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Diomed 09-17-2011 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 18433113)
The T3i does have an auto-focus feature but it's nothing like you're used to using on a typical video camera. Basically, you compose your image looking at the LCD screen on the back. On the LCD screen there is a little box that you can move around the frame. You move that box to what you want to focus on, then push a button and the camera will focus on that spot. It'll hunt around a bit before it locks down on focus. To focus on another area, move the box to that area, push down the button and the camera will re-focus to that spot. It's not smooth and it's not pretty. You'll definitely have to cut out that part of your footage. I've found it faster to just focus manually.

As I mentioned before, shooting with DSLR is nothing like shooting with a traditional video camera :)

Thanks again Dean,

some of my other video cameras have spot focus so I'm familiar with it.

What are your views on the Canon Vixia, if any? I've seen some incredible looking stuff come out of those things.. but I'm worried about low light. I hear the G10 is killing it.

Diomed 09-18-2011 05:52 PM

Ok,

so Tuesday I am making the purchase final and I'll stop chipping away at this thread.

It's still down to a dedicated Vixia (unsure which model is ideal yet) or the T3i with a couple of essential lenses.

I think after the lenses and everything with the T3i I will be looking at around $1100, and that is what I really want to spend.. Around a grand or less for a good learning curve camera. The Vixia HF G10 is about $1500, and I hear great things about it.

I know the quality is unbeatable on the T3i for this price range, but I'm unsure of it's practicality.

Anyone got some hands on knowledge about the Vixia range?

candyflip 09-18-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18432333)
that's a great price... the matt box and rails for the sony nex fs1100 was comming in at 2K

This company should have something for the fs100. I can add longer rails, so this may work already.

Sexier 09-19-2011 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Diomed (Post 18432097)
Yeah,

I was reading about this last night. Apparently you have to get it before 2010 though, because they rectified it.

But I saw some of the video from it, fucking amazing.


GH1 and GH2 can be hacked, I paid for mine $950 Dollars with 14-42 kit lens. video way better then my canon 60D. Photo quality canon beats GH2 but for video with the hack applied none of the canons beat the GH2

shimmy2 09-19-2011 05:52 AM

i have the t3i and honestly i miss my GL1 minus the hassle of tapes. i think you're better off with a dedicated video camera i dont recommend it for starters. you will need a wide angle lens if you do pov also, they can be had cheap on ebay under 30 bucks or so but the AF is a pain i'm not used to hassling with. try fiddling around making sure everything is in focus while youre fucking. you will need both hands to operate this camera so if youre into tittygrabbing or asssmacking forget about it for your POV vids

candyflip 09-19-2011 05:59 AM

Here's a cheap solution for follow focusing on your DSLR. Pretty simple and ingenious. I have one and it works as advertised.

http://www.dslrsolutions.net

Grapesoda 09-19-2011 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Diomed (Post 18432105)
It's weird how it happens when your buying something,

first your going to spend $800, then it turns to $1000.. then you find yourself contemplating $1500 models.

DAMN.

no kidding :(

Grapesoda 09-19-2011 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18436798)
Here's a cheap solution for follow focusing on your DSLR. Pretty simple and ingenious. I have one and it works as advertised.

http://www.dslrsolutions.net

that's great :thumbsup

candyflip 09-19-2011 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18436807)
that's great :thumbsup

The first time I saw it, it was one of those "Duh, why the fuck didn't I think of that" moments.

It's really useful when I don't feel like running putting the cam in the rig.

Grapesoda 09-19-2011 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18436809)
The first time I saw it, it was one of those "Duh, why the fuck didn't I think of that" moments.

It's really useful when I don't feel like running putting the cam in the rig.

my work flow doesn't really have room for manuel focus but still it's very cool indeed. vid cans will catch up in a few years after the RD is paid for. the nex fs100 is basically a DSLR in a video cam body...

candyflip 09-19-2011 06:35 AM

I can't wait for my FS100. I have actually be toying with the idea of buying one now and just selling the one I get when it arrives.

I don't really have much patience, especially when it comes to new gear.

Grapesoda 09-19-2011 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18436847)
I can't wait for my FS100. I have actually be toying with the idea of buying one now and just selling the one I get when it arrives.

