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porno jew 09-17-2011 03:47 PM

you left this part out of the interview with the supposed "controller" os israel:

"In general I am not in contact with politicians. I spoke once with Netanyahu, as I mentioned. I met once with an Israeli finance minister, but the less I mingle with politicians the better I feel."

wehateporn 09-17-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434115)
you left this part out of the interview with the supposed "controller" os israel:

"In general I am not in contact with politicians. I spoke once with Netanyahu, as I mentioned. I met once with an Israeli finance minister, but the less I mingle with politicians the better I feel."

It's important for him to portray this image, he has middle-men who he sends to the politicians. He chooses what to fund

porno jew 09-17-2011 03:53 PM

you post no proof, only speculation which you try and pass off as fact.

that supposedly "authentic" quote is from someone who died 200 years ago. do the rothchild's control the money supply anywhere in the world? print money? no. so i have no idea what point you are trying to make here.

anyways that quote is fake and has no authentic source like the rest of the quotes you tend to post.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Money

Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws!

Attributed to Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744–1812). No primary source for this is known and the earliest attribution to him known is 1935 (Money Creators, Gertrude M. Coogan). Before that, "Let us control the money of a nation, and we care not who makes its laws" was said to be a "maxim" of the House of Rothschilds, or, even more vaguely, of the "money lenders of the Old World". This is a play on an English proverb, Let me make the songs of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws.

again use some critical thinking and don't be sheep and believe everything you read. baa baa.





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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18434113)
The Rothschilds, like most Billionaires, don't pump money into things for fun, even if they sometimes like to make things seem that way. If they set it up and owned it back then, given that they've never been in a position to need to sell, they are going to be in control of it now too. They don't like people to know that because that means taking the blame for attacks/wars etc.

Given that they are a banking family, they didn't need to bring in anyone else to do Israel's banking for them, now look at the quote below

Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws.

Mayer Amschel Rothschild


helterskelter808 09-17-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434080)
links then? to original sources? if you don't post them i assume they are made up and just using it to bullshit the easily duped.

It's a moot point. If he/she posts links or sources, you'll claim the sources made it up or they're biased (as if the US media is unbiased).

It's not really about "Jews" controlling anything anyway, and it's rather lazy and distasteful, IMHO, to attack "Jews" (generally) for what Israel does.

A lot of the same people (neo-Nazis) who attack "Jews" are quite happy to quote and cite such varied sources as religious Jews like NKUSA and Jews Against Zionism and on the other side, leftist Jews like Noam Chomsky or Norman Finkelstein.

It's not Jews who own the US or Israel, it's a brand of venal, militaristic Zionism, which doesn't have the interests of Americans or Israelis at heart; only the interests of itself and its supporters.

Neither do so-called "friends" of Israel, in the US media or elsewhere, including Christian fundamentalist nutjobs praying for the second coming and/or Armageddon or whatever the fuck those wackos are into.

The media in Israel is actually often far more reasonable and less biased than the US, and it's a pity, because Israel could be a great country if it wasn't controlled by the same kind of racist, greedy, self-serving crooks as the USA.

porno jew 09-17-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18434132)
It's a moot point. If he/she posts links or sources, you'll claim the sources made it up or they're biased (as if the US media is unbiased).

no. you have no idea how to cite sources? i take it you never had any higher education.

helterskelter808 09-17-2011 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434137)
no. you have no idea how to cite sources?

Any reason why I should when I didn't post the quote?

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i take it you never had any higher education.
I take it you don't know how to copy and paste a quote into a search engine?

porno jew 09-17-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18434143)
Any reason why I should when I didn't post the quote?



I take it you don't know how to copy and paste a quote into a search engine?

yes and when i did most of these quotes have no original legit sources. they are fake. usually produced by actual real fascists or nazis / neo-nazi / authoritarian sympathizers and propaganda outlets.

helterskelter808 09-17-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434151)
yes and when i did most of these quotes have no original legit sources. they are fake. usually produced by actual real fascists or nazis / neo-nazi / authoritarian sympathizers and propaganda outlets.

Which is exactly what I said you'd say isn't it, fuckwit?

directfiesta 09-17-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434019)
works the other way around moron.

lol.... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Tell that to the Americans ...

