Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18353889)

A lot of Asians in the developing countries are barbarians. Dogs, cats, chickens, people... all the same to a lot of them.

Thailand is having problems now where the chicken producers are filling the chickens with embalming fluid (for dead people) to try to preserve the chicken after it's sold. It has made a lot of people very sick and they keep busting place after place doing the same thing. Then of course there are the Thai fishing companies who are using Burmese slave labor, taking them out on the boats, working them almost to death, then killing them instead of paying them. I think that made the news a couple of times and then it was business as usual.

It's sad to say, but life is not worth a whole lot in many places around the world.

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18354656)

Eating dog is like eating a horse or a donkey... a complete waste of resources. You can argue cuteness and cruelty to pigs, cows and chickens until your blue in the face, the reality is those animals serve as one purpose and one purpose only, for eating, they wouldn't have survived on their own, and what we have bred them into they would never survive on their own so there is no argument.

Yet dogs have been domesticated by us for 1000's of years aiding us with farming in times were farm hands were non existent due to disease or war. It would take a man 9 or 10 years to wait for his son to be old enough to work on the fields or to help to keep the live stock or produce safe, with dogs it would only take a few months. If it wasn't farming they were helping us with it was hunting.

I still believe animals for eating should be treated as humanely as possible still, but putting them on par with dogs is just complete ignorance--unless it is last resort.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18354698)

wow

Under Canada's Wildlife Act, it is illegal to sell meat from any wild species, but there is no law against selling and serving canine meat, including dogs, if it is killed and gutted in front of federal inspectors

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18354698)

Under Canada's Wildlife Act, it is illegal to sell meat from any wild species

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 18354717)

when i lived in canada i saw people with moose and deer in the back of their station wagons all winter long. they grind them up and sold the sausage. even had my share its a bit salty but meat is meat, i dont see how dog would/should be any different

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18354639)

Embalming fluid? Wouldn't that be too expensive? Here in the Philippines, traders would just sell chickens that died during the growout stages at a massive discount. called "double dead" meat. Big business apparently because the meat is 50 to 75 percent cheaper. People wouldn't know the difference specially if the meat is used for sausages or ground up or used in soup. Anyone know if you can suffer any long term health issues from eating double dead meat?

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18354656)

Eating dog is like eating a horse or a donkey... a complete waste of resources. You can argue cuteness and cruelty to pigs, cows and chickens until your blue in the face, the reality is those animals serve as one purpose and one purpose only, for eating, they wouldn't have survived on their own, and what we have bred them into they would never survive on their own so there is no argument.

Yet dogs have been domesticated by us for 1000's of years aiding us with farming in times were farm hands were non existent due to disease or war. It would take a man 9 or 10 years to wait for his son to be old enough to work on the fields or to help to keep the live stock or produce safe, with dogs it would only take a few months. If it wasn't farming they were helping us with it was hunting.

Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 18354680)

Yes I saw the report on fishing on the BBC a few months ago and you say its back to business? The report was shocking. The same shrimp we buy at English supermarkets.

Originally Posted by Emma (Post 18355348)

It's really sad

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 18355470)

What's up with people missing the point? The main issue here is not wheter they're dogs or other animals.

Maybe there should be more posts like this about cows, pigs and chickens too. Just because people may be ignorant, doesn't mean we should not care AT ALL. There are different ways to make a steak and if people would know exactly how they got theirs, many would probably make different choices.

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 18355538)

Ok the point is, even if it's pigs or chicken, they shouldn't be treated as the dogs were in this case(if you actually read the case), and I'm pretty sure it would be against some laws and regulations. I'm not saying that the meat in usual hamburger was treated very "humanly" but there's still some laws about it, and probably could be better ones still.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18355557)

their going to slaughter how should they be treated? the cages bigger??

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 18355538)

Ok the point is, even if it's pigs or chicken, they shouldn't be treated as the dogs were in this case(if you actually read the case), and I'm pretty sure it would be against some laws and regulations. I'm not saying that the meat in usual hamburger was treated very "humanly" but there's still some laws about it, and probably could be better ones still.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18355557)

their going to slaughter how should they be treated? the cages bigger??

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18355642)

Here's the thing. People eat meat and that's not going to change.
The idea of humane treatment of animals prior to slaughter (and during the slaughtering process) has made great headway in several countries because humans have evolved to the point of having empathy towards other animals on the planet, and laws have been made to make those who don't give a shit adhere to standards of humane treatment.

Imagine living in fear inside a small box your entire life, not being able to move and never seeing the sun. Then you die.

If you can imagine that then you will see a reason for humane laws.

Still a long way to go but its getting there.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18355663)

so basically like death row less the eating of the body afterwards.

Originally Posted by The Duck (Post 18355788)

Anyone who eat any kind of meat relinquishes his right to complain about any kind of animal cruelty.

Originally Posted by Emil (Post 18353787)

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18353507)

oh great, instead of feeding humans these dogs will be costing humans money up until they are killed because no one can take care of them

great idea

dog = animal
cow, pig, rabbit, chicken = animal

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 18355577)

As I said there are(and should be) laws about how animals should be treated, even if they're going to slaughter.

Originally Posted by twistyneck (Post 18353504)

I don't see a problem with eating dogs as long as it is done as humanely as possible.

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 18355577)

As I said there are(and should be) laws about how animals should be treated, even if they're going to slaughter.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18353876)

Thailand still has areas eating dog, it's just hush hush.

I also don't have a problem with people eating dog (or any animal), so long as they are put down humanely.

If this dog story bothers you, ponder how many children and women were trafficked on the same day and didn't get caught. And knowing Thailand, the ONLY reason they caught the dog traffickers is because someone didn't get greased.

Originally Posted by The Duck (Post 18355788)

Anyone who eat any kind of meat relinquishes his right to complain about any kind of animal cruelty.

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18356056)

there is: kosher

Originally Posted by The Duck (Post 18355788)

Anyone who eat any kind of meat relinquishes his right to complain about any kind of animal cruelty.

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18356020)

Ok and what exactly should these laws be? you just make a stupid blanket statement that offers 0 solution.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18356063)

That's what I was thinking. Many countries eat dog. And knowing Thailand..those cops probably took those dogs and then sold them themselves to a meat packing plant. :(