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J. Falcon 08-22-2011 08:05 AM

I've followed the Libyan situation from the start. From what I understand, it started after the revolution in Egypt. During the first month or so there were only demonstrations (like you are seeing in Syria now), and the government/Quadaffi was killing protestors at random, because, like Syria, they would rather slaughter all their people before they give up power. It was a while before Nato got involved, and for all the idiots saying "where will the US strike next?" you should know that the United States was of the first counties that did not commit any forces in the beginning. Only then did the armed revolution begin. I'm positively sure Quadaffi would have killed all his people before giving up power.

There were also a lot of criticism that Nato did not get involved earlier.

femdomdestiny 08-22-2011 08:21 AM

And you are making your statement based on CNN or maybe you have someone there?Rebels with tanks and heavy artillery? what bothers me most is that some people still find excuse for invading countries on another continets. How states (US and NATO ) that killed millions of muslims worldwide actually care about same muslims in countries that actually have no economic problems but do have oil.

J. Falcon 08-22-2011 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 18371761)
And you are making your statement based on CNN or maybe you have someone there?Rebels with tanks and heavy artillery? what bothers me most is that some people still find excuse for invading countries on another continets. How states (US and NATO ) that killed millions of muslims worldwide actually care about same muslims in countries that actually have no economic problems but do have oil.


Yes, CNN and other news sources. As you may or nay not know, reporters were not allowed in Libya before. What we saw were homemade videos by people on the street, like we are seeing now in Syria, where reporters are also not allowed, of people being shot down in the street.

femdomdestiny 08-22-2011 09:04 AM

About people killed on the streets and other stuff. My uncle is renting apartment here for Lybian students so if they lie to us for all these years, I am lying to you also (really rich students actually, because government is paying everything they need ). About CNN: I am writing you from country that was satanized in same way when it was necessary for US to attack. Fake refugees, and refugee camps, fake happenings and wrong info. So many lies. Of course, same scenario,bombing of TV so other side can't say anything. Result, everything that was worth is now property of "western" countries, including communication,banking system,water,etc (public debt is bigger and bigger every year)...and we are talking about much less money involved then in Libya that has OIL.So it is simple,if you are already ignoring fact that NATO is killing millions worldwide (for their own good, I guess), do you really believe that someone is attacking that country to help people there? You really can stand in front of mirror and say, hell yeah. that's it...right thing to do, to help people by pushing them into war.

femdomdestiny 08-22-2011 09:27 AM

http://rt.com/news/tripoli-nato-guns...ournalist-623/

MetaMan 08-22-2011 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 18371720)
I've followed the Libyan situation from the start. From what I understand, it started after the revolution in Egypt. During the first month or so there were only demonstrations (like you are seeing in Syria now), and the government/Quadaffi was killing protestors at random, because, like Syria, they would rather slaughter all their people before they give up power. It was a while before Nato got involved, and for all the idiots saying "where will the US strike next?" you should know that the United States was of the first counties that did not commit any forces in the beginning. Only then did the armed revolution begin. I'm positively sure Quadaffi would have killed all his people before giving up power.

There were also a lot of criticism that Nato did not get involved earlier.

you're very brainwashed and really do not understand the situation. :2 cents:

porno jew 08-22-2011 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18370895)
The majority of the Libyan people support Ghadafi or at the very best don't support an armed uprising as the path to freedom.

that's funny. not everything you read on infowars is true you know.

JamesGw 08-22-2011 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18371907)
you're very brainwashed and really do not understand the situation. :2 cents:

Ad hominem fallacies aren't really a good way to get your point across.

CurrentlySober 08-22-2011 10:14 AM

I cant afford to have the War in Libya Over. :2 cents:

_Richard_ 08-22-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emil (Post 18371180)
Where will USA strike next?

syria?

8char

JFK 08-22-2011 10:56 AM

Fitty Defeats:pimp

J. Falcon 08-22-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18371907)
you're very brainwashed and really do not understand the situation. :2 cents:

Please enlighten me.

MetaMan 08-22-2011 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 18371720)
I've followed the Libyan situation from the start. From what I understand, it started after the revolution in Egypt. During the first month or so there were only demonstrations (like you are seeing in Syria now), and the government/Quadaffi was killing protestors at random, because, like Syria, they would rather slaughter all their people before they give up power. It was a while before Nato got involved, and for all the idiots saying "where will the US strike next?" you should know that the United States was of the first counties that did not commit any forces in the beginning. Only then did the armed revolution begin. I'm positively sure Quadaffi would have killed all his people before giving up power.

There were also a lot of criticism that Nato did not get involved earlier.

It has nothing to do with Egypt or Syria. Your thoughts on Egypt and Syria connecting are just like the Iraq/Afghanistan conflict. The media paints a certain picture to connect un related events.

The media has painted a picture about Quadaffi for years now. Just like they did with Sadaam.

The west wants to come in and force debt and seize control of the major resources away from the population.


Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 18371795)
Yes, CNN and other news sources. As you may or nay not know, reporters were not allowed in Libya before. What we saw were homemade videos by people on the street, like we are seeing now in Syria, where reporters are also not allowed, of people being shot down in the street.

"I'm positively sure Quadaffi would have killed all his people before giving up power." Reporters were not allowed in but you're somehow sure he would have killed his own people? Who and how what made you come to this conclusion?