Remember .. :

Saddam , prove you have no WMD ...


Funny how it does not work like that anymore, moran ...:upsidedow

wehateporn 09-17-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434127)
you post no proof, only speculation which you try and pass off as fact.

that supposedly "authentic" quote is from someone who died 200 years ago. do the rothchild's control the money supply anywhere in the world? print money? no. so i have no idea what point you are trying to make here.

anyways that quote is fake and has no authentic source like the rest of the quotes you tend to post.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Money

Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws!

Attributed to Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744–1812). No primary source for this is known and the earliest attribution to him known is 1935 (Money Creators, Gertrude M. Coogan). Before that, "Let us control the money of a nation, and we care not who makes its laws" was said to be a "maxim" of the House of Rothschilds, or, even more vaguely, of the "money lenders of the Old World". This is a play on an English proverb, Let me make the songs of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws.

I understand you are trying to lay bait to stimulate the forum, so I suspect that you probably do know that the Rothschilds own Israel

If however you really don't believe it and think that the Rothschilds would be on CNN explaining Israel's actions and destroying the myth of the Israeli democracy. Perhaps you should start imagining how you would act if you were one of the world's top bankers and had complete control of a nation. Think of the reasons why you might not want people to know that.

Also, think about the reasons that a forum owner who posts under are pseudonym might not want people to know that the pseudonym is him :winkwink:

porno jew 09-17-2011 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18434152)
Which is exactly what I said you'd say isn't it, fuckwit?

i never disputed a legit quote. you logic sucks.

Lucy - CSC 09-17-2011 04:33 PM

porno jew ignores video evidence which he cant call bullshit to which clearly shows what a vile terrorist country Israel is and just focuses on quotes which are easily provable yet at the same time hard to defend as he can call any sources bullshit.

He probably has a deep seated hatred of himself after his parents mutilated him at birth by cutting off his little willy.

wehateporn 09-17-2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18434183)
porno jew ignores video evidence which he cant call bullshit to which clearly shows what a vile terrorist country Israel is and just focuses on quotes which are easily provable yet at the same time hard to defend as he can call any sources bullshit.

He probably has a deep seated hatred of himself after his parents mutilated him at birth by cutting off his little willy.

It's always diffiicult to judge how much of what he says is what he really believes and what portion of it is simply bait being layed to ensure a poster feels compelled to return. He has a different agenda to everyone else here :2 cents:

Overall though, he does appear to have faith in his mainstream news

Lucy - CSC 09-17-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18434192)
It's always diffiicult to judge how much of what he says is what he really believes and what portion of it is simply bait being layed to ensure a poster feels compelled to return. He has a different agenda to everyone else here :2 cents:

Overall though, he does appear to have faith in his mainstream news


Faith makes people believe blindly even when shown video evidence they still refuse to accept they are wrong.

porno jew 09-17-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18434192)

Overall though, he does appear to have faith in his mainstream news

oh yeah? proof?

porno jew 09-17-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18434195)
Faith makes people believe blindly even when shown video evidence they still refuse to accept they are wrong.

never even commented on the video. just your fake quotes.

where did i "refuse to accept" anything about them?

lying comes second nature to you it seems. you should work for the government.

wehateporn 09-17-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18434195)
Faith makes people believe blindly even when shown video evidence they still refuse to accept they are wrong.

We definitely do see that with videos of the WTC7 demolition; that is clear evidence of how easily people can be led away from the obvious :2 cents:

wehateporn 09-17-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434196)
oh yeah? proof?

I've read hundreds of your posts :2 cents:

porno jew 09-17-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18434192)
It's always diffiicult to judge how much of what he says is what he really believes and what portion of it is simply bait being layed to ensure a poster feels compelled to return. He has a different agenda to everyone else here :2 cents:

Overall though, he does appear to have faith in his mainstream news

you live in a simple-minded either/or universe. you are unable to even comprehend that if someone disputes the bullshit that you post it does not mean they accept the mainstream view of things.

if your intelligence increases you may understand that one day.

wehateporn 09-17-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434209)
you live in a simple-minded either/or universe. you are unable to even comprehend that if someone disputes the bullshit that you post it does not mean they accept the mainstream view of things.

if your intelligence increases you may understand that one day.

