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BlackCrayon 08-31-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 18392418)
Ban weed ban alcohol BAN IT ALL... its all evil and a drain on society They should behead any drug dealers for tax fraud and all users should be sent to hard labour for helping defraud the gov taxes

you trollin? the government is part of the largest drug ring in the world. the legal perscription drug trade. they are drugging your children, among many others but of course you have no problem with that.

halfpint 08-31-2011 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18392495)
you trollin? the government is part of the largest drug ring in the world. the legal perscription drug trade. they are drugging your children, among many others but of course you have no problem with that.

I never troll Down with dealers and users :mad: ...Gov never lie to us

halfpint 08-31-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 18392463)
ROFL, Nothing, and I repeat nothing is more of a "evil and a drain on society" than Religion. If you wanna dumb down that route.

I can understand your option on weed and alcohol since your clearly are some dumb fox news viewer, but please, pick up a book, and read it.

People need there relax'ers, pure and simple.

Now if you wanna discuss about what should happen to "real" drugs being sold that ruin Families and create crime then by all means, lets lock up the coke dealer, H dealers, Meth dealers and soo on. But its completely ridiculous to go after something innocent like weed and alcohol.
Taking a responsible amount of a very unharmful drug toward others outside of oneself is not worth crying to the world like its the end of the world.



Religion rocks :thumbsup

moeloubani 08-31-2011 01:48 PM

i could understand that if they banned alcohol...i would much rather people were not allowed to do something that made them violent and lose all inhibitions than smoke weed and giggle and maybe laugh a little

MediaGuy 08-31-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18392390)
just how much taxes are YOU comfortable with paying to pay for all this welfare you want the government to hand out?

forget about the socialist attack on the oil companies and the rich, that's not the point - the important part is you want the average hard working Canadian taxpayer to pay for everybody else's childcare and womens advocacy programs and god knows what else.

"socialist" attack on oil companies? How about the oil companies' attacks on coastlines environment? People at the expense of profits is ok?

You're ok with these people paying less tax than you, and then having the government bust unions or cut social security programs, things that pay for themselves and are voluntary?

Yeah, I want every child in the country to get a basic level of health care, whether or not the parents can afford it.

When our government stops rewarding companies that ship jobs and production to other countries, maybe the social programs that do come out of pocket won't be necessary.

But if the squeeze continues, you'll get more poor, jobless, hungry, desperate people out there either ready to explode like they have been in many other countries, or preying in our parks turning our neighbourhoods into 'hoods.

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18392390)
you're a complete socialist.

"complete" is a little strong, I'd have to check out the definition. But socialistic? Definitely.

I think ideally it should be a balance between socialistic and capitalistic systems, one tempering the other.

garce 08-31-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 18392290)
This is stupid, anyone here thinks that weed is any worse the alcohol you should get your head examined and if a law is more important than simple freedoms then something else is wrong. Everything retaining to marijuana should be decriminalized. Srew what our neighbosr think on that subject. Let the Americans sleep in there own bed on that one. Lets not follow them!

Seriously? Its not for smoking weed or having a bit on you. Its to prevent grow houses and selling dope to (or near) minors. WTF? I personally think the sentences should be way the fuck harsher than they're proposing. A LOT of homes have been destroyed near where I live - and many industrial units, as well - because some asshole leased the property for the sole purpose of having an urban greenhouse to grow their cash crops.

Living in B.C., you should have a clue about the damage grow houses cause not only to the property owners, but their neighbours and community.

You want to grow some pot? Fine, have a few plants for personal use. Wanna sell some to your friends? Make sure they're adults and don't do it near a school.

d-null 08-31-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 18392456)
6 plants..

Let me show you six plants.

...