Where are people being shot down in the street? All i saw was citizens holding up Green flags which are to support their leader. Who the majority of citizens support.

The wests use of media is highly specialized and extremely intelligent. They always create an external enemy so people are blinded to what is really going on. If the population constantly distracted with an outside enemy or fear then they will never revolt because they feel they need "protection".

Be it Sadaam, be it Al Qaeda be it Quadaffi. It is all the same.

Start watching movies on the Palestinian conflict (unrealted just suggesting) and then read on how CNN reports the conflict. It should help you wake up to the way they twist stories to always favor a certain timeline.

The people of Libya are not anti Quadaffi and just because the western media paints that on TV it does not make it truth.

How could anyone possibly think it is ok that this is happening? More wars, more deaths. for whos gain? to "liberate" the people? which people? and when did "the people" ever request to be liberated. Being liberated is not dropping bombs onto people. I can guarantee you they do not feel liberated.

It is another Iraq and Afghanistan on the way. The west gets to decide who the "right" opposition is. Because they fund this very opposition and all the other groups always turn out to be "terrorists".

MetaMan 08-22-2011 12:06 PM



here is a really good vid that may or may not change your views. but good information.

Deputy Chief Command 08-22-2011 05:43 PM

update: Rebels are lying about certain aspects of the "defeat" of Kadafi


Quote:

Just had face to face with Saif #Gadhafi - he said word of his detention was a trick by rebels. #cnn #libya
Quote:

Major PR coup for #Gadhafi ? if the rebels lied about this ? what can we believe? #cnn #libya #tripoli
from the twitter stream of a Cnn reporter holed up in the Rixos hotel in Tripoli

http://twitter.com/#!/mchancecnn/sta...842752/photo/1

pic of him with Kadafi's son!

marlboroack 08-22-2011 06:13 PM

Take him out Osama style

Lucy - CSC 08-22-2011 06:24 PM

http : // news.bbc. co.uk /1/hi/world/africa/7591458.stm

Why would Gadhafi kill his own people when he was going to give them all the revenue from the two new oil fields as he has been doing for years? It Libya education and health care are both free. One thing you can say about him is that he knows how to look after his people.

All the uprisings are CIA and Mossad supported and are not the people uprising at all.

This is theft of resources and enslavement into the zionist banking system.

porno jew 08-22-2011 08:59 PM

just because you are contrary does not mean you have found the "truth."

your brainwashing is more subtle - and more dangerous - than your average "sheeple."

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18372323)
It has nothing to do with Egypt or Syria. Your thoughts on Egypt and Syria connecting are just like the Iraq/Afghanistan conflict. The media paints a certain picture to connect un related events.

The media has painted a picture about Quadaffi for years now. Just like they did with Sadaam.

The west wants to come in and force debt and seize control of the major resources away from the population.




"I'm positively sure Quadaffi would have killed all his people before giving up power." Reporters were not allowed in but you're somehow sure he would have killed his own people? Who and how what made you come to this conclusion?

Where are people being shot down in the street? All i saw was citizens holding up Green flags which are to support their leader. Who the majority of citizens support.

The wests use of media is highly specialized and extremely intelligent. They always create an external enemy so people are blinded to what is really going on. If the population constantly distracted with an outside enemy or fear then they will never revolt because they feel they need "protection".

Be it Sadaam, be it Al Qaeda be it Quadaffi. It is all the same.

Start watching movies on the Palestinian conflict (unrealted just suggesting) and then read on how CNN reports the conflict. It should help you wake up to the way they twist stories to always favor a certain timeline.

The people of Libya are not anti Quadaffi and just because the western media paints that on TV it does not make it truth.

How could anyone possibly think it is ok that this is happening? More wars, more deaths. for whos gain? to "liberate" the people? which people? and when did "the people" ever request to be liberated. Being liberated is not dropping bombs onto people. I can guarantee you they do not feel liberated.

It is another Iraq and Afghanistan on the way. The west gets to decide who the "right" opposition is. Because they fund this very opposition and all the other groups always turn out to be "terrorists".


MetaMan 08-22-2011 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18373410)
just because you are contrary does not mean you have found the "truth."

your brainwashing is more subtle - and more dangerous - than your average "sheeple."

Where do I claim to have truth? You offer no valid points in the entire thread.

And somehow you have the truth? That to me is funny. You scream Zionist. So it is pretty obvious you would be pro anything "kill brown people".

I would rather view both sides of a story and draw my own conclusions rather than have the news tell me what to think.

directfiesta 08-22-2011 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 18373128)
update: Rebels are lying about certain aspects of the "defeat" of Kadafi






from the twitter stream of a Cnn reporter holed up in the Rixos hotel in Tripoli

http://twitter.com/#!/mchancecnn/sta...842752/photo/1

pic of him with Kadafi's son!

That is not possible !!!!

J.Falcon said there were no reporters in Libya, because they were not allowed ...
Tough he did not back up his claim, I believe him .. because .. he is J.Falcon and ... that ... euhh ... Kadaffi is a bad men ... :2 cents:

porno jew 08-22-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18373427)
Where do I claim to have truth? You offer no valid points in the entire thread.

And somehow you have the truth? That to me is funny. You scream Zionist. So it is pretty obvious you would be pro anything "kill brown people".

I would rather view both sides of a story and draw my own conclusions rather than have the news tell me what to think.

you are projecting.

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