Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18403788)

mynameisjim... from my perspective it would seem that "yes" we do need to help some folks who genuinely can not work.

But I don't see it as a "burden" to require able bodied people to pay for their own food and medical care. I can see it as something that our country has tried to do. But if we can't do it anymore I don't think it is a "burden" to them. It's their responsibility to take care of themselves. I'm not on this Earth to pay other people's bills for them. I'm here to take care of MY family.

Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 18403758)

I'm not going to argue the details anymore because the whole underlying concept is so ludicrous. Why on Earth would anyone believe that you can make a country great by further burdening the poor, the people with the least to give. All this talk of eliminating the minimum wage, drug testing those on food stamps, busting unions, cutting medicaid, they are all aimed at further burdening the poor. How do you make a country great by burdening the most disadvantaged among us even more than they already are?

Don't people realize what is happening, the super wealthy banks totally gutted the middle class of all it's value. They took the money, went out of business, then took the tax payers money to prop themselves back up. Now the super wealthy want to go after the poor, but the poor have nothing, so they are going after all the social programs they depend on. First they totally extracted all the money from the middle class and now they are going after the poor.

If you believe that further burdening the poor will make America great again then you are either:

a) Mr. Burns

or

b) have fallen for the right wing rhetoric that says that all the problems faced by this country are caused by the poor and all the solutions can only be carried out by catering to the wealthy.

Originally Posted by tiger (Post 18403861)

Productivity is up, wages are down, corp profits at all time highs. They will hire when their workforce can't meet demand, its pretty simple really.

Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18404355)

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18404270)

Technology alone has killed millions of jobs. IMO the main reason manufacturing jobs move overseas is because it's not skilled labor. If you're working a factory line doing the same thing thousands a times a day, wanting yearly pay increases and benefits, can you really blame companies for moving?

Or the people who complain about illegals taking jobs. People need a reality check, if an illegal can come to this country, not speak the language, with ZERO US education, work harder, and take your job, who's fault is it really?

Americans haven't a clue on how good we truly have it. It's simple for Americans to come up with an idea, pay a small fee for a business license and open shop. Try this in Russia or China, they'll let you setup/build, but the second you turn a profit they'll clamp down in a heartbeat because your competition paid off or knows the right person.

WTS, you also get what you pay for because China and India are having huge labor problems because they work like drones. Meaning, the American labor markets naturally think how to innovate things or take pride in explaining a faster or more productive way to improve products or service. Even when employed by another.

Not there, because they'll never speak out, benefit, or climb the company latter because of their heavy cast system. You can have the best education in the world, but it means fuck all until you get your hands dirty causing thought for innovation.

The best thing for unemployment right now is for the Government to inject small capital loans for small business or at least wave all company taxes for 3 years. If they did this there will be a wave of new innovation creating new markets and employment. What most people don't know is 50% of all the successful companies on the stock market were started by people with a year of college or less with an average IQ of 100.

Anyway, this will never happen because getting money from the Government is a bureaucratic red tape nightmare, the gov clowns monitoring the loans are unqualified or they wouldn't be working for the government, and followed by rampant corruption.

In short, there is no solution and my honest opinion is let it all crash and burn as we Americans will learn to stop voting for posers and be grateful for the things we have rather then the things we don't or others have. Meaning, we are well past needed tough love.

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18405438)

Where are the shovel ready jobs?

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18404372)

So just to be clear, hiring illegal labor is your solution for rebuilding the US jobs problem?