Cheese on toast.

Yeah but he does have a good eye and he can articulate what is wrong with a visual.

I think you were meant to post here https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1040566 :thumbsup

i thought you were going to teach english to schoolgirls or something. couldn't get the clearance from the authorities?

Of course he has, he was trained, as a furniture salesman.

That's what I'm doing. Also know how to structure a scene or a clip for a sample preview.

Any shooter with some decent experience can and should look at other shooters work and give some ideas. That how both get improve themselves. One gets the others views of content.

This pornoCMS thing, I am liking it the more I am working with it. I like the customising of the pages with a few PHP code snipets. Still massaging the CSS template, but over the years I have done plenty of split A/B testing with awful shit designs from "adult" graphic designers to fantastic designs but the punter doesnt actually give a fuck. Seems the idiots are more concerned with good content, daily updated and telegraphed as to whats coming, whats new, and whats unseen. Who would have thunk that content was still actually king, LOL

thanks for the props! as always, 50% off the first month for hosted accounts and 10% off custom work for clients. support is free :)

thanks as always Mutt.

it is far easier and cheaper to customize PornCMS than eX. the PHP programmers that have taken the time to learn how to do it realize after a few days how ridiculously easy it is. there's a main body template and several page templates. all PHP, not smarty. easy display functions for pulling in data and content, and i give away code snippets all the time.

if we are hired for the customization, its $300 for a template skin install, and hourly if you want all pages customized. i rarely see a custom install go over $600, and once its installed you don't need to mess with the template again. i dont see this as a negative lol

i have 2 partners, one in the UK and one in Italy. if something happens to me, or i retire (actually retire, not still try to make sales of shitty content on gfy all day), they will continue the business. it would take global thermal nuclear war to shut us down, but at that point the US govt will take the Internet back.

thanks man :thumbsup

ya we have done custom work on BriannaBeachLive but only to implement the designs he supplies. that site and his other fetish sites do make a lot of money. he started on clips4sale and then opened his own paysite, where he makes more sales and keeps a lot more profit. this client is paying $400 a month in PornCMS fees alone (plus 300-500 a month in custom work), which is far more than any of Markhams' sites make a month, despite the idiotic Alexa traffic comparison Paul keeps posting on multiple threads.

thanks for the plagiarism. Paul doesn't have "more like this". he stole his marketing advice from my "PornCMS Guide to Solo Model Profits" here:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1009157

he conveniently forgot to credit the source because he is a worthless piece of shit.
:321GFY

Yes the CMS looks good and no complaints about it.

It's PK's claim to his marketing skills I question.

He's telling people where to go and go there often. It's like someone saying, go to the kitchen, go there often to learn how to cook. And leaving it there. What's vital is to tell people what to do when they get there.

Opening a site with his CMS is easy, turning yourself into a product that you can sell is hard and can't be taught with a scripted page. It needs someone with experience in your niche, amateur I assume, to look at who you are, what you can do, how you do it and shape you to do it better. I gave some very general guidelines. Giving them to you and Lelulove is where it has to stop. After that its a one to one consultation. Because what works for you, won't work for her and visa versa.

You're a personality and to create you into a better product needs personal one to one work.

If you would like an outsiders view of what you do and some suggestions how to improve and widen the appeal hit me up. I will only talk product. It's something I've been doing 34 years and why people know my name.

I do have more like it, learned from you. More places to tell people where to go. To put up a site and use your CMS.

The reason for posting it was to show how easy it is to learn this basic way of marketing. Just go search for it on the Internet. It's there in abundance and everyone can learn it.

Also waiting for people to tell me it's clueless marketing to tell them it's yours. :1orglaugh

On the evidence you put out your marketing skills are very very poor. You don't teach people to drive by telling them to sit in the drivers seat once a day. Teach cooking cooking by telling them to go to Facebook once a day. Teaching marketing is so much more than that.

When teaching marketing you need to tell them how to research their product, their market sector, their target customer, not just tell them to do it, tell the HOW to do it.

When teaching them how to market themselves as the product you can't do that by your methods. You need to look at them as an individual and improve them on a one to one basis. As said the advice one person needs is going to be different to the advice the next person needs. In your sector of porn the people are selling themselves, personality and character as a product within their niche. You can't do that with a scripted page. It needs one to one work.

