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EukerVoorn 09-24-2011 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 18449424)
I'm sorry but what the fuck did you expect to happen when you opened a paypal account using a fake name? I mean seriously... your paypal horror story only happened because you were an idiot.

By nickname I mean for example Bill if your official name is William. So you register it to Bill Jones instead of William Jones. Would be nice if PayPal would tell you straight from the start that you have the names exactly as written in your passport.

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helterskelter808 09-24-2011 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 18448927)
The edit button appears to be broken so let me explain what I mean by "hard to believe".. It's not that I think you're doing anything shady, but if my bank is collecting interest on the money I have in my account, then surely a company like yours is doing the same right? I mean, I doubt you guys are profiting on the transfer fees alone.

Yep. It's inconceivable that they're not earning interest on people's money, which is fine if someone chooses to leave their money in their account. But it clearly opens up a motivation for Paxum to make it hard for people to withdraw their money when Paxum is profiting from them being unable to do so.

People were complaining about this Paxum "ID verification" process months ago.

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The problem I see though is that if you are collecting interest on funds that the account owner cannot access.. that can indeed be perceived as shady business practice.
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IMHO, what you should do is follow the same procedures as other financial type institutions... require identification upon creation of the account, and funds can be neither received or sent until the owner of the account verifies is.
You just have to ask why they would make it easy for you to get money sent to "your account" (aka their bank account) without verification, but require you to jump through hoops to withdraw from their bank account. Even Epassporte didn't do that.

EukerVoorn 09-24-2011 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18449537)
For the record, we ask for one ID and you can never transfer funds into your Payoneer account until you have been approved, so you will never have that situation.

Sounds good. I hope you and Paxum will get bigger than PayPal.

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helterskelter808 09-24-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18449559)
By nickname I mean for example Bill if your official name is William. So you register it to Bill Jones instead of William Jones. Would be nice if PayPal would tell you straight from the start that you have the names exactly as written in your passport.

Paypal doesn't require a passport for verification... does it?

drmadcat 09-24-2011 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18449591)
Paypal doesn't require a passport for verification... does it?

it does and im starting to get pissed off ive sent

driver licence
driver licence notarized copy of the Driver License
bank statement

and its still not enough

helterskelter808 09-24-2011 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by drmadcat (Post 18449618)
it does and im starting to get pissed off ive sent

driver licence
driver licence notarized copy of the Driver License
bank statement

and its still not enough

I was talking about Paypal. :winkwink: Too many P. P. P. names. Never used Paxum; never trusted them. There was a thread about this very same problem months ago, people sending shitloads of documents and not being verified, so I'm surprised they haven't done anything about it.

Personally I think giving out your passport is bad enough in this day and age, with identity theft rampant, but handing out all your IDs and docs to God knows who is lunacy, IMHO.

Talia_Payoneer 09-24-2011 09:13 AM

Well, I can't speak for PayPal, but I know that we required to get AN ID by the regulations we follow to be able to issue the MasterCard, but like I said, we only ask for one ID (as long as it is clear), and we let you choose which - a driver's license is fine. All of the companies ARE dealing with money, after all, and these aren't prepaid cards that are sold at a gas station, they are related to a company that has about a million regulations to uphold (we do, I assume Paxum does have some, too).

drmadcat 09-24-2011 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18449654)
I was talking about Paypal. :winkwink: Too many P. P. P. names. Never used Paxum; never trusted them. There was a thread about this very same problem months ago, people sending shitloads of documents and not being verified, so I'm surprised they haven't done anything about it.

Personally I think giving out your passport is bad enough in this day and age, with identity theft rampant, but handing out all your IDs and docs to God knows who is lunacy, IMHO.

my bad did not read paypal
but i sell loads of crap on ebay in my first week my paypal account was frozen because they suspected me of fraud because too much money was going in to my paypal account so i basicly lost about $800 for 3 weeks while i had to send them my

abn number
business name
invoices for the stock that i purchased
the tracking numbers for the stock that i had sent

this was all the stuff i had to provide which paypal waited 3 weeks for them to open my account again i must have rang them 20 times the stang thing is they said they will not open my account untill they could prove i sent all my items which i shipped via express post which was not traceable

paypal is just one big fucking headache

RuthB 09-24-2011 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by drmadcat (Post 18449666)
my bad did not read paypal
but i sell loads of crap on ebay in my first week my paypal account was frozen because they suspected me of fraud because too much money was going in to my paypal account so i basicly lost about $800 for 3 weeks while i had to send them my

abn number
business name
invoices for the stock that i purchased
the tracking numbers for the stock that i had sent

this was all the stuff i had to provide which paypal waited 3 weeks for them to open my account again i must have rang them 20 times the stang thing is they said they will not open my account untill they could prove i sent all my items which i shipped via express post which was not traceable

paypal is just one big fucking headache

hi drmadcat - I've left you several messages on ICQ. Can you please respond to me there, or via email or any of the other IM options in my sig?

Thanks so much :)

drmadcat 09-24-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 18449674)
hi drmadcat - I've left you several messages on ICQ. Can you please respond to me there, or via email or any of the other IM options in my sig?

Thanks so much :)

i dont have icq ive sent an email to [email protected]

Loch 09-24-2011 12:46 PM

They lost my company docs from a verified business account, asked them to figure it out and never did hear back lol

Ruth was very helpful, but the phone support was horrid. I do not typically knock companies online, but when they start randomly loosing our company docs i have had it.

EukerVoorn 09-24-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18449591)
Paypal doesn't require a passport for verification... does it?

If you receive more than $2500 in a year they freeze your account and ask you to identify yourself. Same happens when they catch you using PayPal for porn related payments, unless you're a pirate, then they'll let you get away with it :Oh crap

Erotic hardware (toys, DVDs) are no longer banned by PayPal by the way, online xxx DVD shops can now accept PayPal.

helterskelter808 09-24-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18450123)
If you receive more than $2500 in a year they freeze your account and ask you to identify yourself. Same happens when they catch you using PayPal for porn related payments, unless you're a pirate, then they'll let you get away with it :Oh crap

Oh, I see. I thought they just had verification with bank accounts and suchlike. It's still not a bad limit for a "fake" account (I don't mean your account is fake, I mean if someone wanted to create one), as it can still be spent online or transferred, just not withdrawn.

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Erotic hardware (toys, DVDs) are no longer banned by PayPal by the way, online xxx DVD shops can now accept PayPal.
I think AFF pays out in Paypal, or used to. Unless I'm misrememberizing. And/or maybe other sponsors too. Not sure how and why that works though.

vdbucks 09-24-2011 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18449559)
By nickname I mean for example Bill if your official name is William. So you register it to Bill Jones instead of William Jones. Would be nice if PayPal would tell you straight from the start that you have the names exactly as written in your passport.

Go read here... www.paypalsucks.com - thousands of idiots like me

Sorry, maybe I was a little harsh in my last post.. but at the end of the day, you cannot open a bank account using the name Bill if your given name is William, so what makes you think you should be able to get away with it with paypal, or any other institution that handles money? It's inconceivable. And, while I find paypal to have a ton of annoyances, I don't see this as being one of them, considering it should be common sense to use your given name when it comes to money...


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