Sound like a lot of work? It is.. And so you want to have more than 6 plants to make it worthwhile (even if you're keeping it for yourself).

yes, but if you do it all right and optimize for the method of running max 5 plants, you could easily figure it out to produce a few pounds a year which would be much more than enough for one person even if they are a very heavy toker :2 cents:

HighlyIntoxicated 08-31-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by My Pimp (Post 18391831)
I do not like marijuana. I know some teenagers can deal with it, but others not. They get so aggressive.



not sure if trolling or you're fucking retarded. weed does not make people aggressive, alcohol does, and that's perfectly legal.

directfiesta 08-31-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18392943)
yes, but if you do it all right and optimize for the method of running max 5 plants, you could easily figure it out to produce a few pounds a year which would be much more than enough for one person even if they are a very heavy toker :2 cents:

Know of any one producing alchool in their basement ???

Legalize the shit ! = no more organized crime , no more petty crime ...

BTW, I do not smoke weed, but I do enjoy a nice glass of Beaujolais !

d-null 08-31-2011 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 18393002)
Know of any one producing alchool in their basement ???

Legalize the shit ! = no more organized crime , no more petty crime ...

BTW, I do not smoke weed, but I do enjoy a nice glass of Beaujolais !

I agree with you on that, but politically that is probably still a ways away

HighlyIntoxicated 08-31-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18391970)

No one on this planet needs 6 plants or more to help supplement their 'medical use' needs. If they have 6 or more they are selling something that is illegal. Setting a mandatory is an obvious move, and 6 months is nothing compared to the US so the comparison is ludicrous.


you have no idea what you are talking about. My brother is a licensed medical marijuana growers in Canada, and his prescription gives him the ability to grow 16 plants for personal use.

Best-In-BC 09-01-2011 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by garce (Post 18392747)
Seriously? Its not for smoking weed or having a bit on you. Its to prevent grow houses and selling dope to (or near) minors. WTF? I personally think the sentences should be way the fuck harsher than they're proposing. A LOT of homes have been destroyed near where I live - and many industrial units, as well - because some asshole leased the property for the sole purpose of having an urban greenhouse to grow their cash crops.

Living in B.C., you should have a clue about the damage grow houses cause not only to the property owners, but their neighbours and community.

You want to grow some pot? Fine, have a few plants for personal use. Wanna sell some to your friends? Make sure they're adults and don't do it near a school.

My point only is, if we can all just look at America for one minutes we'll see that tuff laws dont work, in fact, Crime Rates will Sky Rocket. Anyone Please, Prove me Wrong on That!

Putting pressure on dessprit people is a dumb idea. Not saying what there doing is right. Just saying what we're planing on doing is what America has done and its destroying them.

Now yes, you damn right I live in BC :) if they just decriminalize and make it illegal to grow in your home if you dont own in then fine. Keep the rest of the laws pertaining to minors and grow house. Most people who grow here dont use the hole house, they will use a room or something. I think if BC did this you would see less Violence.

Now I think weed should be brought up to age 21 to posses. No charges for being underage and holding, but put a community service or something like that mandatory for them.

Best-In-BC 09-01-2011 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HighlyIntoxicated (Post 18393001)
not sure if trolling or you're fucking retarded. weed does not make people aggressive, alcohol does, and that's perfectly legal.

Yeah, guys a idiot

Best-In-BC 09-01-2011 06:41 AM

New Laws Dont Solve Problems, 99% Of The Time Now They Just Compound On It

Sid70 09-01-2011 09:06 AM

Alan Harper, Charlie Harper, now this Harper - 3 and 1/2 men!

CDSmith 09-01-2011 09:53 AM

I'm all for getting tougher on crime and harsher penalties. Sorry.

Not really a fan of Harper either, have never voted for him to be honest, but he did say years ago as part of his platform that he was going to get tougher on crime and this is part of it I suppose.

Potheads may *want* it to be legal, and cops do seem to look the other way when only a few plants or a couple of joints are present, but the fact is larger amounts of weed and selling to underage types is not legal, period.

This is just one step though. I'm more interested in what Harper does (if anything) with regard to young offenders, underage repeat car thieves for example. And pretty much anyone that thinks they can just do whatever they want and get away with it, like those who do B & E's one after the other, or morons who spraypaint other people's shit, etc, gang pukes who think it's okay to open fire whenever they please and WHEREVER they please. And on and on and on.

