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cordoba 09-22-2011 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18441253)
Great find PJ.

Interesting article from someone who knows nothing about Eastern European or Asian women.

I've married to 2 of them and neither were what she makes out. No one would ever describe Eva or my second wife as she has. Both very powerful personalities, yet mot like the Western model. They get their own way in a much easier and less confrontational way.

Guys go to Thailand, Cambodia not because they can boss the girls around and dominate them. They go because they don't want a hooker who will boss and dominate them.

As DWB says a lot of the guys are unable to get laid nicely without paying for it in the Far East.

This Jill broad should try planting rice for a week and then she'll rush to the Girlie bar to sell her ass to get out. I've done it and it's the worse job imaginable. The stench off the paddy field is awful, then the heat and humidity, the glare coming off the water hitting your eyes, pull your feet out and brush the leeches off of them. And all for 50 cents a day. So she can have cheap rice on her plate. :mad:

I did it 25 years ago and scratched myself, still got the scar from where it went septic.

Great find PJ

Yea, good post Markham.

will76 09-22-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18442389)
Agree, I didn't really take much stock in the author's opinion on live cams after I read it was written by an 86 yr old female. I think the traffic stats in the article are somewhat inflated http://siteanalytics.compete.com/livejasmin.com/

On a side note though, the popularity of livejasmin.com proves you can still take a $10 domain and turn it into a top 50 web property. I think of the 50 or so cam programs I've seen come and go over the last decade, AWE's livejasmin.com is probably the most obscure and least brandable main cam site name I've seen. Unless I'm missing something, why "jasmin"? In the US, the name is generally spelled Jasmine. I've never seen any explanation of that name selection, does "jasmin" mean something in another language?

I wish I owned "livejasmine" the type ins and free traffic has to be decent. The idiot that owns it has a site about "teas". They could go get any domain and do that, what a waste of free cam traffic.

will76 09-22-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 18445195)
Quoted for the truth. :2 cents:

Hey Nalem, I see you removed .xxx link from your sig. what gives ?

helterskelter808 09-22-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18442389)
On a side note though, the popularity of livejasmin.com proves you can still take a $10 domain and turn it into a top 50 web property. I think of the 50 or so cam programs I've seen come and go over the last decade, AWE's livejasmin.com is probably the most obscure and least brandable main cam site name I've seen. Unless I'm missing something, why "jasmin"? In the US, the name is generally spelled Jasmine. I've never seen any explanation of that name selection, does "jasmin" mean something in another language?

I always thought it was about the best name of all because it was obscure. webcams.com like to jerk off over their name but IMHO it's bland and a poor relative of cams.com, Streamate is so bad they had to register Streammate too. Imlive is also no great shakes, IMO. LJ is unusual enough to be memorable. JOYourself OTOH.... I think they were just seeing how far they could go with absurd names.

As for LiveJasmin, it simply comes from their 'parent' Hungarian company, Jasmin, right? Perhaps the name is from a relative or child of one of the founders, though IIRC they used to have the flower on the jasmin.hu page years ago, so I always thought it was from the plant.

Tempest 09-22-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 18439743)
wow suprised it was Live Jasmine

It shouldn't... a HELL of a lot of the tube sites pop it open on a surfers first click... So in reality, it's getting a shit load of just "false" traffic making it appear to have more traffic than it really does.

campimp 09-22-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18445703)
I wish I owned "livejasmine" the type ins and free traffic has to be decent. The idiot that owns it has a site about "teas". They could go get any domain and do that, what a waste of free cam traffic.

he used to have a livejasmin clone on there. was typically showing about 250K a period in sales (80ish K net to him).

it changed into the tea site right around the time awe stepped up their adwords rules, so who knows, maybe he was spending a lot on traffic too... but at one time that site was making some serious sales

lazycash 09-22-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18445765)
I always thought it was about the best name of all because it was obscure. webcams.com like to jerk off over their name but IMHO it's bland and a poor relative of cams.com, Streamate is so bad they had to register Streammate too. Imlive is also no great shakes, IMO. LJ is unusual enough to be memorable. JOYourself OTOH.... I think they were just seeing how far they could go with absurd names.

As for LiveJasmin, it simply comes from their 'parent' Hungarian company, Jasmin, right? Perhaps the name is from a relative or child of one of the founders, though IIRC they used to have the flower on the jasmin.hu page years ago, so I always thought it was from the plant.

Not sure I follow your logic on more obscure = best. The name would most likely indicate a solo site cam model, certainly not a large live cam portal. I've never seen any indication there is a parent company by the name of Jasmin on their site or whois. At least streamate had the forethought to register their similar name whereas livejasmin failed to even register the most obvious typo livejasmine.

lazycash 09-22-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by campimp (Post 18445808)
he used to have a livejasmin clone on there. was typically showing about 250K a period in sales (80ish K net to him).

it changed into the tea site right around the time awe stepped up their adwords rules, so who knows, maybe he was spending a lot on traffic too... but at one time that site was making some serious sales

Yeah I remember that guy, he was killing it. Wonder if AWE took some legal action to get the domain and he quickly changed the site in order to keep the domain. You'd think if anything he could have struck a deal to sell the domain to AWE based on all the traffic it receives.

helterskelter808 09-22-2011 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18445847)
Not sure I follow your logic on more obscure = best.

Not always, but in this case I think yes. By obscure I mean least related to cams, therefore more memorable. How many people look stuff up on search.com? So called 'category killer' domains are bland and characterless, IMO. Would this place be the same if it was called adultforum.com?

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The name would most likely indicate a solo site cam model, certainly not a large live cam portal.
I've never thought that, though I can see why some people might. I think I have thought Imlive sounds more like a single-person-on-cam name though.

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At least streamate had the forethought to register their similar name whereas livejasmin failed to even register the most obvious typo livejasmine.
True. Though I always assumed the top AWE affiliates and/or people with "jasmin" domains were connected to LJ anyway, which is why they were allowed to use the name.

lazycash 09-23-2011 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18445925)
Not always, but in this case I think yes. By obscure I mean least related to cams, therefore more memorable. How many people look stuff up on search.com? So called 'category killer' domains are bland and characterless, IMO. Would this place be the same if it was called adultforum.com?



I've never thought that, though I can see why some people might. I think I have thought Imlive sounds more like a single-person-on-cam name though.



True. Though I always assumed the top AWE affiliates and/or people with "jasmin" domains were connected to LJ anyway, which is why they were allowed to use the name.

Only time obscure becomes more memorable than a premium self descriptive domain is if you poor a ton of cash into branding it. There was one affiliate I remember who registered many LJ variations and was one of their top affiliates, but not sure he is still promoting them anymore. I've been one of AWE's biggest critics over the years for their shady business practices, but I will say that they've done a hell of a job at successfully growing their product. Instead of spending a million on something like cams.com, they took a reg fee domain and spent a ton on traffic and its paid off.

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