this is a forum , you ask questions , i respond..

I am not anti-israel , i am anti-stupidity, it just so happens israel is discussed often and i point out stupidity.

For the record i have been a payoneer user for years , and have always been happy with my service.. here is my issue..


The thread topic contains the following quote from Yuval

"Payoneer has never been investigated, subpoenaed, fined in any way, or received any type of warning from any US or international law agency, and works closely with international authorities to fight fraud and illegal activities"

it is quite clear the dubai police investigating payoneers role warned them their cards would be blacklisted in UAE if they did not cooperate with the investigation. This is quite contrary to what Yuval said at the start of this thread.

i never suggested boycotting anyone ? like i said , i think it was quite clever , but i did have some issues ( see above ) with Yuval's statement.

Question Anything Isreali = Anti-Semite

Love that logic. :1orglaugh

why did they stay at the hotels they did? why did they use a certain cell phone provider? eat at certain eateries? rent certain cars? airlines? on and on?

and since there is compulsory military service of course everyone is connected to the israel military is some way. this is too obvious it should not have to be stated.

This thread is seriously taking off now! :1orglaugh

Tell your hubby to drop in :winkwink:

LOL, like beating a dead horse. Nah :1orglaugh

He is way too busy these days for much chicanery.

Great to know!

Smokey is trying to get his house strafed by Apache's and then bulldozed.

i have no idea , i didn't ask those questions , neither did the UAE authorities investigating the murder, but they did warn payoneer specifically , they didn't warn hotels or airlines or cell phone providers..
i'm not..
and yet you did :winkwink:

Mexicans are required to drive on the right hand side of the road fyi .. :thumbsup

50 Assassinations made possible by Payoneer.

:1orglaugh it is better than getting your house bulldozed and then strafed by apache's , because then you have nothing to hide behind..:thumbsup:winkwink:

please tell me about the cell phone provider that needs scans of passports to be able to use them...what about that hotel that makes you jump through hoops to identify yourself? restaurants?

payoneer has all sorts of protections in place that all of these guys got through

and then you have the ex-ceo who was part of the same terrorist cell that used the cards

payoneer = CLOSELY linked with MURDER and TERRORISM

i dont know what a company could do that is worse than being linked with TERRORISM, the same TERRORISM that led to the 9/11 bombings.

Support Payoneer?? Then you support 9/11 and are laughing at all those dead Americans.

and to think the group of terrorists that all got caught using payoneer cards were just the ones that were caught

makes me think how many children, families, fathers and mothers were killed by payoneer card carrying terrorists? terrorism is bad and it is funny to see the CEO of a company coming out and asking people to be nice to them and not worry about their terrorist connections and asking people to turn a blind eye to terrorism that is directly linked to his/her company

how disgusting, payoneer should be ashamed of themselves, talia you should quit, nobody wants their children to grow up and learn that at one time mommy helped terrorists

payoneer = terrorist connections
payoneer ex-ceo = (ex?) terrorist

and LOL at the CEO lying in this very thread about not being investigated..good job pointing that out Smokey

but then again would you expect the truth from a company linked to terrorism? of course not.

the CEO comes out and says these things for two reasons:

1) They feel that the adult community is too stupid to catch him/her in his/her lie.
2) They feel that their terrorist connections are being revealed and need to start hiding their tracks as much as possible.

If your business works with terrorists don't cry when people start deserting your business because they don't support terrorism. Instead of coming to this board and crying about it then lying like a little bitch, maybe the Payoneer CEO will say no next time terrorists ask to use their cards so that they can commit terrorism.

they used fake id throughout the operation retard. educate yourself before you drool.

We use Payoneer, no problems at all:2 cents:

not only fake ids but stolen ids, real people had their identities stolen which is another reason i would be hesitant to send payoneer my passport scans and ids, you never know if theyll be used for terrorism especially with their close links to terrorists, the ceo who was a terrorist at one time (the one that just lied to us all)

maybe just that alone doesnt count for much but everything together sure does

if it was just one person that would be one thing but for a whole group of terrorists? would love to find out what company funded their cards since we know that p2p didn't exist on payoneer until recently.

and to learn that their ex-ceo and even current ceo have ties to terrorist groups and were themselves terrorists? too much to be a coincidence

well don`t use them.

here you go http://www.sib.ae/en/retail-banking/...aid-cards.html

just move on.

So a few things:

About Latina - you also have an account manager if you are a partner and should be answered promptly as well.

Regarding the rest, nothing I have posted here is a lie. The fact is there have been zero investigations about anything because nothing happened, and honestly, blaming Payoneer for 9/11 is REALLY pushing it, don't you think? We have no connections to Al Qaeda, do we?

You are entitled to your opinion, however if any wrong-doing had occurred on our end, international organizations would be after us.

I am very proud to work at Payoneer and love my job. We have been able to give more than 1.2 million people worldwide a way to get paid that otherwise would have been unavailable to them. Yuval at no point asked anyone to play nice or be nice. I'm big girl and can take care of myself. I am not here to dodge accusation or steal anyone's business. I am here to make my assistance available to any of our users and potential users that need it, and plenty of GFYers have sought and received my help.

We do not require any passports - we require any photo ID that you choose. We aren't picky, but PCI regulations force us to do so, just like every other company that deals with payments.

The point is, if anything illegal had happened at our company, you would read about it in all media - CNN, BBC, etc. without distinction. This is not the case. Nothing we have stated here is a lie - I challenge you to research and find one official document FROM ANY COUNTRY stating that we have done anything illegal and showing any investigation and conclusion of criminal activity (or really any official investigation).