Personally I say round them all up and shoot em, but I guess I'll have to settle for whatever "harsher penalties" the Harper gov't can come up with. Still waiting on those though.

I couldn't care less if he has buddies who stand to profit from larger prisons, btw.

MrBottomTooth 09-01-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 18395716)
Honestly, I see nothing wrong with that. There are stiff penalties for selling tobacco to minors, why should the law be lenient for selling a controlled substance?

It varies from province to province, but in bc as an example selling cigs to a minor is a 575 dollar fine.

BlackCrayon 09-01-2011 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 18395716)
Honestly, I see nothing wrong with that. There are stiff penalties for selling tobacco to minors, why should the law be lenient for selling a controlled substance?

Like I said previously, an 18 year old selling to a 17 year old would have the same 2 year mandatory minimum as a 52 year old selling to a 10 year old. Someone else commented that they can make exceptions for an 18 year old selling to a 17 year old but with mandatory minimums, you can't. thats why they are called mandatory. in effect it says judges are not doing their jobs, they are being too easy on people so these mandatory minimums are needed.

BlackCrayon 09-01-2011 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 18395943)
I'm all for getting tougher on crime and harsher penalties. Sorry.

Not really a fan of Harper either, have never voted for him to be honest, but he did say years ago as part of his platform that he was going to get tougher on crime and this is part of it I suppose.

Potheads may *want* it to be legal, and cops do seem to look the other way when only a few plants or a couple of joints are present, but the fact is larger amounts of weed and selling to underage types is not legal, period.

This is just one step though. I'm more interested in what Harper does (if anything) with regard to young offenders, underage repeat car thieves for example. And pretty much anyone that thinks they can just do whatever they want and get away with it, like those who do B & E's one after the other, or morons who spraypaint other people's shit, etc, gang pukes who think it's okay to open fire whenever they please and WHEREVER they please. And on and on and on.

Personally I say round them all up and shoot em, but I guess I'll have to settle for whatever "harsher penalties" the Harper gov't can come up with. Still waiting on those though.

I couldn't care less if he has buddies who stand to profit from larger prisons, btw.

The biggest problem with young offenders is the home environment they are living in. I think parents need to be held a bit more responsible in how they are raising their kids. keeping kids locked up instead of trying to get them the help they need only creates another generation of life long criminals.

_Richard_ 09-01-2011 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 18395943)
I'm all for getting tougher on crime and harsher penalties. Sorry.

Not really a fan of Harper either, have never voted for him to be honest, but he did say years ago as part of his platform that he was going to get tougher on crime and this is part of it I suppose.

Potheads may *want* it to be legal, and cops do seem to look the other way when only a few plants or a couple of joints are present, but the fact is larger amounts of weed and selling to underage types is not legal, period.

This is just one step though. I'm more interested in what Harper does (if anything) with regard to young offenders, underage repeat car thieves for example. And pretty much anyone that thinks they can just do whatever they want and get away with it, like those who do B & E's one after the other, or morons who spraypaint other people's shit, etc, gang pukes who think it's okay to open fire whenever they please and WHEREVER they please. And on and on and on.

Personally I say round them all up and shoot em, but I guess I'll have to settle for whatever "harsher penalties" the Harper gov't can come up with. Still waiting on those though.

I couldn't care less if he has buddies who stand to profit from larger prisons, btw.

so you're saying you want to round up all the gangbangers, murders, car thieves, graffiti artists, and 'young offenders', and shoot them?

ignoring that disturbing opinion, with minimum sentencing, how many world famous artists have risen from just starting to 'tag other peoples property'

is canada going to be the country that throws banksy in jail for 5 years?

Best-In-BC 09-01-2011 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 18395664)
Alan Harper, Charlie Harper, now this Harper - 3 and 1/2 men!

ROFL, Nice Connection ;)


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