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GregE 08-20-2011 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DaCaptain (Post 18368797)
If the regime does change, then we need to wait and see what happens there...my guess is it that the new government will not be a friend of the United States.
Of course it won't be a friend of the United States.

What we're discussing here is an Arab government which, by definition, precludes any such outcome.

The only question is whether the new Libyan regime will be more or less unfriendly than the old one.

Personally, I can see that going either way.

crockett 08-20-2011 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18367525)
No, he doesn't.

We could have bitch smacked Gaddafi into submission like a $3 whore in four days if we wanted to.
Then what require a bunch of US troops on the ground and let it be another Iraq that takes 10 years to get out? It was done the right way, let their own rebels do it while giving them a bit of support.

12clicks 08-20-2011 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18368857)
Thanks for taking the time out of your amazing life and day to once again respond on gfy, with another amazing example of your brilliant intellect.
What, loser?
It's hard to hear you all the way down there on the bottom rung. :1orglaugh

BVF 08-20-2011 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18368860)
Frankly I don't see how any one party can solely claim the victory. It was a combination of many factors, and it has been very rocky for quite sometime. The last month or so there seems to have been some great victories by the rebels. And that's just it... without the rebels there would be nothing, without NATO there would be nothing, without France there would be nothing, without Italy there would be nothing, without the United States there would be nothing, and so on.

It seems as if the rebels have been more organized as of late and have had a specific focus of taking one city at a time to surround the base. I'm sure that they have plenty of Libyan army defectors guiding them, but it also makes you wonder who else might be in there helping with strategy.

Where this pro-Gaddafi populace is hiding has yet to be seen. When the rebels were chipping away, city by city, where were these loyalists? Libya is crippled. Rebels have won.
Who was in office when the Libyan war was started? A Democrat...Therefore Obama gets credit, regardless of how you want to spin it...Obama runs Nato and France and Italy already have to kiss our asses as we are the great empire...

Who is FUNDING those "organized as of late" rebels? Who is providing them ARMS?...That doesn't make me WONDER about shit as I know for a fact it was Obama who is responsible for providing the strategy as he is the current Emperor of this empire. You think France and Italy and NATO are helping just for shits and giggles? Hell no.....They're getting some sort of benefit from this.

And PLEASE outline to me how in the holy hell the Republicans can take ANY credit for this shit.

Sly 08-20-2011 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 18369007)
Who was in office when the Libyan war was started? A Democrat...Therefore Obama gets credit, regardless of how you want to spin it...Obama runs Nato and France and Italy already have to kiss our asses as we are the great empire...

Who is FUNDING those "organized as of late" rebels? Who is providing them ARMS?...That doesn't make me WONDER about shit as I know for a fact it was Obama who is responsible for providing the strategy as he is the current Emperor of this empire. You think France and Italy and NATO are helping just for shits and giggles? Hell no.....They're getting some sort of benefit from this.

And PLEASE outline to me how in the holy hell the Republicans can take ANY credit for this shit.
All hail the mighty and powerful United States.

Good lord, now I see where non-Americans are coming from when they bitch about our arrogance.

BVF 08-20-2011 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18369013)
All hail the mighty and powerful United States.

Good lord, now I see where non-Americans are coming from when they bitch about our arrogance.
I advise you listen to a free podcast on itunes called "The History Of Rome".....It's eerie how much our society is based on it...Be sure to listen from the beginning...I'm around 70 episodes in, just past the death of the second greatest emperor in rome ever, Trajan....

Worrying about "arrogance" has been going on since the beginning of time....that area of the world, especially Syria and Iran (The Parthian Empire) has ALWAYS been of interest....And like any "emperor", Obama needs a great Military victory to add to his resume, and Libya is one of them...It's our DESTINY to fuck with the Middle East.

And just like back in rome, there were always others who bitched about their arrogance...That's LIFE!

