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bean-aid 09-23-2011 10:12 AM

charge it back

Rochard 09-23-2011 10:20 AM

What a bunch of fucking assholes.

L-Pink 09-23-2011 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l-pink (Post 18447006)
so if 100 people try to reserve the same domain 99 will lose their money?

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???

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PornMD 09-23-2011 10:28 AM

It's amazing how ICM kept saying the adult industry was on board and shit like that, and they're nowhere to be found here in threads like this. Isn't this the largest adult webmaster forum, aka what should be their biggest source of customers if what they said was true?

janeyweb 09-23-2011 03:26 PM

Thanks everyone for your comments - this is why I love GFY!

I might not post here regularly but I do and have watched the boards for years and have learnt a lot from it. One post here today and I finally got a response from ICM :-)

This afternoon I've received an email from the registry saying they have been trying to contact me, as well as a post appearing on the 'question' I had left days ago.

http://www.janeyweb.com/ICMxxx/1.jpg

Prior to my post, I had not received any emails since my last post in their members area on 17th.

http://www.janeyweb.com/ICMxxx/2.jpg
http://www.janeyweb.com/ICMxxx/3.jpg
http://www.janeyweb.com/ICMxxx/4.jpg

I have been sitting waiting on this (and any time previously they replied to my 'question' I got an email) so have not cleared my spam/deleted items for days
in case I missed something important - more than ten years of spam OCCASIONALLY I delete one I need to read by accident and paranoia had set in!

I've also checked my phone number on our whois/domain info and also on my registration profile as a member of the sponsored community. It is correct on both counts.

http://www.janeyweb.com/ICMxxx/5.jpg
http://www.janeyweb.com/ICMxxx/6.jpg

We have been receiving calls on this number no problem, including calls from our registrar Easyspace regarding the .xxx registration process and refunds/ trying charging back (READ BIG headache)...

We have a functioning answerphone. There have been no phone calls on this line from ICM and there have been no messages left by ICM.

I am now told that I am part of their 'Talent Program' which they are in the process of rolling out and they are working on a way to get the domain name to me....

http://www.janeyweb.com/ICMxxx/1.jpg

I did a search on 'Talent Program' which showed no results (same as I did when they threw in 'Premium List' - no results)

http://www.janeyweb.com/ICMxxx/7.jpg

Firstly I don't understand why they didn't just tell me this from the get go - previously the name was on their 'Premium List' now it is in the 'Talent Program?

Secondly I still dont get why we weren't given the domain straight off being that we're the top level domain owners!

GGGGRRRRR!!!

Tired UK webmaster, wife and parent who should be chillin on a Friday night...

CyberHustler 09-23-2011 03:28 PM

The power of GFY...

Internet Guy 09-23-2011 03:48 PM

Talent Program? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Hey ICM: Fuck you, leeching faggots.

cherrylula 09-23-2011 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18447006)
So if 100 people try to reserve the same domain 99 will lose their money?

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I guess they'll have 99 chargebacks too? :1orglaugh

cherrylula 09-23-2011 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18447175)
We've been trying to tell you this for 6 months, yet you continued on with your desire to buy a .xxx domain

I'm still going to buy one dumbass, you're lucky I even noticed your post as I scrolled. :2 cents:

papill0n 09-23-2011 05:04 PM

let this be a lesson for other idiots like you

alias 09-23-2011 05:05 PM

Fuck .xxx

lazycash 09-23-2011 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 18448612)
I'm still going to buy one dumbass, you're lucky I even noticed your post as I scrolled. :2 cents:


Yes I'm very lucky, your insightful witty reply made my day, thanks.

V_RocKs 09-23-2011 05:14 PM

.xxx is for people that buy an iPhone because it is cooler than an Android phone.

will76 09-23-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janeyweb (Post 18446696)
We were then told by the registrar that janeyweb.xxx AND the second domain we were 'interested in' were blocked so they couldn't buy them for us.

ICM confirmed that these domains were on their "Premium List".

This means that they are not available in Sunrise A even though I own the top level domains. They MAY be up for auction in November (but they MAY NOT), or we can wait for Landrush in December if someone else didn't already get them or if the registry actually decide to release them at all!


I don't feel bad for you, but it does suck that you got screwed. At least you were only trying to buy the .xxx version of your .com and not speculating. If you felt tricked into thinking you needed to buy the .xxx of your domain then that is your misguided decision to make.

Obviously if janeyweb is a "premium name" then any name is. No offense, but JaneyWeb isn't exactly premium or sort after. This would mean that ICM lied to everyone yet again (big surprise) just because you own the .com doesn't mean you will have first shot at your domain much less will you pay normal registration fees if you were to actually get it. For all you know they can put it to auction and then have shill bidders drive up the price you would have to pay.

Just think of the people who actually do have good one or two word generic keyword domains, those people are fucked. All of those will go up to auction and will be sold to the highest bidder. What a bunch of lies ICM told everyone.

