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ManPuppy 09-15-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 18428569)
This only matters if the election is close, and it won't be. Romney or Perry will trounce Obama the same way Reagan overwhelmed Carter. It's already taking shape. And, if the emerging Solyndra scandal grows and implicates the White House as being either corrupt or highly-negligent... as uncovered e-mails seem to indicate... Barry Obama won't have a prayer.

Granted similarities between Obama and Carter aside, Romney, maybe. Perry, I doubt, simply because he sounds too much like a high-octane Bush.

Tom_PM 09-15-2011 12:58 PM

"non-wealthy" are those who benefit from social programs that the GOP of 2011 wants to eliminate in their perverted quest to keep all the money.

JamesGw 09-15-2011 01:03 PM

I like the general premise of the idea, but trying to game it with redistricting is pretty fucking lame. I do think that electoral votes should be split, though.

sperbonzo 09-15-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18429845)
I agree. As brilliant and amazing as our founding fathers were they likely didn't foresee things like the internet or stealth bombers. The world changes and our constitution should be allowed to evolve with it. It shouldn't be something that is done lightly, but it is a living document that was designed so that it could be changed.


I love when people make this sort of statement. Ok, I'll bite. Where does should the constitution be changed because of the internet or stealth bombers?


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sperbonzo 09-15-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18429827)
I disagree. The number just don't tell that story. Look at the this page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...election,_2008

while some states are dark red and dark blue, many of them are actually pretty close. As technology advances more and more companies are leaving the population centers and moving into rural areas and going with them are the workers that have jobs in those fields.

The population centers of this country have always controlled it and always will. The question is how much power do those who live outside of those centers now have? The answer is plenty. By forcing candidates to pay attention to all of the voters nationwide not just those states they need to carry in the next election everyone is better off not just those who happen to live in battleground states.

EXACTLY!!!!!


.:2 cents:

sperbonzo 09-15-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18429800)
Funny how popular vote is good enough for governors, senators, representaitves but not the President.


That is the difference between elections WITHIN A STATE, and elections including and between all the states. The constitution makes the US a collection of self-running states, that cede some powers to the Federal government (10th Amendment). I say thank god for this, (even though the feds are TOTALLY over-reaching the powers that the states allowed them), it would be FAR worse if the 10th amendment didn't exist. The fact is that the larger an area and population that a government controls, the less representative and more removed from the people it becomes. That's why the 10th amendment exists, and that's why states can control how they each decide their votes for the President.


.:2 cents:

crockett 09-15-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18428542)
So if candidate wins half the state, he gets half the electoral votes.
If he wins 10% of the districts, he gets 10% of the electoral votes. Hmm, sounds a lot more democratic. Democracy - how devious.

If that's the real reason behind it, then why not go with popular vote? IE the people's vote.

Why, because they couldn't cheat their way with that.

ruff 09-15-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18429741)
Were you in a coma for 2008 & 09? All the democrats did was make an already bad situation,worse.

Before you get involved, you need to educate yourself dipshit.

DWB 09-15-2011 02:57 PM

You're just going to replace one ass hat with another.

BFT3K 09-15-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18430216)
You're just going to replace one ass hat with another.

Or keep the same one. Replacement is not inevitable.

BFT3K 09-15-2011 03:25 PM

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kane 09-15-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18429953)
I love when people make this sort of statement. Ok, I'll bite. Where does should the constitution be changed because of the internet or stealth bombers?


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My point was simply that for as brilliant as the founding fathers were they likely could never have imagined the world that we live in today and that they would probably not be offended if parts of the Constitution were changed in order to better fit our modern society.

I was just using stealth bombers and the internet as an example, but I would say that the internet actually holds some power in my argument for getting rid of the electoral college. One of the reasons it was created was to force candidates to campaign in lesser populated areas. Back in the days of its creation information traveled slowly and the newspapers were notoriously corrupt. So the candidates had to travel to visit the far reaches of the nation in order to get the word out about what they believed. Now with the internet, if they say anything it around the world within minutes.

GatorB 09-15-2011 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18429953)
I love when people make this sort of statement. Ok, I'll bite. Where does should the constitution be changed because of the internet or stealth bombers?


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The constitution wasn't meant to be a static document either. Perhaps reading the founding fathers own feelings on this would be educational.

GatorB 09-15-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18429963)
:2 cents:

You want change back? You are jewish afterall.

Lucy - CSC 09-15-2011 04:10 PM

You actually honestly believe their is any difference between the two parties?

If the founding fathers were alive today they wouldnt be campaigning for either side they would be organising an uprising due to being disgusted by what has happened to the land they conquered.

Lucy - CSC 09-15-2011 04:13 PM

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I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
Thomas Jefferson, (Attributed)
3rd president of US (1743 - 1826)

Seems as though they were also clever never to warn what would happen if the central bank of America was a private entity. Guess what they were 100% correct.

Minte 09-15-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18429796)
you=retard. Seriously consider suicide

Ouch.... I'd be bitter too if I had to actually be you.

Minte 09-15-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 18430196)
Before you get involved, you need to educate yourself dipshit.



It?s open season on President Barack Obama ? and that?s just from members of his own party.

With frustration and disappointment mounting from stinging defeats in Tuesday?s two special elections and over Obama?s jobs plan, the media is filled on Thursday with Democrats on the record publicly questioning and doubting the president and some of his policies, and a few even unleashing biting criticism.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1Y4Hgewem

BFT3K 09-15-2011 05:19 PM

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