TheDoc 08-20-2011 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18368997)
What, loser?
It's hard to hear you all the way down there on the bottom rung. :1orglaugh
Thanks for the reply again... it's amazing how a man of your stature, basically a celebrity, no no - a god! Continually takes the time to not only visit us bottom rung folks, day after day, but also respond to us, day after day, endlessly giving us hope with your wisdom, like Jesus almost, but you're the real deal, you're the king of kings, and you live amongst us - you're here with us, loving us daily, what a man, shit... you're the man that shits gold out of is ass, Jesus couldn't even do that, you truly are - the man! :thumbsup

12clicks 08-20-2011 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18369140)
Thanks for the reply again... it's amazing how a man of your stature, basically a celebrity, no no - a god! Continually takes the time to not only visit us bottom rung folks, day after day, but also respond to us, day after day, endlessly giving us hope with your wisdom, like Jesus almost, but you're the real deal, you're the king of kings, and you live amongst us - you're here with us, loving us daily, what a man, shit... you're the man that shits gold out of is ass, Jesus couldn't even do that, you truly are - the man! :thumbsup
another drunk bitter night, eh little one?
reflecting back on a lifetime of poor choices?
oh well, the lottery goes off a few times a week. Buy yourself a ticket.:1orglaugh

marlboroack 08-20-2011 09:14 PM
Last time America dropped bombs the people who dropped them were taken out also. It was a cluster fuck. I was there.

TheDoc 08-20-2011 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18369162)
another drunk bitter night, eh little one?
reflecting back on a lifetime of poor choices?
oh well, the lottery goes off a few times a week. Buy yourself a ticket.:1orglaugh
It must be another boring Saturday night for you on the ol'yacht to have you blessing us bottom rung folk once again.

slavdogg 08-20-2011 09:58 PM
i'll give credit to Obama for Lybia. Who gives a shit ? doesnt change anything .
In reality it was Hillary Clinton that forced Ombatard to bomb Lybia

So 2012 rolls around, election year and the only record Obama can run on is Lybia ?
Most succesful food stamp president of all time will run for reelections on his Lybian record ?

haha good luck tree huggers

crockett 08-21-2011 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by slavdogg (Post 18369210)
i'll give credit to Obama for Lybia. Who gives a shit ? doesnt change anything .
In reality it was Hillary Clinton that forced Ombatard to bomb Lybia

So 2012 rolls around, election year and the only record Obama can run on is Lybia ?
Most succesful food stamp president of all time will run for reelections on his Lybian record ?

haha good luck tree huggers
I guess you forgot he also got Bin Laden as it was Obama that made the call to send the troops in. Not to mention he did what he promised in Iraq by pulling out the bulk of the troops in Iraq. He also did what he promised in his campaign and put the focus on Afghan where it should of been from the start.

You don't have to like him or agree with him, but one thing he has done what he promised when it comes to the so called war on terror.

HerPimp 08-21-2011 01:56 AM
get in that ass

Lucy - CSC 08-21-2011 05:18 AM
So Lybia will now get asset stripped by the IMF and the people put into poverty and you think this is a good job by Obama?

Anyone who thinks that puppet Obama is any better than puppet Bush is a moron. They are solely there to create profit for the banking industry and wars for the military industrial complex.

12clicks 08-21-2011 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18369182)
It must be another boring Saturday night for you on the ol'yacht to have you blessing us bottom rung folk once again.
This kid must be winning in fantasy land.

The Demon 08-21-2011 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 18369007)
Who was in office when the Libyan war was started? A Democrat...Therefore Obama gets credit, regardless of how you want to spin it...Obama runs Nato and France and Italy already have to kiss our asses as we are the great empire...

Who is FUNDING those "organized as of late" rebels? Who is providing them ARMS?...That doesn't make me WONDER about shit as I know for a fact it was Obama who is responsible for providing the strategy as he is the current Emperor of this empire. You think France and Italy and NATO are helping just for shits and giggles? Hell no.....They're getting some sort of benefit from this.

And PLEASE outline to me how in the holy hell the Republicans can take ANY credit for this shit.
So by your "whoever is in office" logic, Obama is also responsible for our economic downfall? Or is this where the double standards come in?

blackwater 08-21-2011 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 18367376)
Rebels now have Tripoli surrounded and Gadhafi is said to be planning his exit before he gets killed.

Obama knows how to properly utilize our military. Drop some bombs, arm some rebels and BAM, the guy you want gone is gone. No quagmires here!