The icing on the cake is that you pay the "deposit" and then you lose your money when you did everything according to what they were saying. I really hope that fat piece of shit Stuart gets ass rapped by someone over all this bullshit.

will76 09-23-2011 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 18448612)
I'm still going to buy one dumbass, you're lucky I even noticed your post as I scrolled. :2 cents:

Actually your dumb ass said you weren't going to buy one without a "guarantee" and I doubt ICM is going to make any exceptions for your 1 domain, dumb cunt.

What domain do you plan on registering btw, Monique.xxx ?

The Porn Nerd 09-23-2011 08:18 PM

Sorry to hear about your experiences Janey, and thanks for sharing in an attempt to help others (and get some action on your own behalf).

What I want to know is: why is Stuart Lawley such a prick to the porn world? It's his low self-esteem, right? You would think all those years in front of a mirror, telling himself he's "good enough, smart enough and gosh darn it people like me" would've had some positive effect. I mean, isn't he a Senator now? WTF?

Lucy - CSC 09-23-2011 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18448741)
Obviously if janeyweb is a "premium name" then any name is. No offense, but JaneyWeb isn't exactly premium or sort after.

I would say that JaneyWeb is a premium name due to the branding she has in the UK from magazine appearances etc.

It is a quality amateur brand name. I used to read a few of the magazines that I worked on the shoots for and she was often in them.

Personally I think they realised she is a brand and decided to lie, shove it in a fake auction and see how much money they could squeeze from her.

alias 09-23-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18448858)
Personally I think they realised she is a brand and decided to lie, shove it in a fake auction and see how much money they could squeeze from her.

I agree.

No girls on internet, why don't you just get a real account and take your lumps.

will76 09-23-2011 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18448858)
I would say that JaneyWeb is a premium name due to the branding she has in the UK from magazine appearances etc.

It is a quality amateur brand name. I used to read a few of the magazines that I worked on the shoots for and she was often in them.

Personally I think they realised she is a brand and decided to lie, shove it in a fake auction and see how much money they could squeeze from her.

From looking at her alexa rank (8,977,038) it looks like she gets at most 50 hits a day. Sorry, don't care how much branding she did in UK magazines... Either way, I go back to my first assumption, if "JaneyWeb" is considered Premium then Stuart is going to call just about every domain that is registered for more than a year and has any traffic as "premium". I doubt he referenced the fact that she brands her domain in UK magazines as the reason to put her in the "premium" column as he reviews millions of domains one by one in deciding if they go into the "shit" pile or "premium" pile. In all honestly he can give a fuck if the domain is considered "popular" "Premium" or whatever, its the fact that someone wants it that he is classifying it as premium so he can try to get more money out of them.

Knowing that he did this to "JaneyWeb" is now proof to me that he will do this to everyone. By me saying that I am not knocking JaneyWeb. Just stating a fact that he isn't sorting every .com on the net into premium or not. I thought he would take the top 100 or at most 500 and make them premium. However if he has made it down to domains like JaneyWeb then obviously they are not deciding this on a domain by domain basis and just making them all "premium" when someone wants them.

P.S. I think your sig is garbage btw.

adult-help 09-23-2011 08:50 PM

i wont bother buying .xxx domains

u-Bob 09-24-2011 03:29 AM

You should have known the ICM Registry can't be trusted. There's plenty of information out there. ... a lesson learned the hard way.

EukerVoorn 09-24-2011 05:52 AM

As you know I'm buying 12 xxx domains that I know own as a .com (sunrise 2) and I can't believe what I'm reading here. I'm happy that the process got paused by the reseller in Holland due to not matching WHOIS records, I'll refer them to this discussion and tell that that
1) don't bother going ahead with applying for xxx domains if you aren't sure if they are available
2) Fuck me and I'll do a credit card chargeback through my French bank
If they can't live with the above 2 terms they can stop with the procedure completely.
I'm prepared to pay 1600 euro for these 12 domains but I'm not prepared for paying 1600 euro and getting screwed and not getting anything. I'll end up killing someone and spending the rest of my life in jail.

Oracle Porn 09-24-2011 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18449390)
As you know I'm buying 12 xxx domains that I know own as a .com (sunrise 2) and I can't believe what I'm reading here. I'm happy that the process got paused by the reseller in Holland due to not matching WHOIS records, I'll refer them to this discussion and tell that that
1) don't bother going ahead with applying for xxx domains if you aren't sure if they are available
2) Fuck me and I'll do a credit card chargeback through my French bank
If they can't live with the above 2 terms they can stop with the procedure completely.
I'm prepared to pay 1600 euro for these 12 domains but I'm not prepared for paying 1600 euro and getting screwed and not getting anything. I'll end up killing someone and spending the rest of my life in jail.

stick your euros up your french ass

jerryb 09-24-2011 06:07 AM

I wouldn't buy a .xxx domain if they were 10 bux ... total ripoff IMHO. And, registrars are phone calling me begging me to protect my .com domains by registering the .xxx domain ... piss on them and the high prices wanted for .xxx domains ... NOT HERE.

