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2MuchMark 09-13-2011 11:44 AM

Un fucking real!!

The cost of socialized medicine is far less than the cost of wars, the bush tax cuts, and the tax credits to the wealthy yet nobody seems to realize it. I cannot understand for the life of me how ANYONE with a brain can be a tea party member or a republican. Care to explain this, Sally Rand?

Rochard 09-13-2011 11:52 AM

I was just reading about this on Yahoo news. Horrible really...

It's hard to believe that people would just say "let them die without medical attention"...

L-Pink 09-13-2011 11:55 AM

Keep in mind the question is about someone in a coma. Not someone that's ill ..... Just saying.

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Bryan G 09-13-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18424547)
Im glad someone in this thread is smart and got it right.

ummm No, go watch it again and wait till the end.

baddog 09-13-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18424654)
Keep in mind the question is about someone in a coma. Not someone that's ill ..... Just saying.

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They must be vegetarians.

porno jew 09-13-2011 12:08 PM

america was always about the liberty to be greedy, mean-spirited and cruel to one's fellow countrymen. good think someone is sticking up for those values again.

L-Pink 09-13-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18424699)
They must be vegetarians.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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epitome 09-13-2011 12:25 PM

Wow, 3 idiots yelling yeah and laughing...while the hundreds of others sit quietly.

Seriously?

SallyRand 09-13-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18423361)
People cheering for letting the uninsured die.


Rod Paul did not say anyone should die, no one cheered for any such statement as no such statement was made except by Wolf Blitzer.

In a typical action by the Propaganda Ministers of the Left, this video was both taken out of context and edited by them.

Here is the REAL thing:


DWB 09-13-2011 01:07 PM

I agree with Ron Paul on that one.

Not sure why anyone would applaud letting someone in a coma die, but that is their choice to believe that they should.

ArsewithClass 09-13-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18424757)
Rod Paul did not say anyone should die, no one cheered for any such statement

It's Damian twisting facts as usual :(

Here in the UK we pay NI which is national insurance, paying for healthcare. You can still pay for private health insurance but lots do not.
In the states, as they do not take NI from you, & private medical care is needed, then this is how it is.... Nothing wrong with paying for medical insurance :2 cents:

Maybe your taxes are a lot less than 20% & the rest over here :winkwink:

gleem 09-13-2011 01:36 PM

so stupid, like 2 kids in the crowd yelled "yeah" for all you know it was the two liberals in the house there to heckle people.

DamianJ 09-13-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18424987)
Maybe your taxes are a lot less than 20% & the rest over here :winkwink:

Tax isn't National Insurance, you do understand that, right?

Bless you for trying to join in a grown up conversation though.

/me ruffles your hair

Tom_PM 09-13-2011 01:47 PM

He never accepted Wolfs premise and instead just played politics and said whatever he wanted. Worthless in or out of context like all of them are. Congrats Obama on 4 more years.

porno jew 09-13-2011 01:52 PM

http://i.imgur.com/tyShx.jpg

PornoMonster 09-13-2011 01:58 PM

The hypo question was a bout a Person who HAS the ability to pay but chooses not to.

ArsewithClass 09-13-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18425009)
Tax isn't National Insurance, you do understand that, right?

Bless you for trying to join in a grown up conversation though.

/me ruffles your hair

:error Maybe you should leave this conversation to the adults :2 cents:


When did anyone mention tax is the same as NI? NI pays for medical care in the UK... We pay higher taxes in the UK also.... Living in the US, if you want medical care, get some private cover, as the taxes are not so high & in the US, there is no NI.

Is that wrote clear enough for you.... :321GFY

MaDalton 09-13-2011 02:06 PM

i think there should be a mandatory basic health insurance for cases like this - like in 99.9% of the civilized countries - just not in the US

PornoMonster 09-13-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 18424447)
Irony here being that a lot of so called "tea party" people are working class and barely scratching out a living and will never amount to much of anything their whole lives, and often times can't afford health insurance. These people continually vote against their own best interests.

