?

Choker wrote in the OP:

"Wow. Convert it from a pistol to a rifle in 60 seconds. Fucking awesome. No wonder so many guys love these guns."

Here:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1033804

Post 1.

Make one tiny mistake and you are FUCKED!

You are a stupid motherfucker and a hater.

Choker even posted a pic of RECEIVERS, which he intended to COMPLETE as firearms!

You are a stupid dickwad!

It is very, very easy to make an unintended mistake with AR-15 type rifles or pistols; the kind of mistake that can land you in fucking PRISON, even if you did not intend to make the mistake, so I thought I'd try to help out Choker in this regard.

Of course I have no REAL knowledge of this sort of thing after having been a TITLE TWO MANUFACTURER FOR SOMETHING LIKE TWENTY FUCKING YEARS!

You can SUCK MY BALLS!

Well said. :thumbsup

its too hard to get a gun in perth

Wow, such animosity. Now I understand why people hate you. Choker never said he intended to convert anything involving NFA items so again, your response is shit.

I'd also like to point out that Choker has not posted a single pic in this thread yet and never mentioned anything about completing any firearms.

Now who's the stupid motherfucking ball sucking dickwad hater?

^^^That would be you. Have a fabulous evening. :1orglaugh

LOL, Not quite. :)

I explained myself and showed you how you were wrong.

Fuck you where you breathe.

Sorry, you are correct, AaronM posted the pix; Mea Culpa but my caveats apply anyway; Choker started the thread and in his first post mentioned conversions.

And go fuck yourself anyway.

Of course I'm correct, I'm pretty sure I recall posting the pic. But thanks for stating the obvious.

Mentioning that something can be done in a matter of seconds and stating that he intends to do them are two very different things.

Here's an idea....Stop being a dick for absolutely no reason. :2 cents:

You guys stay over there and shoot each other

Sig Sauer just came out with a pretty nice one too.

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Now I understand why everyone hates you. I didn't post a single fucking pic nor did I say anything about me converting anything. I was simply stating that you can do these things. I bought from a FFD and what I bought was in the factory box, no modifications at all and 100% legal. I don't have the desire, inclination, nor motivation to modify any gun. I'm lazy. Hell I take my guns to a dealer to get them cleaned. That's how lazy I am. I don't need or want your help. I think it best you just stay out of my threads.

You did not post the pic and I corrected myself on that in this very thread.

Staying out of "your" threads (Funny, I thought the threads belong to GFY!)is not a fucking problem, asshole but you lying motherfucker, you wrote:

""Wow. Convert it from a pistol to a rifle in 60 seconds. Fucking awesome. No wonder so many guys love these guns." You did not write that you were going to do it but you fucking well did write that, which implies that you MIGHT do it and if you do and make one of those tiny little Five and Ten mistakes and get caught, you'll have your username justified in no time at all because the guys in the Graybar Hotel will sure as fuck give you something to choke on and you won't like it!

You did not post the pic and I corrected myself on that in this very thread.

Fucking around with AR-15s, great rifle though they are, has gotten more people into serious trouble than you can imagine and just thought I might give you a caution since for members of the general public the words "AR-15" and "converting" or "conversions" should not even be used together on the same day, much less in the same post!

And by the way, Florida, if that's where you really are, will stack state charges with any federal, conviction usually resulting in consecutive sentences but you have a nice day, mkay?

Like I said, now I understand why EVERYONE hates you. What a miserable piece of shit you are. Accusing me of committing a felony? So now your accusations go from I intend to commit a felony to I implied that I intend to commit a felony? Boy, girl whatever you are, you need to check your ass before it gets handed to you. Sometimes it's best to just shut your fucking mouth. For you this is one of those times. Understand?

You need to read what I wrote. I did NOT accuse you of intentionally intending to commit a felony; I wrote that if you get to fucking around with AR-15s and don't do it the right way, you COULD commit a felony without intending to but that fact would make no difference in the eyes of BATFE.

Most people just don't know how much trouble they can get into and for that matter, many FFLs don't know the law very well!

This actually happened; a guy at a shooting range had an AR-15 pistol. He also had a long (16 1/2) top and a should stock. He installed the shoulder stock on the pistol BEFORE he took off the shorty (9") top and there *just happened* to be a BATFE Agent there who arrested him for "manufacturing and possession of an unregistered short barrelled rifle". No shit and it stuck.

Had he removed the shorty top or installed the long top BEFORE he installed the shoulder stock, he would have been fine.

This is how technical BATFE can be and they HATE ARs, AKS and MACs, so with any of these firearms you realy have to watch your step but you seem to know it all, so I'm sure you will be fine.

AR-15's Ain't No Joke, This I know first hand

AR-15 is 5.56. Same as the military M16. M60 is 7.62., or am I missing something?

Bad ass! I miss the MP5 I used to carry in the military.

The most common AR-15 caliber is 5.56 but it is offered in several additional calibers.

Among those missing:
.223
7.62x39
.204 Ruger
6.8SPC
.50 Beowulf
300 AAC Blackout
9mm
Etc...


The M60 is 7.62x51 (.308) while the AR-15 is available in 7.62x39.

Isn't 5.56 the exact same as .223

yes.

http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/556...Ch-t22582.html

found this as well.

to the best of my understanding anyhow.

aaron?

Good find, so they are not exactly the same.

No, they are not "exactly" the same. Like the post seeric linked to says:

"The primary difference between .223 Remington and 5.56 x 45 mm is that .223 is loaded to lower pressures and velocities compared to 5.56 mm. .223 Remington ammunition can be safely fired in a 5.56 mm chambered gun, but the reverse can be an unsafe combination."

"While the 5.56 mm and .223 cartridges are very similar, they are not identical."

Generally speaking, .223 is more accurate. If you're building a match or precision rifle, like this one, you're going to build it in .223.

http://ampcontent.com/photos/PrecisionAR003.jpg
http://ampcontent.com/photos/PrecisionAR006.jpg

Here's another thread on the same forum. Read post #2.

http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/223...-W-t12534.html

Guess I should have finished reading the thread before responding. :glugglug

I built a CAR-15(now called the M4) about 20 years ago. I ordered all of the parts through Olympic Arms in Washington state, and snapped it together myself. I got some help with the barrel torquing and gas tube, but everything else I did myself. I even made my own rounds.

I just picked up two of these for $499.00 each. Wanted something fun and not so loud to play around with. I noticed the conversion kits to 22 were like $150 so I think buying them as dedicated 22 is much cheaper like this. Haven't shot them yet, guy at store said that standard 22 may not have enough gas to load the rounds, I'll find out soon enough LOL

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_Y

More and more companies building these recently. There is definitely a market for them. IMHO, it's a better option than dropping in a .22 conversion kit.

Troy Industries released a new stock for the Ruger 10/22 this year. It's $300 but pretty damn cool and a great way to reconfigure any old 10/22's to something a little neater.

http://troyind.com/%20/troy-weapon-u...al-coming-soon

Mosssberg makes one that you can get for a little over 200 bucks. (MSRP: $276.00)

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/D...sit=&pid=&inv=

that's gonna be a hawt gun :D