EukerVoorn 09-24-2011 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 18449396)
stick your euros up your french ass

Maybe I should, but the ass is Dutch.

Barry-xlovecam 09-24-2011 08:25 AM

Officially, with regard to .xxx
 
On a personal level I was pleased to see that the registrar who had bought a sponsorship at the Prague show with the intent of registering .xxx domain names ? sat alone in an empty "lounge area". (I was only at the Prague Show a few days.)

Officially, ACWebconnecting BV the owner/operator of XloveCam.com has registered our trademark names for legal reasons without the intention of actively operating from that sTLD or being compliant with any rule or policy, as to content or business practice, as ICM may promulgate, now or at future time.

The Porn Nerd 09-24-2011 09:45 AM

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EukerVoorn 09-24-2011 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18449598)
On a personal level I was pleased to see that the registrar who had bought a sponsorship at the Prague show with the intent of registering .xxx domain names ? sat alone in an empty "lounge area". (I was only at the Prague Show a few days.)

Officially, ACWebconnecting BV the owner/operator of XloveCam.com has registered our trademark names for legal reasons without the intention of actively operating from that sTLD or being compliant with any rule or policy, as to content or business practice, as ICM may promulgate, now or at future time.

Doesn't that still make you a victim of blackmailing? "register your domain before someone else does". Sunrise 3 is funny; if you have a mainstream trademark and don't want it to be used for porn, you can pay us and we make sure nobody will register it as an .xxx . Now if someone would register sony.xxx , Sony would sue that person. But sueing is more expensive than paying for sunrise 3 so a lot of companies are going through the sunrise 3 procedure probably, basically because they're getting blackmailed.

will76 09-24-2011 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18449431)
Maybe I should, but the ass is Dutch.

Then shove a wooden shoe up it. :winkwink:

EukerVoorn 09-24-2011 05:22 PM

I had to wear clogs as a kid, they really hurt your ankles. But I think the first Dutch immigrants who built New Amsterdam were wearing clogs too. Now would you say to a 7 feet tall monkey in Harlem that he should shove his clogs up his ass? :1orglaugh

From our family album: my brother, me, and my sister, 1968, Zeedijk Amsterdam.

http://resolver.kb.nl/resolve?urn=ur...290&size=large

L-Pink 09-24-2011 05:25 PM

Cool photo, your brother looks like a little hard ass.

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Lint 09-24-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18450174)
Now would you say to a 7 feet tall monkey in Harlem that he should shove his clogs up his ass? :1orglaugh

What do you mean?

EukerVoorn 09-24-2011 05:33 PM

He ended up in the Amsterdam crime scene collecting money for pimps and drug dealers and was shot dead at the age of 29 already and my sister became a prostitute. I'm the only one who had a normal life with a normal carreer.

papill0n 09-24-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lint (Post 18450180)
What do you mean?

yeah what did you mean by that ?

who you calling a monkey there ?

helterskelter808 09-24-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18450174)
I had to wear clogs as a kid, they really hurt your ankles. But I think the first Dutch immigrants who built New Amsterdam were wearing clogs too. Now would you say to a 7 feet tall monkey in Harlem that he should shove his clogs up his ass? :1orglaugh

Why the racism? :Oh crap

Quote:

From our family album: my brother, me, and my sister, 1968, Zeedijk Amsterdam.

http://resolver.kb.nl/resolve?urn=ur...290&size=large
Strange to think at the same time in the same place, Jim was getting so stoned the Doors had to play without him.


EukerVoorn 09-24-2011 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18450189)
Why the racism?

The joke's about Will being a 2 feet tall monkey. There's also white folks living in Harlem. Harlem is named after Haarlem in Holland. But a joke that needs to be explained is a shit joke, right? Slap me :Oh crap


Quote:

Strange to think at the same time in the same place, Jim was getting so stoned the Doors had to play without him.
Apparently he wasn't THAT stoned. Before the gig he went into the Red Light District, visited a prostitute, fell in love with her, got drunk and forgot about the time. The ass :1orglaugh

helterskelter808 09-24-2011 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18450208)
The joke's about Will being a 2 feet tall monkey. There's also white folks living in Harlem. Harlem is named after Haarlem in Holland. But a joke that needs to be explained is a shit joke, right? Slap me :Oh crap

Less misunderstanding with Breuklyn. :)

Quote:

Apparently he wasn't THAT stoned. Before the gig he went into the Red Light District, visited a prostitute, fell in love with her, got drunk and forgot about the time. The ass :1orglaugh
In love? He had both ears when he died.

EukerVoorn 09-24-2011 06:30 PM

Mmmm I don't get the ear joke :Oh crap

helterskelter808 09-24-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18450229)
Mmmm I don't get the ear joke :Oh crap

Well it was meant to be in keeping with the Dutch theme of the thread and a reference to Van Gogh and why he cut off his ear. But since I had to explain it, now the theme of the thread is just shit jokes. :upsidedow

EukerVoorn 09-24-2011 08:10 PM

hahahaha yup :)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dipFMJckZOM


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