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just take more drugs

Nathan: I think it's your TONE that people are having issues with here. Whether something is liable or not is a legal distinction, one not to be settled here. However, your cavalier attitude, then justifying it by pointing fingers, is painting you as something less than professional, mean-spirited and cocky. Now I assume you are none of these things but I would think being nothing but sympathetic - REGARDLESS of what "the truth" may be, or what liability there is - would be the smart PR move, no?

MisterPeabody,

absolutely. And we are looking into it. But I do not post this here, why would I? It's much more fun to aggravate ADG...

Seriously though, this is between the producer and the talent, and somewhat also us in extension from the producer. And it is being dealt with. It has nothing to do on a board with half-truths and misinformation by people like ADG just because they do not like me...

I heard of this recently since, as she herself said, she did not talk about it to anyone until it was posted on MikeSouth. These kinds of things are handled internally, and do not have usually get touched by me.

Loud Noises!!!

must of been at Easter:winkwink:

Everything that happens during shoot is ultimately the responsibility of the producer. So producers MUST have liability insurance to protect themselves, and their cast and crew in case of accident. There's a thread on another board that claims the producer in this case was uninsured. Which, if true, is stupid because liability insurance is pretty cheap for the amount of coverage given.

In the 13 years that I've been shooting, only one client (for custom video) and one location demanded to see my certificate of insurance before working with me.

Take a break, ice her leg down, give her a hug.

this thread has certainly been educational

Let's see, I quoted you verbatim in my last two posts, so I guess that means that if there are half-truths and misinformation, it originated from you. :1orglaugh

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It apparently impressed GoGo....
Got to hand it to him though it is impressive when you think about it.

In my opinion theres no better place to work prior to Manwin than one that has access to everyones entire business plan.
Again in my opinion .... when you think about it - its genius... before you hatch a plan to swipe content and profit on it you first learn your competitors monthly income, best traffic sources and hell their best customers.

In my opinion that would allow you to know who to take from both as in whats the most profitable as well as who would have the income to put up a legal defense.

So you are saying.... in you opinion that the information learned from being a NATS Programmer/employee/owner and the stats that gives you access to was very beneficial for later business deals.

One thing I find interesting is I have never seen John comment about Fabian, good or bad (at all) since he left Nats. I wonder what stories these guys could tell about each other.

Was Fabian partners with John when they had porn graph ??

When you go from programmer Geek taking orders from John Albright to being put in charge of a 100M porn empire, you can see how it can go to someone's head and they can parade around like they are the shit now because they can throw someone else's money around. Clearly, no other *owner* of a porn empire with hundreds of millions would be on GFY slugging it out with us trolls over trivial stuff like a model getting a little burn on her leg from a tail pipe at a porn shot from a company that was contracted by manwin, not even owned by them. That, more than other reason (and there are several) are why I think Fabian is just a front guy who got back by some big money guys who didn't want to have their name tied to anything.

Do forget this is the guy who hired Bob Rice as "Virage Media Limited as VP of Acquisitions and Mergers" then later said Bob Rice never worked for him and they just made that up. But yet there were press releases and several posts made about it.


But yet Fabian just said recently:


LOL caught in another lie Fabian. Now you say "an outside consultant" but yet your own press releases said he was hired for an " executive position with Virage Media Limited as the VP of Acquisitions and Mergers.." lol = "outside consultant" worker.... lol niggga please. That lie is as bad as the one that you own Manwin and all of its properties as the sole, or even primary owner.

but I like to run my mouth and post about these issues on GFY when the occasion arises...


lol what a joke this guy is.

Cant we all just get along?

I propose that I am given whatever title is necessary to take the flack for those who are being given said flack.

That would solve the problem at hand.

Make me CEO or something and I willingly will face the brunt of any and all shitstorms that said company may face.

Contact in sig.

I still do not know why they continue to hire directors or producers that put themselves in harms ways,,,, any sensible person would of sought medical help, johnny thrust is not a pro and never will be.... I smell lawsuit...

NO , sorry we cant get along, it wouldnt be gfy if we did:winkwink:

Im quoting Mike AI when I say "Being indignant is the last refuge of a cockholser".

I wonder what Gary or Rick think about Assclown Bob Rice claiming he was the former owner of Ynot?

In my opinion the only thing Assclown Bob Rice "owned" was the bank account.

Quick someone save Manwin from the rogue director.... this sounds like a job for
Mr. Extreme... wonder if Fabian will loan him his scarf?

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/M...uYmbIvYlrl.jpg

Sometimes there are more than two versions to a story

Kelly's side which you read

Johnny's side which he came by and told me today

And somewhere in the middle what I recall.

In any event I am sure that this will be worked out shortly.

Just seen a few morons quoting the truth,

"I've been telling you traffic isn't king. And getting it is the easiest job in porn"
Paul (the Allmighty) Markham, 2011

The problem isn't getting traffic, it's converting it. You need 1,000s to get a sale. And 1,000s come.

Getting the 100,000s needed to make a decent living is the problem.

Thanks for quoting me telling the truth.

So we have 20 minutes.... wanna cyber?

God you are a moron and know absolutely nothing about traffic. First of all talking about "traffic" in general is just plain retarded without knowing the quality of the traffic. For you to say "getting the 100,000s needed to make decent living is the problem" is par for the course for you. It's not hard to get 100K hits and you can still make shit from it if the traffic sucks.

Your original quote saying traffic is not king is bullshit. Traffic is king, but it's quality traffic, not trash traffic.

Your comments here saying if you can get 100K's of traffic you can make a living is more bullshit, if the that traffic sucks you aint making dick.

Stick to shooting content and talk about stuff that you at least know a little bit about. :2 cents:

That last photo...

