Before laws were made against CP it was still legal. So.....?

The age of consent is different to laws to do with pornography (leaving aside the fact she looks about 12 or younger in some of those pics, not 16 or 18).

For example, it's no longer "legal" for 16 year olds to appear in porn in the UK or other Euro countries, because those countries have changed their laws to fall in line with the US law of 18+. The reason for that, aside from possible US pressure, was probably to protect people under 16, who producers could claim were over 16. Less easy to claim a 14 year old is 18 than 16, right?

I also think the UK may be one of those countries with very strict rules against CP, where someone only has to "look" underage for there to be a prosecution. So regardless of whether they are "legal" in the US, they are not legal elsewhere.

The fuck? Is that from that site? I was afraid to click it and now i know why.

1) She's 25 if she's a day. The body is what throws you off

2) Dunno if she's anorexic, but she is unhealthily skinny to the point that I'd lay money she doesn't menstruate

3) Whoever made her wear that godawful dime store lingerie set should be slapped

I think probably in a majority of countries those photos would be classified as virtual child pornography.

And remember that Europe now defines posession of cp as simply viewing an illegal image in your browser. And very shortly the EU is going to introduce minimum 3 year prison sentances for possession (including viewing) of cp.

In other words, to all the European webmasters here, who perhaps make up close to half of the board members - if the police ever take a look at your harddrive, you will be going down for three years as a paedophile as a result of viewing this thread.

These laws are beyond crazy, but perhaps gfy should keep in mind that they are the reality in Europe and other places.

I'm clearing my browser cache just in case...:thumbsup

If they offer hosted FLV's the majority of gfy will start backtracking.

The only point at issue is that even viewing these images is illegal in many of the countries in which board members are living - even if the titties (or lack thereof) are obscured.

From a moral perspective, the main issue should be whether these type of images lead to or reduce real offending. I remember reading recently that such a study was performed and it was found that virtual cp reduced the rate of real offending. I think the truly sick fucks are those who would prefer real children being abused over allowing adults to fantasise in their own minds about whatever they want to.

primordial dwarfism is what i think its called

definitely not my taste. I like my girls looking of age, being of age, and having some shape.

Oh no!!!

(Bahahahahahahaha... sorry...bahahaha..)

Yeah, that's from the site.

Everyone has their own idea of sexy, personally I think women who look like women are where it's at.

http://wallpapers.skins.be/aria-giov...24x768-586.jpg

Big jugs, big hips, little waspy waist- Aria Giovanni, Tura Satana, Pam Grier.

I don't get the under developed / under age look. Going back to the article the posted the other day, if that site really takes off I think that says way worse things about our society and sexuality than that the success of Live Jasmine ever could. :Oh crap

ohh shitt I run a teen blog and that is not one I would use for it even if she is of age, just to risky..

Now THAT is hot !!!! Go Aria... :pimp

wot?????

creeeeeeeeeeepy

according to her passport she was born on 1986 meaning that she has 25 years now
http://www.angiecutie.com/webmaster.php

you can download her passport from there...
but question is - how old are pictures?

You didn't know that the Uk had changed the law to 18, or you don't understand that it was due to American pressure?

Its legal to have sex at 16 over here in the UK, however it is illegal to shoot porn content if the models are below the age of 18

There's nothing to stop people fantasising in their own minds about anything. And this model is not being abused in any way she is just posing. Some people will say there is nothing wrong with kids doing that too. In fact didn't there used to be sites where they had kids posing 'provocatively', while clothed, which got into trouble? Anyway, me, I think there is something wrong with all of it.

For every argument about 'fake CP' being a substitute for real abuse, there's at least one argument saying that this kind of material encourages it, condones it, and is perhaps used by sickos to encourage kids to copy what's in the pics.

My personal opinion is this shit should be prohibited and I am totally bemused by people here who argue otherwise, presumably using totally misguided ideas about 'free expression'. The entire motivation for pandering to this 'interest' with this is to make money; nothing to do with free speech or giving someone an alternative to abusing kids.

It's legal to fuck your 16 year old girlfriend up the ass here but if you look at a self-shot pic online of a 25 year old woman with the body of a 17 year old then you will get 3 years jail time.

No thanks i will have to pass this time

Can I get a "Hi Daddy" fan sign?

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Didn't read the thread, so im not sure if it's been mentioned. Thats the totalsupercuties girl, she's been around for a long time now. Definitely of age. Obviously i can't say whether she was when she started though. But she's always looked very young, even to this day.

SolarCash has been promoting her for ages. Im wondering if they own her solo site considering I don't see her on the TSC frontpage

No doubt. I want a woman who looks like she might know what she is doing. On the other hand, this girls gonna be a hot milf if she doesn't starve to death first.

Promoting this pedo shit, will only end in tears.

Tears do make the best lube.

Yea, Senator Mark Foley introduced a law that put a stop to that - you know, the one who was later busted for talking dirty to little boys. Shame he couldn't of just shuffled one off to a twink site when he had the urge instead of harrassing minors in real life.


Yes, but there's actual evidence that it acts as a substitute for real abuse.

I'm curious as to know where you would draw the line. Presumably you would like all teen porn sites banned. I don't think I've ever seen any legal 18/19 teen site that doesn't make some reference to 'innocence' or 'nubile' or 'soft' etc etc.

Are you equally outraged by gore sites that contain videos of real children being beaten up, run over by trucks etc and which get thousands of hits daily and whose webmasters often come in here asking for link trades and sponsors?