I've got to stop falling for this bait, I've got work to do :1orglaugh

You're good at it though, I'll give you that

TheSquealer 09-17-2011 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18434183)
porno jew ignores video evidence which he cant call bullshit to ...

I think he was callin bullshit on your "evidence" which was a few fake quotes.

:2 cents:

helterskelter808 09-17-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18434237)
I think he was callin bullshit on your "evidence" which was a few fake quotes.

:2 cents:

Where's your evidence the quotes are fake? Two of them were cited. Are you saying that the CBS interview was made up? Should be fairly trivial for you to upload the video then to expose it, since you're so sure the statement wasn't made.

To save you buying your first book, in order to "expose" the other "fake" quote, here's an excerpt from Page 99 of Fallen Pillars:

http://books.google.com/books?id=1YN...wn3H60g&edge=0

As to the Sharon quote, it originates from some "Palestinian News Agency". Like I said to porno tard, it doesn't really matter if a source is provided for that because you'll reject it anyway as "fake" or not "legit" due to the fact you don't like the sound of it.

So it really just rests on whether you believe Sharon said it or not and/or whether you think it's true. Personally I think it's academic. He's a mass murdering psychopath who has done and said a lot worse than that, so the quote is just lazy and inconsequential copy/paste blog comment fodder that adds nothing to any real debate.

porno jew 09-17-2011 05:40 PM

did i dispute that quote idiot?

and yes the sharon quote is fake. anyone with some critical thinking facilities would discover that. but you are too blinded by your belief system to see that.


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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18434252)
To save you buying your first book, in order to "expose" the other "fake" quote, here's an excerpt from Page 99 of Fallen Pillars:

http://books.google.com/books?id=1YN...wn3H60g&edge=0

As to the Sharon quote, it originates from some "Palestinian News Agency". Like I said to porno tard, it doesn't really matter if a source is provided for that because you'll reject it anyway as "fake" or not "legit" due to the fact you don't like the sound of it.


TheSquealer 09-17-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18434252)
Where's your evidence the quotes are fake? Two of them were cited. Are you saying that the CBS interview was made up? Should be fairly trivial for you to upload the video then to expose it, since you're so sure the statement wasn't made.

I could care less about Palestinian areas or Israel. I was commenting on the person he was replying to and "her" evasiveness.

WarChild 09-17-2011 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434209)
you live in a simple-minded either/or universe. you are unable to even comprehend that if someone disputes the bullshit that you post it does not mean they accept the mainstream view of things.

if your intelligence increases you may understand that one day.

You do realize you are arguing with people that feel a need to validate their own importance by thinking they've discovered the secrets of an ultra-elite conspiracy spanning generations, political and geographic borders, right?

Maybe when you're done you can come down to my place and herd some of the cats around here? Thanks in advance. :winkwink:

helterskelter808 09-17-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434259)
did i dispute that quote idiot?

You disputed all the quotes, idiot. It's apparent you can't follow a simple thread, but can't you at least follow the incredible stupidity you bash out on your own keyboard?

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and yes the sharon quote is fake. anyone with some critical thinking facilities would discover that. but you are too blinded by your belief system to see that.
And how did you "discover" it is fake? Please, go through each step you took.

porno jew 09-17-2011 06:07 PM

i only quoted the sharon quote because that was the one i was disputing.

go back and look. i know you have troubles only seeing what you want to see but there it is.

i am not new to this issue and conspiracies. i discovered that quote to be fake ages ago.

how? i could not find a legit source outside of some anti-semitic websites.

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18434274)
You disputed all the quotes, idiot. It's apparent you can't follow a simple thread, but can't you at least follow the incredible stupidity you bash out on your own keyboard?



And how did you "discover" it is fake? Please, go through each step you took.


porno jew 09-17-2011 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18434271)
You do realize you are arguing with people that feel a need to validate their own importance by thinking they've discovered the secrets of an ultra-elite conspiracy spanning generations, political and geographic borders, right?

Maybe when you're done you can come down to my place and herd some of the cats around here? Thanks in advance. :winkwink:

yeah i know, but i'm not arguing about whether the new world order exists, but their lack of research, critical thinking and overall credulity.