Why?

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200 cookies for me and a giant shemale dick

Had to lighten the mood

I've never met Johnny Thrust, so after reading the negative comments about him in this thread, I was curious to know who this guy is that Brazzers / Manwin hires, instructs, and entrusts to direct movies for them.

I thought maybe Thrust was a noob considering the comedy of errors on his set for Brazzers / Manwin.

A Google search brought up two performers named Johnny Thrust.

One is a gay performer, and the other straight, so I am assuming that the straight Johnny Thrust is the one that Brazzers / Manwin employed:

http://www.iafd.com/graphics/headsho..._m_jthrust.jpg
Johnny Thrust

I know that I have seen this guy in some video scenes before, although nothing memorable about his performances stands out.

When I looked at his bio, it indicated that Johnny Thrust has been in the adult industry since 1995 (15+ years), working in hundreds of scenes as a performer, PA, and occasionally as a Director, making it even more inexplicable that he would expose himself and possibly Brazzers / Manwin to liability due to gross negligence.

However, after reading more about Johnny Thrust online, I am honestly surprised that Brazzers / Manwin would hire him as a Director in the first place - he comes off badly in the infamous Tanner Mayes BTS meltdown video, demonstrating a level of unprofessionalism that I have rarely seen before (the performer's condition and attitude notwithstanding):



After viewing Thrust's inability to professionally manage that situation on set (he made a bad situation worse), it is not difficult to see how things went so badly at the Brazzers / Manwin shoot, in which a performer he was directing for Brazzers / Manwin was injured, and then was allegedly not provided proper medical care.

Being a Director carries a lot more responsibility than being a mope in porn scenes (Thrust is frequently cast as a sleazeball/loser type - not a big acting stretch from what I can tell).

BTW, Tanner clearly appeared to be drunk or on drugs in the video too. This is confirmed in a subsequent interview with Tanner in which she states, "I was also on xanax and had been drinking on set".

One of the crew even later admitted that Tanner had been provided with alcohol, using the following as rationale:

NOTE: Tanner Mayes was NOT of legal drinking age (21) at the time. Furnishing alcohol to minors is illegal in California.

In her condition, she would never have even been allowed on my set. Instead the crew ridiculed, provoked, and antagonized, an obviously impaired and very upset performer, whom they had furnished with, and allowed to consume alcohol on their set.

They then edit the BTS tape (example, cutting away before Tanner was able to describe how she felt she had been molested on the set by Johnny Thrust), and release the video to further ridicule the performer. How professional. And these are the kind of people Brazzers / Manwin hires to produce content...

Fabian Thylmann likes to talk about professionalism, yet this is the caliber of "professional" that Brazzers / Manwin employs to direct their videos. :disgust

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I think I'm in love.

Take a number...apparently Tanner is quite popular (I don't follow white girls much, lol):

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/957...0A760B0D811297

Cute girl. Hopefully she has recovered from her substance abuse/alcohol addiction issues... :)

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Sadly someone who still can't see the obvious. What's quality traffic? Something that converts 1-50?

That's your problem and everyone else's. They convert at a level I think is crap and they think is great. Warchild actually boasted he could convert 1-500 of people he sent to a site from a Tube. Shut up very very fast when I pointed out that it was traffic he sent and asked how many did he need to send 500.

So how many do you need to send 50, to get a single sign up?

How many of these surfers can you get a day and at what cost?

And what was it 10 years ago and 5 and 3 years ago?

And what will it be in 5 years from now?

If the content were real quality you would need far less traffic to convert, good or bad traffic it would still take less. The problem is fewer and fewer sites have quality content on them. Something that stands out and convinces more than 1-50 to get out their credit card. Then when the member is in the site, how long he stays depends on how long the site keeps his interest. Send quality traffic to a sit with medium quality porn and you lose money.

Finding a site with real quality content that the customer isn't already well aware of is getting harder by the day.

But no worries, keep generating more traffic, while less join.

There are always two sides to every story :2 cents:

The problem lies in an industry that lets a girl get away with that attitude, UID and drinking on set. And in an industry that has shooters with such a poor man management skills.

IMO the girl not the shooter should be working.

However with the industries model of churning out cheap scenes in abundant numbers we get low level skills, producers and performers. All that matters is getting the scene in the can and onto the next one.

Maybe with such a low level product the only way to sell it it to throw masses of traffic at it in the hope a few will sign up. It's not marketing and for sure it's not selling. It's stacking the shelves in the street and hoping a few will buy something, instead of just taking it.

And that's what Will and Roald don't see. I see the losses we created.

JHC, I am humble to people I know and actually like... to people that try to constantly blame me for everything under the sun and drag my name through the mud, not so much... Why should I be humble to them? Just because I should be always nice to everyone?

Give me a break.

I think you mean Daniel Sundin, if so, Interpol is looking for him too:

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Data/...7/54525357.jpg

Here is the Interpol Wanted Notice

Funny you should mention Daniel in the same sentence as Fabian (and you apparently think higher of Daniel, the fugitive outlaw, than Fabian). There are some interesting stories out there about Fabian Thylmann and his connections to Bjorn Daniel Sundin... :winkwink:

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I tend to agree with your statement. I do not know this person, but the comments seem to lack concern with a bit of arrogance tossed in.

A person is either humble or they aren't. It's not a matter of who they're interacting with.

But, that concept is consistent with the other compartmentalizing that you do. Humble in case A, but not in case B. Ethical in case A, but not in case B. I guess that's how you rationalize/justify to yourself the things you and your company do.

Oh, and that brings up another related issue. Legal and ethical are not the same thing.

Some people have issues with Fabian Thylmann's ethics and actions too, like supporting Pirate Bay. :2 cents:

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