Republicans are going to be in a tizzy over this one since they can't claim an ounce of credit for any of it. This is all on Hillary and our Obamessiah! :GFYBand
And that has made the world a safer place? GOD BLESS AMERICA! (I really mean that)
Arm some rebles? just like they funded and armed the very groups they are fighting in afganistan? You know the guys that flew into your trade center? They used to be on Americas pay role.
What does the government know about this ragtag bunch of arab yahoo's. They may be wearing baseball caps now but the turbans will come back out when they are not relying on nato. People have short memories. One of the oppositions gripes used to be how gadafi was in bed with the west.
Lets have a look at Egypt. The "Arab spring" was welcomed by the U.S but now Isreal (US funded) are now seeing attacks via the Egyptian borders.
I hope you have a lot of time on your hands because your call up papers could be posted within the year.
I want a better future for my kids? What about you?

Socks 08-21-2011 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 18367724)
Meanwhile, back at home, Obama is on vacation in Martha's Vineyard.

He just announced that he will reveal his economic plan in September.

Right now, it is hot and he wants to take a "double dip."
Should the President ever be allowed a vacation in your opinion?

I'm sure they can't contact him in the event of an emergency.

So if the man CAN have a vacation, why complain about it?

TheSquealer 08-21-2011 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18369413)
I guess you forgot he also got Bin Laden as it was Obama that made the call to send the troops in. Not to mention he did what he promised in Iraq by pulling out the bulk of the troops in Iraq. He also did what he promised in his campaign and put the focus on Afghan where it should of been from the start.

You don't have to like him or agree with him, but one thing he has done what he promised when it comes to the so called war on terror.
People care about jobs and the economy.

Anything else is a distraction.

People aren't going to vote for someone because he approved a plan to sneak up on and shoot a terrorist.

People don't care about the nuances of Iraq or Afghanistan. Either we are there, or we aren't. Either wars are happening which we are a part of, or we aren't.

.

blackwater 08-21-2011 06:22 AM
Also, What victory? Gadafi is still in power (for now) He will go eventually I give you that but when you say Victory does that mean you won? and if so won what?
You will have succeeded in creating another state run by unelected gun toting rebels who you know fuck all about. At least this will keep the US arms trade in business but don't go whining when they're turned against you.

Lucy - CSC 08-21-2011 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 18369634)
Should the President ever be allowed a vacation in your opinion?

I'm sure they can't contact him in the event of an emergency.

So if the man CAN have a vacation, why complain about it?
The British Primeminister David Cameron is back on holiday his 5th in 5 months. It doesnt really matter if they are on holiday or in the office as they arent the onces running the show anyway.

Coup 08-21-2011 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AAB (Post 18368734)
Are you having a bad day or are you this slow all the time?
No no you're right. silly me. Here I thought the present government of libya had a long history of supporting terrorism. Clearly I am wrong on this. Thanks for pointing out my silly folly

http://212.150.54.123/documents/documentdet.cfm?docid=2

blackwater 08-21-2011 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18369648)
The British Primeminister David Cameron is back on holiday his 5th in 5 months. It doesnt really matter if they are on holiday or in the office as they arent the onces running the show anyway.
Too true!!
Some people on here need to go read the book (not the film) Charlie Wilson's war to find out just how much say the president or hillary have on such matters. They are puppets with no power. Thats why the rhetoric changes but the actions dont. Just different puppets but the same puppet masters.

cykoe6 08-21-2011 06:39 AM
It is too early to determine whether Obama's strategy in Libya has succeeded. Even if Qaddafi falls, the aftermath and what results will determine how it is viewed by history.

TheSquealer 08-21-2011 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18369664)
It is too early to determine whether Obama's strategy in Libya has succeeded. Even if Qaddafi falls, the aftermath and what results will determine how it is viewed by history.
It's never too early when you're irrational and have an agenda :)

blackwater 08-21-2011 06:52 AM
"Obama's strategy" :1orglaugh

TheDoc 08-21-2011 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18369595)
This kid must be winning in fantasy land.
More amazing dialect from gfy's infamous poser... what other wisdoms will you bestow on us bottom rung folk today?