WarChild 09-17-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434283)
yeah i know, but i'm not arguing about whether the new world order exists, but their lack of research, critical thinking and overall credulity.

What you're trying to do is akin to trying to convince someone who is clinically crazy that it is infact them that is crazy and not everyone else around them. It's just a waste of time. :2 cents:

porno jew 09-17-2011 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18434290)
What you're trying to do is akin to trying to convince someone who is clinically crazy that it is infact them that is crazy and not everyone else around them. It's just a waste of time. :2 cents:

yeah i guess i'm just bored.

WarChild 09-17-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434292)
yeah i guess i'm just bored.

Fair enough. Game on! :)

helterskelter808 09-17-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434280)
i only quoted the sharon quote because that was the one i was disputing.

go back and look. i know you have troubles only seeing what you want to see but there it is.

Yep. Here it is:

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Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18434073)
The 3 quotes were all real.

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434080)
links then? to original sources? if you don't post them i assume they are made up


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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434067)
so why post false quotes

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434095)
what does that have to do with the fake quotes you have no legit sources for?

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434151)
they are fake

So which is it, you are lying and backpedaling about disputing one quote or you simply have a ridiculously bad command of English?

porno jew 09-17-2011 06:22 PM

the plural was used because i was disputing wehateporns quote as well.

it is pretty obvious from my original post which one i was disputing.

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18434300)
Yep. Here it is:









So which is it, you are lying and backpedaling about challenging one quote or you simply have a ridiculously bad command of English?


helterskelter808 09-17-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18434302)
the plural was used because i was disputing wehateporns quote as well.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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it is pretty obvious from my original post which one i was disputing.
Of course, it's pretty obvious when you're disputing wehateporn's quote that you'd ask someone else entirely why they posted it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Carry on, please. This gets funnier the deeper you dig.

xholly 09-17-2011 07:58 PM

logic and total lack of proof doesn't work on "believers" porno jew, it just gets in their way and upsets their fantasies.

porno jew 09-17-2011 08:07 PM

dig deep into what? i told you what quotes i disputed. get over it.



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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18434306)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh



Of course, it's pretty obvious when you're disputing wehateporn's quote that you'd ask someone else entirely why they posted it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Carry on, please. This gets funnier the deeper you dig.


d-null 09-17-2011 08:24 PM

wait a second, this thread has a video of Gaddafi farting and a bemused Larry King and him making faces at each other, and you people are arguing about some other pointless things without even a chuckle or funny picture retort??? wtf??? :helpme

12clicks 09-18-2011 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 18431824)
what is more hypocritical then this veto...when US boots are literally fighting, dying for the "freedom" of Iraqis, afghanis.

& why even bother with this veto when israel & the american jews already hate obama. How many times has israel embarassed obama. I don't understand why israel is endlessly rewarded for their treatment of palestinians.

enlighten me o GFY :winkwink:

Dear anti-Semite, we don't reward terrorists with statehood. The end

Paul Markham 09-18-2011 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 18432898)
do you really think that? what then do you say to thomas jefferson...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

do the palestinians have a right to liberty?

He used the excuse that possession is 9/10ths of the law, or something like that.

Any Jew or pro Jewish person who thinks like that isn't very clued up on history. Millions went to war against Hitler, so possession wasn't 91/10ths of the law.

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 18434038)
I went to israel years ago and I will never forget all the Israelis kids throwing rocks at the little Palestinian girls going to school. Real rocks, real hard, hitting little girls in the head with real blood.

Again you would think they were taught their own history and how they had rocks thrown at them and were persecuted for a millennium. It seems give them some power to be persecutors they turn very easily.

Jews have been persecuted and hated for a very very long time. Shakespeare wasn't writing about a generally loved race when he wrote The Merchant of Venice. And the prejudice goes back further and Jews had to always take it. Now they have their own country, generally liked accepted around the world and have power. They persecute a less powerful people. :(

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18434856)
Dear anti-Semite, we don't reward terrorists with statehood. The end

Absobloodylutely.

Should never of given Palestine to the Jewish Terrorist, see the shit storm it's created. If they win they're called freedom fighters afterwards. Still terrorist.

Joshua G 09-18-2011 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18434856)
Dear anti-Semite, we don't reward terrorists with statehood. The end

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