I don't really have much patience, especially when it comes to new gear.

this is working for now:

http://www.strangebabes.com/set0.jpg

DeanCapture 09-19-2011 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18436798)
Here's a cheap solution for follow focusing on your DSLR. Pretty simple and ingenious. I have one and it works as advertised.

http://www.dslrsolutions.net

We bought this as well and enjoy it :thumbsup

candyflip 09-19-2011 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 18437069)
We bought this as well and enjoy it :thumbsup

Looks like he's building quite a following if students and pros alike are snatching them up.

$89 for the set was a great deal.

Diomed 09-19-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 18436552)
GH1 and GH2 can be hacked, I paid for mine $950 Dollars with 14-42 kit lens. video way better then my canon 60D. Photo quality canon beats GH2 but for video with the hack applied none of the canons beat the GH2

Yes,

this does loom in my mind. Seems like a bit of trouble.

Probably clever of me to save that purchase for the near future once I learn a bit through a couple other devices like the new vixia g10 or the t3i.

Diomed 09-19-2011 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 18436786)
i have the t3i and honestly i miss my GL1 minus the hassle of tapes. i think you're better off with a dedicated video camera i dont recommend it for starters. you will need a wide angle lens if you do pov also, they can be had cheap on ebay under 30 bucks or so but the AF is a pain i'm not used to hassling with. try fiddling around making sure everything is in focus while youre fucking. you will need both hands to operate this camera so if youre into tittygrabbing or asssmacking forget about it for your POV vids

I like you Shimmy, full of advice and willingness to share knowledge :thumbsup

Thanks for the good advice fella, think I'm going with the Vixia G10 for the learning curve, after I heard about it's brand new low light performance chip.

Diomed 09-19-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18436798)
Here's a cheap solution for follow focusing on your DSLR. Pretty simple and ingenious. I have one and it works as advertised.

http://www.dslrsolutions.net

Thanks man,

I'm bookmarking all these gold tips of yours. It truly is appreciated.

Looks like you've been having a serious crack at things.

Diomed 09-19-2011 04:42 PM

To all those who have given me such sound advice and been so helpful,

thankyou :thumbsup

I know I kind of hi-jacked this thread, but at least it sent me into the purchase of a new learning curve camera.

I will definitely be getting the T3i DSLR, and also in future a GH (hopefully I can figure out the hack) I say all within another 6 months to a year.

But for now,

I chose the Canon Vixia HF G10 dedicated video camera for the learning curve, MAINLY because of the new image sensor that is said to be the best in the business at lowlight (and that is one of my main points for buying a new piece).

I will shoot some footage once I get the hang of it and upload it for a couple to check out.. ordered it from 6ave.com , got one of the last in stock at $1300.

Something I found along the way is the Canon Vixia HF M40 for $560 at 6ave.com (THIS IS A MAJOR FUCKING STEAL) some people should consider it for a backup. I might get one in future at that price.

Thanks again to everywhere, will be keeping you posted.

Young 09-19-2011 04:53 PM

Canon has a huge announcement in the video department in November.

mOrrI 09-19-2011 05:05 PM

I got a Cannon 60D it's pretty nice... :D

Young 09-19-2011 05:25 PM

100 camera recs

Grapesoda 09-19-2011 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 18438197)
Canon has a huge announcement in the video department in November.

that should be very interesting... looking forward to that one

icymelon 09-19-2011 06:45 PM

yeah cant wait to hear the nov announcement. current lineup will obviously be cheaper. but how can they improve?

EukerVoorn 09-19-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeBank_Adam (Post 18417414)
Would you happen to have any video samples taken with the t3i?

Guys, I jumped into DSLR video about one year ago. The best cam is the Panasonic GH2, for various reasons. I bought the Panasonic AF100 pro DLSR cam but sold it again because the image of the GH2 is much better. I also use the Canon 7D which has good image quality but also the 12 minute clip duration limit and moire. I don't have any video experience with Nikon cams even though Nikon is my prefered brand for shooting stills. Using lens adapters I use my Nikon mount lenses on my GH2. It's a great development!