Anway, the beef I have with this site being in here is that even viewing such pics is illegal in half of the world and American peeps here should be aware of this when posting them.

These images should be removed, however we know how slow the mods are at doing anything so the sickos can whack off just a little longer.

As pointed out, this is VIRTUAL CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. These images are not legal in Australia or many other jurisdictions.

Wake up Eric and kill this thread please :2 cents:

I've avoided promoting this one like the plague.

Too dodgy for here in the UK if you ask me.

I think one of the co-owners of the prog is from the UK too I believe. Wonder if he'll be having a talk with Special Branch next time he goes through customs :)

I think I'll give pushing the girl with a Russian passport a miss.

She looks way younger than 25 and whether those IDs are legit or not is something I wouldn't risk my freedom over.

I don't speak for everyone at solarcash; but I agree with the negative and the positive posts in this thread. Like the wording in the email... It's almost disturbing.

But; she's of age and we have a notary, three pieces of picture id, birth certificate and even her old high school ID card. We fought hard to get her a solo site on CCBILL and boy we know who to talk to we don't have a typical rep.

It got to the banks and got rejected, not by ccbill. Iur documentation is well beyond the call of duty. We have released a two pieces of picture id on her webmaster page. First time in history with her approval of course.

In the end if you have odd teen traffic try it; if not don't..

Done... well mine anyway....

i guess sometimes you have to choose between money and morals...

we all have a different barometer and sometimes that barometer only serves us..

meaning that some people that might find this offensive may not find credit card fraud something morally wrong...

anyway, to each their own...

good luck with your site...






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Why would you presume that? Can't you tell the difference between children and (late) teens? This 'model' doesn't even look like an early teen, she looks younger than that. Sometimes far younger.

Do you even know what those words mean? None of them mean or imply "underage". Nubile, for example, means a sexually mature woman.

Anyway there is a considerable difference between words and images. Not least legally speaking.

I can't stand gore sites, and ever since I have been online I have avoided shock or tasteless sites and images. I even avoid 'gore' movies. Not sure what it has to do with this subject though.

We do teen solo sites; she shoots her own content and has a right to earn money. If that upsets people then don't promote it. The bash campaign would never happen if she was fat; well maybe it would, but not to this level.

It's not like we are the first have her online either

http://www.heartbreakers.info/3223/

for example; not retarded here we do our homework not like we just fell off the turnip truck.

Of cause i knew but bollox to the american pressure bit, more like EU pressure.

She looks old in the face to me. Im not surprised that she's 25. If she wasn't dressed and made up like a teenager this wouldn't be as wrong as it is.

Double check that ID:2 cents:

If she was fat you wouldn't even be promoting her.

You're all so quick to label this CP when we know shes legal but you're happy to send your traffic to sites with multiple prechecked cross sales and a history of banging cards. Its great to see you all have such high morals! :Oh crap

sure, she has a 3.5 year old beauty pageants face but she dosnt even touch little lupe...

She's kind of ugly lol, or just weird looking. Just don't get why most webmasters confuse 2257 and age of consent, that's one of the most basic laws you should know, it is legal in almost all US states to bang a 16yo look it up, just keep the cam in a box that day lol or you're fucked. Age of consent is a state law tho and varies from state to state and is even different within a state if it is straight or gay, some places it is still illegal to have gay sex and even when legal you can't do it with a 16yo, even tho a straight couple can, also keep in mind the cops are just as dumb as webmasters and many think it is illegal to bang a 16yo lol, so just to be safe don't bang a 16yo :D

When I was in college Tawnee Stone came on the scene... I can't imagine life without her. So to people saying she looks too young... In college I wasn't looking at the seniors only...

Oh wait? She was a child model?

I don't like promoting them when they become of age. Just doesn't seem right.

Lupe is way hotter, before and after the boob job.

America applied a lot of pressure, just like they did and are still doing in Japan. When Club Seventeen was the most popular adult video brand in Europe in the 80's and 90's, America didn't really care. When the internet took off, and millions of Americans could download videos of Dutch 16 year old girls being banged, the Dutch government was forced almost overnight to raise the minimum age for porn to 18.

But you're right, in Europe we have been taken over by eUSSR femi-nazi bitches who can simply dictate new laws every week and every European government has to comply. That's why our laws go way beyond America's now, and why every European webmaster here faces three years of avoiding picking up the soap in the prison showers for simply viewing this thread.

Ironically, the Club Seventeen PayServe guy has a pic of a girl in his avatar who looks 14 (obviously she's over 18 and it's legal in the US, but in Europe, if a cop finds a trace of that avatar on your harddrive, you're going down for at least 3 years according to forthcoming EU legislation).

Are you making this statement based on fact?

Of the people in the 89 posts above yours, you know these people are happy sending traffic to sites with multiple pre-checked cross sales and a history of banging cards?

Or are you just trying to make some kind of argument that sounds good but doesn't actually work?

She's ok...but the presentation with binky and trying to make her look like a kid are disgusting. I think as webmasters we should be moving market away from this stuff and focus on legal and ethical stuff. LOL, I know its porn and mostly 'insect politics' prevail here but seriously. That site is just way too much. Yuk.

Don't view them in the UK then.
Some things posted on thehun are illegal in the USA but not where he is at.
Where is the line drawn? Epoch dropped Sleep stes because it simulates rape, when we Know it is not. CCBILL still handles some. We also seen Max get some time.
Some places here in the USA goatsee would prob get you some jail time, so ban that to.
I don't like blacks on blondes those big dicks are obscene, lol ban that!