Stick to selling a CMS that's good and let others teach the owners of the CMS to get the best out of it.

Now you can call me an idiot, doesn't make you right.

What would prove you right is me working with one of your clients and seeing how I could shape them into a better porn product than you can. That's something I've only done 34 years with countless models, it's what porn shooting is all about and you on the evidence have never done.

I bet you 10 quid you don't last 7 days without replying to me. Especially if I mention what your new job is all about. :)

xoxoxoxo

He has said, and I quote, "teachers must have an iron will" not to fuck the children in their class.

So if they read that, it could have scuppered his plans.

Yeah.. didn't think so.

Anyone taking your advice on the structure of their website(s) might as well come up with their own ideas. It's all the same gamble. :2 cents:

You don't honestly think you can improve peoples websites do you? Why don't you review your own paysites and wow us all with your new stats?

Why should I step into a field that even I know I have little chance of making a profit or making any difference, except being honest and telling surfers to save their money and go to the Tube sites and sort out the scenes they want for today. And steer clear of the dating sites, telling them how they work to squeeze money for the unsuspecting?

Why not hire myself out to site owners, who are still shooting, to look into their sites and discuss with them on a one to one basis how to improve, widen the appeal and set their product apart for the 10,000s of other sites?

I put this to Fabian, his response was so many here think I'm clueless. This "so many" is people whose job is to give away porn and attacking me because I attack their job. People who have never shot a scene in their life, never been in a studio, never dealt with model A and model B. So don't know the skills required to make them both bring out the best in them. People who think creating "good" porn can be done for peanuts by anyone with a good HD camera. :Oh crap

If my ideas can't improve sales, sack me. If they do keep me on. I could teach Dean how to improve his porn. So I think I can teach a lot of others. Yes I've seen his porn and see where it can be improved. His framing and posing skills are lacking. His structure of a video is lacking. His photography skills are good and I can't improve them. I don't know much about photography. I know how to make a model work better and how to structure a set and a video.

Few offline porn shooters had a lot of arrogance, they were always sitting down and discussing how to get the best out of a scene.

So just finished another review, takes me a few days to get into a site and get the feel of what the owner is trying to achieve. This one has done it very well.

http://trikepatrol.com/1/

A few technical points I'll help you with, nothing major as it's real amateur niche. Girls having fun as they're having sex.

What I do have to discuss with you is better ways to do the sample clips on the tours.

Ways to expand on a scene. Positions shooting etc.

And how to maximise on the best girls.

In private according to your needs and situation.

Overall I loved the site and think it would be best if the owner gives me a 6 month pass, as I will need to check in at least once a day to keep the feel of the site. :1orglaugh

Thanks Paul.. we'll chat with you more on ICQ when I have some free time.. super busy atm but we're definitely interested in the ideas you have :)

If anyone else would like me to look at their site or sites and give an honest review of it, from the content/members perspective, feel free to hit me up.

So far I have done a few and still chatting with some owners.

I did Brazzers, which even though some scenes were absolutely awful, the majority were fine. I expected better than fine from the biggest online company in their flag ship site. Not a site I would ever join or stay a member of for long. The content and structure is too bland, just a big site of LA Valley porn. Without the same feel to it. And so much of it is scenes I can watch for free anywhere.

Mofos I did not like. Solo girl needs more. IMO it was like so many solo girl sites. Poor shooters shooting too much for too little. Again another pile of scenes available everywhere or similar for free.

Twistys I like. I found some of the sets were not up to the standard they should be. Yes there were a few individual shots that were good. Shooting a set requires more than a few good images. The whole 100 need to be there or there abouts. Videos, some were shot well, but bland. Some shooters were shooting girls standing up with a wide angle camera. Technically good, but not good porn. Some videos were good, I liked some of Deans, he seems a better video shooter than stills IMO.

All 3 sites can be improved, not an opinion. It's a fact.

Have done others and one I told them to give up, it was bad. The rest made some constructive suggestions. The owners took in. Unlike Manwin who seem to know better. :Oh crap

Yes they do well, is that traffic flow or by listening to other shooters opinions?

Nothing is so good it can't be better.