Does that keep you from doing what you think is right?

LC777_BCM 09-13-2011 02:15 PM

Health insurance should be affordable. And don't even get me started on worthless dental insurance. It's fine for a cavity and that's about it.
__________________

^^^I agree with the above comment^^^

DamianJ 09-13-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18425094)
Maybe you should leave this conversation to the adults

That's what I said to you. It's sweet how you cannot think of anything insulting so just copy what I say. Imitation is the sincerest form of...?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18425094)
When did anyone mention tax is the same as NI?

You seemed to confuse the two, so I was trying to help you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18425094)
NI pays for medical care in the UK... We pay higher taxes in the UK also.... Living in the US, if you want medical care, get some private cover, as the taxes are not so high & in the US, there is no NI.

So, you think it is cool to just let someone die because they have no insurance?


Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18425094)

Is that wrote* clear enough for you.... :321GFY

*written

It's cool man, it's as if you enjoy advertising the fact you left school at 15 and cannot even write basic English.

Seriously, I've used outsourced Indian workers who speak better English than you.

Black All Through 09-13-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 18423468)
Ron Paul just want to say, if you take the risk, and got in such position, its not easy to say who will pay, but they will not let him die for god sake...

I think you should listen to it again.

wehateporn 09-13-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 18423720)
Here is the whole clip:



Ron Paul is right on this. The few idiots in the crowd saying, "Yeah!" don't represent his position.

Thanks for posting the full clip, the short one doesn't reflect the true context of what Ron Paul was saying :thumbsup

ArsewithClass 09-13-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18425176)
That's what I said to you. It's sweet how you cannot think of anything insulting so just copy what I say. Imitation is the sincerest form of...?

Still acting like the child & still trolling your own thread :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18425176)
You seemed to confuse the two, so I was trying to help you.

No confusion here, maybe the confusion is inside that very small head of yours :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18425176)
So, you think it is cool to just let someone die because they have no insurance?

:error Ron Paul didnt say this neither... you do like to exaggerate dont you! Is it because you lack attention at home, was it your big brother that got all of the attention? Ahhh, now im feeling sorry for the poor little attention seeker :(

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18425176)
It's cool man, it's as if you enjoy advertising the fact you left school at 15 and cannot even write basic English.

Lies, I left school at 16... You should be banned :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18425176)
Seriously, I've used outsourced Indian workers who speak better English than you.

Are you a racist mother fucker, whats an indian man got to do with speaking English in this conversation, considering most Indians as most of the world these days are intelligent and can speak English very well, you fucking racist arsehole :disgust

DamianJ 09-13-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18425228)
Thanks for posting the full clip, the short one doesn't reflect the true context of what Ron Paul was saying :thumbsup

Yeah, Ron Paul is awesome. My bad.

/me walks away shaking his head in shame that a human being could possibly ever think Ron Paul is anything other than a massive fucking cunt

wehateporn 09-13-2011 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18425245)
Yeah, Ron Paul is awesome. My bad.

/me walks away shaking his head in shame that a human being could possibly ever think Ron Paul is anything other than a massive fucking cunt

Is this the first time you've watched a video of him or have you seen others too?

Bryan G 09-13-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem (Post 18425001)
so stupid, like 2 kids in the crowd yelled "yeah" for all you know it was the two liberals in the house there to heckle people.

Lmao!!! Ok then!! Because that's what people who actually give a shit about anyone actually do.

jimmy-3-way 09-13-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Oystein (Post 18423428)
Well, truth be told, even in a social democracy like Norway there is no sponsored dental to talk about. Well, except for the first 18 years of your life, it is free. Dental work is not that overly expensive in the US unless you need serious work - Wonder how it is in Great Britain where everyone has teeth like as if they grew up in the countryside in the US :upsidedow

True -- I did the sums on dental versus paying cash and it's cheaper to pay cash if you brush every day. I recently had an old filling replaced - my dentist knocks off 15% if you pay cash so out the door it was like $200 or so.

