There was a time when people would fall back on family and friends when they hit hard times. Taking a government handout was frowned upon.

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well seeing as how the family is breaking down more and more are you really surprised? and as much as i love my friends and family, i don't want them living with me. people gotta deal with their own problems but most people in such a situation come from generations of poverty, so where do those people go?

Evicting someone is not a drawn out process and takes 30 days. Someone is late issue them a 5 day pay or quit notice, if they fail to pay then you file with the court, once you take court you file for possession of the property, once you regain possession you can send a sheriff to put a eviction notice up. If they don't leave with in the time specified on the eviction notice the sheriff will come and remove them.

My wife was a property manager for a 643 apartment complex for 6 years, evictions are nothing new and have a very specific system. At court the tenant can bring up the disputed amount of money and its settled right then and there.

Perhaps you should move to the USSR of 1985. I bet you would be quite happy working for the state and living in your 10x8 govt provided apt.

You would see your friends and family on the street but expect other people (through taxes) to take care of them?

Haha.. are you kidding me?


She would have a 10X8 government provided apt.

She would have a 10X8 government provided apt and be sharing it with her mother, father, brothers and sisters.

This was true even of studio apartments. Housing in the Soviet Union was a clusterfuck. Not to mention you wouldn't have a phone, a car or new clothes, electronics, any real furniture and so on. Yay!
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do you really think relying on friends and family (who may not be in a position to help) is really a solution?

Don't burden friends and family but taxpayers. Fuck'em?

As opposed to relying on the government?

there are so many other things to complain about that are wasting way more money than welfare and social programs but i guess its easier to bitch about this.

oh by the way my girlfriends brother has been living with us for over a year now, so don't say i am not willing to help but its nothing that will work in the long term. what about disabled people who were never able enough to pay into the system? i guess its either family or the street right? soon we'll be like third world citizens with 30 people per home.

its not fair to the taxpayers, its not fair for the families who happen to be responsible enough to support their fuck up relatives. maybe we should just start exterminating the poor.

Government is supposed to be here to redress the inequities of the marketplace, That's one of its functions. Not just to protect the nation, secure our security and all that shit. And not just to take care of great problems that are trans-state problems, that are national, but also to make sure that the inequalities of the marketplace are redressed by the acts of government. That's what welfare is about. There are people who really just don't have the tools, for whatever reason. Yes, there are lazy people Yes, there are slackers. Yes, there's all of that. But there are also people who can't cut it, for any given reason, whether it's racism, or an educational opportunity, or poverty, or a fuckin' horrible home life, or a history of a horrible family life going back three generations, or whatever it is. They're crippled and they can't make it, and they deserve to rest at the commonweal.

Looking at that situation I would say their biggest mistake was trying to catch up on the rent at all. If they didn't want to pay the final 100 they shouldn't have paid anything before that either, I bet they wish they had that money back about now.

uh no just saw a guy that has shitty beer needs some help! :helpme

exactly however it was stupid of the landlord to take the money

in ontario that mistake would cost owner a shit load of money after a dispute under the tennent act.


i never take partial payments if the rent is late it not worth in, when a tenent has given you first and last month rent plus a security deposit.

if you have a late penalty fee you don't want to deal with the potential arguement that payment after the eviction constitutes a settlement of the outstanding issue and a reinstatement of the lease terms

that guys wife looks ok looking..

if she was serious about raising her kids, she could have gone out and sold her ass..

at the very least she could get $50 for a handjob...

fucking lazy whores...







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doesn't matter, after the landlord gets possession of the house they can get judgement and get the remaining balance, go after bank accounts, salaries etc.

Try all the Scandinavian countries for a start, and here in the UK the State pays for housing if you are unemployed and the council has to house families with children.

And yes the USSR and socialist countries housed all the populations.

BUT the richest country in the world throws families on the street.

The banks are too big to fail in capitalism, the rich get a bail out, throw the kids on to the street.

The problems of our societies? Its the poor 50% with 2% of the wealth and no power, it's their fault, not the 1% who have 80% of the wealth, and all the power.

She could have given the landlord a blowjob to call it even, but nooooo...

Unfortunately that is life. As much as people think they are "entitled" to things, when you are a renter, if you do not pay your rent no matter how much is owed, you are not entitled to stay in the house. They are renters. They can go rent some where else. Sucks for the kids, but families have been through a lot worst than having to move. The parents either should have came up with the total amount or been prepared to move so they wouldn't have had to been thrown out on the street. Do I feel sorry for them, yes especially the kids. But it certainty wasn't the home owners fault or the polices fault. People need to start accepting responsibility for their actions.

The 2011 American Dream.

"homeless" lol thats funny. They were renters. Just because they could not rent any more from that location, that means they can't rent a new house or perhaps an apartment or something cheaper that they could afford. Granted the house wasn't exactly nice but I am sure they could still rent something for at least $250 - $500 a month cheaper which sounds like more of what they can afford.

Kick a renter out = homeless? It was never their home to begin with. You pay monthly for the ability to live there. You cease to pay, you cease to live there. They just as easily can go rent somewhere else. And if they can't afford to rent somewhere else then that is not anyone's fault but their own. So if they have no money and can't pay for rent they made themselves homeless, not anyone else.

Fucking liberals and entitlement thinking people who are over dramatic about situations exactly like this is what is wrong with this country.

yeah because there isn't renters who are unable to pay in other countries. Fucking anti-american haters on this board... last I checked there wasn't exactly many countries that were having a thriving economy and no poverty. It has nothing to do with "america" and their american dream is still alive, if they go out there and take advantage of it, unlike in other countries where there is no oportunites.