This is some out of the box trolling if you don't mind me saying ...

still waiting :winkwink:

you read about as well as you write. i said 'at least once a day'. that means minimum. i didn't write a book (btw where is your e-book?), i wrote a quick 2-page pdf and follow-up article to help point my customers in the right direction. many of them never even got that far before. if they want to learn marketing, it is not my job to teach them, but my docs and articles make the difference between zero sales in 6 months (like a Markham site) to 3-10 a week. its just a starting point and that is made clear in the docs.

claiming that i wrote everything i know about marketing in a 2-page pdf just shows what a dickhead troll you are..

lol. Markham teaches marketing. as Damian said, those that can't do, teach :1orglaugh

where's your track record for marketing solo model sites in today's market? or any market in the last 34 years? i market solo models in TODAY'S market - meaning i have spent hours doing it this week.

you do not know anything about marketing online porn, Paul, and no one here believes otherwise. who are you trying to fool? yourself?

you spend all day on this message board. do you even open any other site for marketing or otherwise? you have no current real-world experience and everybody knows this - except you.

maybe the problem is you dont know what the word 'marketing' means? you seem to keep confusing it with shooting content. at least i stick to subjects i know.

unlike Fabian, i dont work with condescending assholes. there's plenty of decent people to work with that have actual marketing experience. i'll just let you troll gfy all day :thumbsup

the only intelligent thing you've ever said :thumbsup

Brilliant trolling. The largest and most successful online adult business doesn't want to heed the made up advice from one of the noisiest online failures?

Can't imagine what Fabien is thinking!

LOLLINGTON LOL.

so what you told them to go there 89 times a day. It's so basic. Telling them what to do when they get there might help.

Taking them aside and chatting with them on how to shape themselves into a product is what they need.

And pray they don't drown.

I told you what to do so take the advice or don't absolutely no skin off my nose.

IMO stick to what you know, programming and leave selling and marketing to guys who have been doing it decades. Yes I had to sell and market myself. As we all know shooting good content isn't going to make a sale.

Join my ignore list, you offer nothing but nothing.

I thought you put me onignore, seems you need a lesson how to do that.

> User CP > Edit Ignore List > copy and paste "Paul Markham" into the box > hit Enter.

In conversation with 2 people, at the moment for free, and they will come back and tell you if it was any help.

I've decades constructing scenes, shooting content, editing, working with other shooters, consuming porn, selling porn and yes marketing porn. you need to know how to present yourself to customers. My downfall was not kissing the asses of affiliates and critisising the whole affiliate model.

Now got trolls goading me.

Damian confined himself to my ignore list with a comment about asking me to prove we make sales. Yes Damian 3 years after 2 disasters that would of kicked you out of the business, we can still afford to keep 3 servers going. Well it's only 2 now, we downsized last month. Still over 3 years.

I have enough of his stupidity goading me. Like the bottled water trolls.

I was debating with these guys about water for most things isn't free, it's a multi billion dollar industry. We have a water meter.

But really who gives a flying fuck if they can sell bottled water. We sell porn, or in so many cases don't sell porn.

That's why this is now the theme song for porn.



Brilliant marketing guys.

No worries, got some ideas that might work for you with some adapting.

They will need you and I to chat them through to get them right for you.

Still a great site and thanks for the opportunity to see it.

Huh? I offered to help you out by buying astral-blue.com and said I would pay you 6 month's revenue. That's not quite the same thing, is it now?

You and your pesky lies!

:)

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I found a pic for dvtimes too :pimp

http://pictures.funnyforum.org/wp-co...FORUM-PICS.jpg

Says the troll :1orglaugh

And wtf is this stupid lollington business! Is that college boy chat :321GFY Fucking idiot :2 cents:

You certainly told me Gary!

lol Damian it doesnt matter. i made a half-ass effort to reply to the attack against my business, but no one is reading this. and the few that do read this dont give Markham any credibility. lets stick to business and making money. unlike Paul, you and i are still in this industry. i gotta get back to work. chat later :pimp

Life is getting better.

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Maybe Gary has something as he seems less boring than the others.

Leave him to hurt his own business. He has only himself to sell and seems shit at it. Not great for a marketing man.

Marketing 101 for marketing people

Don't appear like a

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I found one for me.

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