For samples of all these cameras check out www vimeo com (which is a bit like youtube but more "pro")

EukerVoorn 09-19-2011 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18418326)
that's great stuff for sure... the issue for me is shooting sex... that cam was great for long shot lock offs and pans but not so sure it will handel the riggers of sex shooting, closeups, etc and hold the focus... asa matter of fact I saw soft focus in that vid... we can say 'well it's art... ' my clients don't really want art.

This is true, the closer you get to your subject (either fysically or by zooming) the shallower your depth of field. You can solve this by using a lot of light so that you can shoot with f8 or smaller @ ISO200. At f8 your DOF is "usable". Holding focus is easy when using a mechanical follow focus. Or use the Panasonic GH2 which has great "push focus".

I've been shooting porn using DSLRs for one year now and yes at first I had a lot of out of focus shots (what you call soft-focus) but now after the endurance I come home with great shots.

Grapesoda 09-19-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18438365)
This is true, the closer you get to your subject (either fysically or by zooming) the shallower your depth of field. You can solve this by using a lot of light so that you can shoot with f8 or smaller @ ISO200. At f8 your DOF is "usable". Holding focus is easy when using a mechanical follow focus. Or use the Panasonic GH2 which has great "push focus".

I've been shooting porn using DSLRs for one year now and yes at first I had a lot of out of focus shots (what you call soft-focus) but now after the endurance I come home with great shots.

have plenty of light and that's a fact... lets talk about this: sell at bmbhome. com

EukerVoorn 09-19-2011 07:35 PM

Here's some GH2 samples, it's very extreme porn but try paying attention to the image quality and ignore the disgusting action (the shot with the girl stabbing herself is special effect, she didn't really die): www femania com / videos

candyflip 09-20-2011 06:09 PM

Not sure if you went out and ordered one yet, but there's a great deal for the t3i on Slickdeals today. It's on eBay.

Body, 3 lenses (including the 50 f/1.8), 16gb SD and a few other things for $999

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-Di...#ht_7706wt_936

leg4 09-21-2011 10:52 PM

Can't believe that Canon 1.2 lens is so damn expensive!

leg4 09-21-2011 10:53 PM

That's a fabulous price.



Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18440588)
Not sure if you went out and ordered one yet, but there's a great deal for the t3i on Slickdeals today. It's on eBay.

Body, 3 lenses (including the 50 f/1.8), 16gb SD and a few other things for $999

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-Di...#ht_7706wt_936


candyflip 09-22-2011 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by leg4 (Post 18443207)
That's a fabulous price.

You bet it is. The body and kit lens alone are usually that price.

shimmy2 09-22-2011 09:01 AM

i bought the t3i 18-55 kit for around 800. buy a 10% of best buy coupon on ebay for a buck then take it to the store, save $90... then you actually have some warranty recourse should you break the thang and you will be for sure not getting a "grey market" camera that will not be honored for warranty work (this happen with me before back when i buy nikons online cheap... DONT DO IT if you buy new equipment get it at a real chain store)

icymelon 10-18-2011 02:54 PM

I read that max file size is 4GB. How many minutes of video is that at highest quality settings?

leg4 11-08-2011 10:56 PM

Now I'm looking at that Panasonic GH2... does anyone have any more input on this specific cam?

I'm hearing amazing things.

Diomed 11-08-2011 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18440588)
Not sure if you went out and ordered one yet, but there's a great deal for the t3i on Slickdeals today. It's on eBay.

Body, 3 lenses (including the 50 f/1.8), 16gb SD and a few other things for $999

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-Di...#ht_7706wt_936

Always good info CandyFlip.

But I already popped on the Canon Vixia HF G10. I opted for this instead of the T3i mainly because of the new sensor and low light performance.

I have been exploring it the past week as I just now had time to get around to it. It is incredible for the price, I can honestly say. The low light performance is ideal for what I'm trying to capture at night.

Now I'm wondering about additional lenses and other professional effects I can get from it, I know a lot can be done in post.

Any ideas or tricks/lenses/editing tips to make it look more filmish? This is what I'm exploring now. Got vegas, and another tool I forget the name of.. Going to start experimenting.

leg4 12-12-2011 05:36 AM

We decided to go with the Canon t3i ---- kit lens
+ the 50mm 1.8 lens

3 days shooting with it... so far, I'm liking it a lot.


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