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Paul Markham 09-10-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18417592)
seriously how stupid are you

affiliates are paid as a percentage of sales

1 guy decides to pay 30% when everyone else is paying 10-20% and every affiliate and their mother will switch to that program

your "there too much free porn" cry baby bullshit is just that bullshit

You keep assuming the guy paying 30% has that money in his pricing structure.

The cost of affiliates has to be included in the cost of the join. So 1,000s of site are charging $20 and paying out 10%. Then someone decides he will pay out 50% and give affiliates everything they need. And raises the join price to $30. And everyone says "Why is this guy charging so much? Must be really good".

Then he finds it's no different from the $20 sites and all of a sudden, the $30 guy goes out of business. Because every customer thinks for $20 that can get the same.

Affiliates don't control this business, customers do. That's why Tubes are doing so well, customers decide where they view.

As you said it's too late now, the dye is cast.

There is too much free porn online. And I'm in the majority who thinks that. Problem is no one can think of a way to get off the slide.

But you're a guy with th weirdest possible views on copying and profiting from other peoples property. So I guess you're thinking on this might be a bit weird.

gideongallery 09-10-2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18417747)
You keep assuming the guy paying 30% has that money in his pricing structure.

The cost of affiliates has to be included in the cost of the join. So 1,000s of site are charging $20 and paying out 10%. Then someone decides he will pay out 50% and give affiliates everything they need. And raises the join price to $30. And everyone says "Why is this guy charging so much? Must be really good".

Then he finds it's no different from the $20 sites and all of a sudden, the $30 guy goes out of business. Because every customer thinks for $20 that can get the same.

first of all who says anything about raising prices, i said raising affliate commissions
say one guy decides to risk it raise commission give up his profits on a site, counting on economies of scale to make his profits
bandwidth cost decrease with each additional users
fixed cost like content once you break even don't get allocated anymore
1 guy raising his commission would not need to raise prices 1 dollar to make made money if everyone else stayed the same.

That the fucking point moron, seriously you need to read up on a nash equlibrium



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Affiliates don't control this business, customers do. That's why Tubes are doing so well, customers decide where they view.
tell that to microsoft, they don't focus on end users they focus on supporting developers

the end users take windows because it the plateform for all the applications they want

the same principle applied to the affiliate model

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As you said it's too late now, the dye is cast.

There is too much free porn online. And I'm in the majority who thinks that. Problem is no one can think of a way to get off the slide.

But you're a guy with th weirdest possible views on copying and profiting from other peoples property. So I guess you're thinking on this might be a bit weird.
idiot i never said it was too late now
i said your a moron for trying to fight against the nashian trend

the success model embraces the change, adapt to the new marketplace rather then bitching about how there is too much free porn.

Jakez 09-13-2011 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18417747)
You keep assuming the guy paying 30% has that money in his pricing structure.

Jesus you're so all over the place it's hilarious.

According to what you've already said before and how you think it should have happened:
Internet goes back in time and sponsors never pay more than 10% to affiliates. 90% of todays affiliates would not exist (according to what YOU said, YOUR logic). This means those sponsors are making a killing because free porn is not rampant, ratios are spectacular, and the mass of affiliates do not exist. Correct? So if they (the sponsors) are making a killing then they could SO FUCKING EASILY raise affiliates payout to 30% and doesn't need to raise the membership price a penny because every affiliate is going to flock to them like flies to shit, and in turn cause every other sponsor to raise their payouts to compete. Which easily explains why things are the way they are today. Does that make any fucking sense? Are we in 2011 now? This is all based on your own logic so feel free to disagree with it and admit you contradict yourself in every post you make.


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