DWB, I know you live in a 3rd world shit hole and you love it because of cheap hookers and you can bribe people, but what is your original country of origin ?

Have died but still it does not mean that you let them die when you make them homeless. Its like saying that you let your kids die when you take them camping to the woods because people have died in the woods. No need to overreact with "let them die" stuff.. :2 cents:

He's not unemployed dumbass and nowhere does it say he could not afford the rent or that he did not have the $100.
He called the landlord and the courts bluff and lost. So sad too bad.

How many times had they been to rent court?

In a lot of jurisdictions the landlord can ask you to be set out no matter what after a few go arounds because you're a deadbeat and wasting everybody's time.

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Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Brazil and most of Europe are the first ones that come to my mind. I don't know about the exact process in other countries, but in Argentina FAMILIES are protected for up to 6 months until they regularize their situation or find another place to live. You can also ask for a social services provider to assist in the process.

Now, when you rent, you have to present 2 guarantees. If you don't pay, your house owner may ask the guarantees to pay the debt or they may have their houses auctioned. It doesn't work all of the times, but for most parts it does. But even if there's an eviction, social services locates the families in a temporary place such as a hotel or a very low rent house.

If you're alone, that's a whole different story, you're pretty much on your own, but families with kids are protected in most countries I know :2 cents:

$100? I don't just call bullshit, that is bullshit. As if they don't know anyone that could loan them $100 or have anything worth $100 they could pawn.

I'm sure it varies by state, but in Florida it takes much less than a month.

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other people have no problem with drafts or wars

perhaps they'd like to pay the real cost

From what I got out of it the CO eviction process is this:

tenant falls behind on rent
landlord issues 3 day notice to pay in full or face eviction
If rent is not paid after time has expired landlord can file eviction lawsuit
Tenant has until court date to pay rent in full
If rent is still not paid in full by court date judge can issue possession judgment
Possession Judgment orders tenant to vacate the premises within 48 hours
If tenant has not vacated after 48 hours has passed landlord must file for writ of restitution
If Writ of Restitution is granted by judge landlord must then notify local law enforcement
Tenant is forcibly removed

The article is worded to sound fucked, but to have them thrown out of their home their landlord had to appear before a judge twice. All I saw looking over things is it takes on average between 5 to 10 business days after filing paperwork with the clerk for court date to be scheduled and notices sent, the court date could be set anywhere from a week to month from there.

After being formally evicted they could have paid the rent in full and it could not have made any difference.

I do feel bad for the children, but their parents should have taken measures to prevent them from having to live through this humilation. They knew this was coming at least a week out, most likely alot longer. Pack that shit up, put it in a storage unit, stay with friend or family- do what you have to do. It fucking sucks but the parents already knew they had been evicted.

Actually, in the US, if you have children, you are given instant access to a space in a homeless shelter, with no waiting. The only way that you can be denied access is if you are using drugs or booze. As long as you are clean and sober, you have shelter if you have kids. When you see stories of people with kids living in cars, it is because the parents chose to keep on using, and eventually CPS will step in and take the kids so that at least they have shelter.



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the landlord has the right to evict someone if he wants imo
the article doesn't give any details, as why would anyone want details from news, its supposed to be headlines.

however, doing so over 100?? seems fishy...i suspect these two guys had a beef for sometime. probably the family owed the landlord money for awhile.

Evicting them like that is not the way to go, they could have been told to leave, and given time to leave providing they pay the rent.
60 days to get out...then evict.

I bet $100 that these people paid their cable bill every month.:2 cents: As well as plenty of junk food, beer, soda, DVDs, and other garbage for the body and mind.

I never said that is not the case in US, I never speak about things I don't know, and when I do, I always make clear I THINK it might be that way. I can also be wrong on things I think I know, of course, but in general, I try to be very precise on what I say and how I say it. I just answered Jarmusch who asked "in what civilized country is is different" so maybe you should address your answer to him.

Anyway, I wasn't speaking about homeless shelters either, I'm talking about real homes or hotel rooms (they're HORRIBLE, not saying they are cool or anything. I have seen 6 members families in a hotel room with 2 beds or 8/10 people in a 2 rooms apartment).
Homeless shelters are terribly sordid and exists only in big cities here, smaller cities usually handle this type of things with churches (as in "oh, look how good I am, I'll let those poor people sleep at the door--- OUTSIDE").

But the whole point is evictions aren't common, and when there's any, it's in the news. And they never, ever, EVER are left in the street, a truck comes to pick up the evicted people's belongings so they're safe until they decide where to go and social assistants help the families. At least, that's how it works in my country. And yes, it's a system that sometimes is abused, but the truth is people is safer and owners are paid. Period.

A very different issue is "occupied homes/lands". They usually end with violence and even deaths and it's used by scrupulousness politicians as a way to cause turmoil: they usually send very poor people, mainly immigrants from Bolivia, Peru and Paraguay to take abandoned houses or lands claiming for our Constitutional guarantee of the "right to a home" and when police tries to take them out they start to battle. We have one or two of those per year and it usually ends like this: at least 1 death and government re-locating people to "cut the scandal".

And if the parents were pornographers ? Would they be beyond the pale ?

Abide by the rules ...

Do the math. Had they given that cash to the people and not the car companies and bankers. How much would each family have gotten??

that is under the assumption that he was a shitty landlord who was living week to week money wise.. most aren't...