I'm not sure why the dental field hasn't suffered the massive price inflation of other medical. Maybe because at the end of the day teeth are just teeth?

DamianJ 09-13-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18425256)
Is this the first time you've watched a video of him or have you seen others too?

He's a cunt.

helterskelter808 09-13-2011 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18425245)
Yeah, Ron Paul is awesome. My bad.

/me walks away shaking his head in shame that a human being could possibly ever think Ron Paul is anything other than a massive fucking cunt

Libertarians are fucking idiots. Worse than Communists. They have all these theories that could only ever even remotely have any chance of working in an absolutely ideal world. Unlike Communism though, which in theory at least has its heart in the right place, Libertarianism is pure callousness and selfishness.

Unfortunately the internet is littered, like dog turds, with these Libertarian imbeciles, sucking the cock of batshit crazy novelist Ayn Rand and talking about this (thankfully) total no-hoper as Presidential material. Same idiotic shit happened before the last election and will happen again next time, if he hasn't croaked it by then.

All you need to know about Ron Paul is, like the worst kind political fundamentalist crank, he is such a crackpot extremist he even named his own son after his political hero. How anyone can take someone like that seriously, I don't know.

_Richard_ 09-13-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18425059)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

jimmy-3-way 09-13-2011 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18425245)
Yeah, Ron Paul is awesome. My bad.

/me walks away shaking his head in shame that a human being could possibly ever think Ron Paul is anything other than a massive fucking cunt

Ron Paul is probably one of the few people that I have almost nothing in common with but still respect.

You can't deny the guy has a logical and consistent belief system and acts according to it, unlike about 99.9% of other politicians.

DamianJ 09-13-2011 03:50 PM

I don't think having a consistent belief system is enough to elevate one from cuntdom.

jimmy-3-way 09-13-2011 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18425392)
...sucking the cock of batshit crazy novelist Ayn Rand...

Have you read Rand?

jimmy-3-way 09-13-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18425403)
I don't think having a consistent belief system is enough to elevate one from cuntdom.

Well if all we are doing is calling people who disagree with us names, probably not.

helterskelter808 09-13-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 18425404)
Have you read Rand?

Enough. Or more than enough. I take it you're one of the fans of the batshit crazy novelist I was talking about?

Edit: and if you want 'logical and consistent' (aka inflexible and unprepared to adapt), have a computer as President. A lot of tech nuts like Rand, so they'd probably go for that stupid idea too.

porno jew 09-13-2011 04:33 PM

to be inflexible in a constantly shifting and mutating world is a sign of weakness and insanity than anything to be admired.

if you know any kooks irl you will see them continually fail as they try and use their inflexible worldview in every situation.

ArsewithClass 09-13-2011 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18425392)
All you need to know about Ron Paul is, like the worst kind political fundamentalist crank, he is such a crackpot extremist he even named his own son after his political hero. How anyone can take someone like that seriously, I don't know.

This says to me loyal family man.... You do not have children? Have you not heard of people being named after their parents heros?

Are you saying you would prefer communism to freedom? come on... he's saying it is your choice, work hard & pay for all, succeed in all you do.

ArsewithClass 09-13-2011 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18425403)
I don't think having a consistent belief system is enough to elevate one from cuntdom.

Consistency is important in everything :2 cents:

helterskelter808 09-13-2011 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18425524)
This says to me loyal family man.... You do not have children? Have you not heard of people being named after their parents heros?

Yeah. It means their parents are self-absorbed fuckstains who care more about their own interests than their own children. You have a hero? Get a tattoo. Where's Rand Paul's "freedom" and "liberty" not to be named after someone his dad just happens to have a hard on for?

Quote:

Are you saying you would prefer communism to freedom? come on... he's saying it is your choice, work hard & pay for all, succeed in all you do.
And what if you don't? It's simple-minded claptrap that could not possibly ever work in the real world. Not everyone can be a "winner".


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