My Pimp 08-21-2011 09:26 AM
bump bump

directfiesta 08-21-2011 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18369664)
It is too early to determine whether Obama's strategy in Libya has succeeded. Even if Qaddafi falls, the aftermath and what results will determine how it is viewed by history.
I amazingly sagree with you ...
But what I find strange is that you did not have that approach when itwa Bush declaring " misssion accomplished " ...
Seems that your beliefs are guided by your belonging to a faction ...:2 cents:

crockett 08-21-2011 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18369641)
People care about jobs and the economy.

Anything else is a distraction.

People aren't going to vote for someone because he approved a plan to sneak up on and shoot a terrorist.

People don't care about the nuances of Iraq or Afghanistan. Either we are there, or we aren't. Either wars are happening which we are a part of, or we aren't.

.
Funny because in the last election you know when Bush & co had already fucked our economy, it was a big deal then about would Obama keep the country secure. Little things like the Republicans fucking up the economy were second fiddle to things like big scary Russians that Palin could see from her window or evil terrorists that were going to come to America if we didn't build a wall.

Funny how "talking points" change to fit the current needs of the GOP from election to election depending what they happened to have fucked up on at the time.

Dvae 08-21-2011 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18369664)
It is too early to determine whether Obama's strategy in Libya has succeeded. Even if Qaddafi falls, the aftermath and what results will determine how it is viewed by history.
And anybody who thinks Qaddafi will go quietly into exile in some country is sadly mistaken?
Wherever he goes he will terrorize those countries who dropped bombs on him.

Can you say Panam Flight 103?

uno 08-21-2011 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18369413)
I guess you forgot he also got Bin Laden as it was Obama that made the call to send the troops in. Not to mention he did what he promised in Iraq by pulling out the bulk of the troops in Iraq. He also did what he promised in his campaign and put the focus on Afghan where it should of been from the start.

You don't have to like him or agree with him, but one thing he has done what he promised when it comes to the so called war on terror.
There's also the somali pirates, a start on healthcare, repeal of DADT, non-enforcement of DOMA, not letting us tumble into a depression, tax cuts for everyone, 2 supreme court nominees including the first latina Justice, the new START Treaty, expanded and extended children's healthcare, repealed the ban on funding for stem cell research, ended "enhanced interrogation techniques(torture), reformed credit card policies, saved the american auto industry and this is all just off the top of my head.

uno 08-21-2011 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18369625)
So by your "whoever is in office" logic, Obama is also responsible for our economic downfall? Or is this where the double standards come in?
That started before the election was even held. :eek7

Dvae 08-21-2011 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by uno (Post 18370205)
There's also the somali pirates, a start on healthcare, repeal of DADT, non-enforcement of DOMA, not letting us tumble into a depression, tax cuts for everyone, 2 supreme court nominees including the first latina Justice, the new START Treaty, expanded and extended children's healthcare, repealed the ban on funding for stem cell research, ended "enhanced interrogation techniques(torture), reformed credit card policies, saved the american auto industry and this is all just off the top of my head.
You forgot the new enhanced screening techniques for the TSA...

Lucy - CSC 08-21-2011 11:55 AM
http : // www . youtube. com/ watch?v=I7VzsYB07r4

Take out the spaces. Obamas is not doing this for the benefit of the American people or the Libyans. So whatever the outcome it is not good for the American people who will be picking up the bill.

uno 08-21-2011 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 18370214)
You forgot the new enhanced screening techniques for the TSA...
Free gropings for all!

BVF 08-21-2011 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18369625)
So by your "whoever is in office" logic, Obama is also responsible for our economic downfall? Or is this where the double standards come in?
Wrong...I go by the "whomever is in office when said action has been taken" logic....

Obama was probably not even born when the U.S. signed it's treaty with Isreal...Yet now he's in office he's enforcing it....So does he get credit for the treaty in the first place? Hell no.

Get it straight.

slavdogg 08-21-2011 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18369413)
I guess you forgot he also got Bin Laden as it was Obama that made the call to send the troops in. Not to mention he did what he promised in Iraq by pulling out the bulk of the troops in Iraq. He also did what he promised in his campaign and put the focus on Afghan where it should of been from the start.

You don't have to like him or agree with him, but one thing he has done what he promised when it comes to the so called war on terror.
it's the economy, stupid


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