The problem is that your opinion has no weight when it concerns someone else's
property. If what they are doing is stupid then that's their option because they own the
rights.

Your failure to protect your content rights does not make the content rights of others fail.

Isn't it amazing how resistant people are to understanding this simple law.

It's so basic : "If you didn't create it then pay for licensing or don't use it".

So simple.

Everybody understand the models rights and gets the release signed but there's
a massive brain fart when it comes to musicians, writers and film makers.

These people don't seem "stupid" at all; it's a resistance thing.
They don't agree so therefore there is no law in their eyes.

arguing about something that some clown just made up is retarded.

Ive found that fines backfire :2 cents:

actually youtube only bans the videos from mobile devices, ones that have sound in the background.

Simple math. Copywritten music in the background of your Youtube videos = no money

This isnt new, restaurants, barbershops,etc must pay licensing if they want to play music in their place of business..Ascap must be paid or civil action is taken. I remember 20 yrs ago my friend had a restaurant played music in the background. One day the ascap man showed up. He had to buy a license. Leo could buy a shitload of royalty free music cheap and offer it to girls to use if it becomes a problem.

That's probably after the match of the video internally I am guessing. We get notices that talk about youtube content ID, etc.. after the notice (auto-reply). That's all managed by the rights holder and there are mainstream folks who make nice money on that system. It's under THEIR control though and no third parties are involved. Youtube is also not taking a cut either as I am aware.

well.. they did 100 million dollars by now, so they really must not care if it goes down... they did an amazing business.

Its open to their discretion and it depends on what sort of video it is.

I just uploaded a video today that has copyright music in it. I did last week and I will continue to do so. Youtube emails each time before its even live to the public telling me they know and that I need not take any actions.

So, not sure what type of vid you are talking about, I have heard of this. But its never happened to me.

it so simple because it totally wrong


vcr did not get permission or licience the tv shows they recorded

diamond rio did licience all the music they converted to mp3

fair use authorized that action without the "infringer" paying a cent in liciensing fees

Just talked to a non-GFY copyright attorney about this thread. :1orglaugh The broadcast provider is not liable, as a provider, if they are NOT placing the content there themselves. In other words... if the girls are camming from their homes and through their connections.. this whole music deal is on them.

You speaking as a cam site, model or studio?

It doesn't stop any of the girls from doing whatever it is they were fined for. Like strippers, hookers, and porn chicks, most cam girls have no concept of a dollar.

GFY armchair lawyers know better. Duh. :upsidedow

half the time i dont realize it cause i always have music playing in the background, i guess from now on i will have to turn my music off ;)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it's always funny to see some IDEALISTIC Ignorant HOPERS.. it reminds me that their mentality is the same the movie with sylvester stallone and wesley snipes.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6003/...9a4fb01053.jpg

OP troll doing it for the lawlz.

i cant afford copyright music, to upload to youtube. in order to check... :(

Exactly.

Just avoid the whole issue ...

Don't do it — getting into a "pissing contest" is always a poor choice ...

Employee training and employer oversight.. Not a novel concept.

Brad

It's 'on the performer' the same way as its 'on' someone who uploads content to any site. They might be responsible for what they upload, but the site is responsible for taking it down, once notified, as well as making sure it doesn't happen again - ie, warning the performer/user not to do it again or risk termination.

Copyright usic on live cam is one of my big issues at present. If they are showing from a studio, you may find they have paid PRS which entitles the music to be played in the background.

Myfreecams should not have to pay for this, this is down to the studio or model to pay.

Ive looked into the payment to play music in my studio, and each cam studio has a seperate fee which means it can add up to a grand or so, but if I just want to be able to cover the models playing music in each room, rather than all over the public internet area at the front of the shop or in the offices it can work out much less. Its cost is over the area of square feet it is played in.

Most professional studios probably have paid PRS as said on previous post, its the models that log on from their homes & as you say, dont have a clue about business, just being paid money to spend on more clothes :2 cents:

I do not think it is down to the livecam site for the music copyrights to be paid, however, they would have to have a clause on the signup stating this. If this was the case though, it leads into much more, like whether the footage or what the model is doing is legal etc.



Maybe no music should be allowed at no time, if music is played, then the model may be banned from the website :2 cents:

yeah, so what about the rest of cam studios, they have licence for the bg music? :) lol ...

By law they should. Any shop or business playing music must have it. Were getting it.

Yeah. Just like p2p filesharing networks can't be sued and shut down.

If their algorithm finds in your video a music that is i their giant database of copyrighted stuff they can mute your video (with a little text in the description) or add a link to iTunes and other market places to buy that track and I am sure they send a referrer to earn affiliate fees (this depends on agreements they have settled with the majors)

In Britain, those using copyright music without licensing, shop, online or other profitable business. PRS for music can sue the a$$ :2 cents:

It may or may not be MyFreeCam's responsibility, but it certainly looks like billing companies like CCBill don't allow this.

http://www.ccbill.com/cs/client/poli...le_use-eu.html
Violation Of CCBill EU Policy
"Any attempt to display, sell, or transfer materials that violate or infringe any copyright, trademark, right of publicity, patent, statutory, common law or proprietary rights of others"

"CCBill EU reserves the right to cooperate with law enforcement and other authorities in investigating claims of illegal activity including, but not limited to, illegal transfer or availability of copyrighted material, trademarks"

Epoch:
https://epoch.com/copyright.html
COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT POLICY
Epoch may, in its discretion, suspend and/or terminate the accounts of any Epoch client that is accused of infringing intellectual property rights of others pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA").

So then, if someone from the RIAA heard copyright music STREAMING from a chat room, they just might decide to give their lawyers a call and look at who is doing it, or who is profiting from it, or both.

You'll be claiming they pay tax next.

I suppose it could be the same for any live cam company... Im still wondering about buying into your platforms Mark, if so, we are purchasing licences for music to be played in our studio, however, maybe you also should look into who is online & what is being played on your platforms :thumbsup

Big commercial studios would, payments from the studios are bank transfer, so you cant get away with conning the tax man these days :2 cents:

they aint going anywhere

You should of learned by now, us fucking them over is fine. Them doing it to us is very bad. :Oh crap

Get with the times Helter. :1orglaugh

Because you choose for others to profit off your work without paying, doesn't mean others have to.

ok ass hats... how many girls have a copyright myfreecams on their video... more than a few... how many of these girls dance to music with a copyright... all of them

so myfreecams is copyrighting a video containing music that is already copywritten... allow the law suits to begin..

the people i feel sorry for the most are those who are going to lose out on seeing a girl fist her ass hole for free while gyrating to any crap ass rap song that proves the ignorance of america... now GFY

they made 100 millions dollars with myfreecams.. they must not care if it can go down.

It places the itunes link automatically? I thought the uploaders were doing that to make a commission.

that doesn't fly. its like shutting down youtube for copy right issues