All Israelis are required to do military service, so any company that has Israeli offices, whether founded and based in Israel or that merely has R&D offices in Israel - is bound to have a large majority of former military employees. In much the same way, almost every country in the world 30 years ago would have had former military personnel that served in the World Wars and Vietnam, and local wars too. That's a pretty big generalization to make.

You are entitled to your opinion, and we have zero intention of making anyone use our product, but spreading malicious lies about a company only discredits you as a person, not me. Anyone with Googling abilities will see that 100% of what is written is 100% speculation.

Oh, and by the way, press play on that video you posted, there is no relation between the title and the context. It's like saying "Hot girl on girl action" and the video showing a cat flushing the toilet.

Oh, I'm sorry, someone also asked about the fees. Since we negotiate fee structures with each partner, the fees can be different from partner to partner. Go the partner you work with and click on Payoneer as a payment option. Before you sign up, there is a link for fees that you can check.

Nobody blamed Payoneer for 9/11, only blamed Payoneer for supporting terrorists. There's no distinction between Israeli terrorists and Saudi terrorists, they are both terrorists, the scum of the world. We can agree to that, right?

About mandatory military service: so you believe that only Hitler was responsible for the Holocaust then, right? Because Germans had to go to war so there could have only been the guy in charge to blame, right? Or did every single Nazi that followed Hitler's orders have a part to play, collectively causing the Holocaust?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refusal...raeli_military

You say that you would read about it in the media but tell me how many people heard about this:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/baby...uh-canada.html

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1764494/

Canada catches one of the guys but their close ties with Israel means they deny everything after telling Dubai they have the guy, and then make sure that the media gets as little as possible.

Don't pretend like Israel doesn't have an influence on "CNN, BBC, etc." I get better news from Haaretz than I do those two.

Anyway I don't mean to make a huge issue out of it and I don't mean any offense to you Talia, I just feel if a company is working with terrorists and is linked to terrorism it should be brought out and either proven wrong or right. You wouldn't want to do business with a company that supports murder and terrorism yourself, would you? Of course not.

you posted a quote from the payoneer ceo saying "Payoneer has never been investigated, subpoenaed, fined in any way, or received any type of warning from any US or international law agency,"

it is clear they were warned by the UAE police investigating the murder to turn over records or payoneer would risk being flagged to interpol and payoneer cards would be blacklisted in UAE.

It is clear something did happen , contrary to what you say and it is also clear payoneer was warned to turn over records or risk being blackballed by the UAE contrary to what you posted by your CEO

This was widely reported on many news sites

OK, let's say that Payoneer was warned and made to turn over documents - if there was any wrong doing on our part, again, this would be investigated and charges would be brought by international organizations.

About the links: There are people all over the world that refuse military service, all get similar outcomes, and comparing a payment organization to Nazi Europe is, again, pushing it. I am not making any type of excuse for anyone of anything, but we are a payout company that allows private loads in addition to partner payments, just like PayPal and every competitor out there. Do you think they do background checks on each user? If all of us had to request every document from each person that signed up, no one would be in business and no one would be getting paid. By the way, neither do local banks when you sign up for bank accounts in any country. I'm sorry, but as an outsider looking in, I think most of this sounds like conspiracy theories, especially with regards to world media.

It is your right to believe what you want to believe, but I am done commenting on this particular aspect. Nothing any of us will say will convince you of anything, short of official documents from every international organization in the world claiming there was no wrong doing.

From here on out, I am only commenting on anything related to the Payoneer service.

and if you had said you did nothing criminal then i might agree with you , but thats not what you posted , you posted the ceo saying , you ( payoneer ) were never warned or investigated, when it is quite clear payoneer was part of the investigation , and payoneer was warned to cooperate..

We weren't warned. We fully cooperate with any official agency that requests information from us regarding any potential criminal investigation and fraud investigation. Again, just because it's written in a article, doesn't mean it happened. I doubt the people who wrote the article were present at the conversation.

An investigation went on, but it wasn't about Payoneer, we were just cooperating fully with authorities requesting information.

The Central Bank, said Lt Gen Dahi, has enquired with the "issuers of the cards" about the source of the funds but has not had any response from them so far.
Notices
"If we do not get a convincing response from them, I will request a red notice and a black notice for the institutions, as well as a UAE ban on the use of cards issued by them," he said.

sounds like a warning to me..:2 cents:

Don't cry when you get called out on a subject when you start a thread about said subject especially when your initial posts contains blatant lies.

I didn't compare Nazi Europe to Payoneer, I compared the IDF to the Nazi army.

If just one of the terrorists used Payoneer cards it would be one thing. But for 14/15 terrorists to have cards issued by the same company is 'pushing it'. And then add to that that the CEO of the company is linked to that same terrorist cell...and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that there is probably a connection between the two.

As an outsider looking in, I think most of this sounds like Payoneer is hand in hand with terrorists and helping them commit terrorism across the globe. And I will believe otherwise when I have reason to believe otherwise, not because a Payoneer employee and her boss, an ex-terrorist and current supporter of terrorism tell me otherwise.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

trust and transparency go hand in hand. As far as payoneer , like i said , i have nothing but good things to say about their service, happy member for many years, but if you say you breed unicorns , i am going to ask questions.

I have been nothing but truthful ever since I arrived at these boards 7 months ago. if you don't like an answer of mine or don't trust it, that is 100% your prerogative, but it doesn't make anything I say a lie.

I use my real name on these forums (and a real photo of me - you can easily Google both), and if I only do so because I believe 100% in the company and what it does and its integrity. No job is worth putting your reputation on line for, and I am not doing that. The fact that someone says what I'm saying is a lie, doesn't make it a lie.

I believe in 100% transparency, and if I have done anything on these boards since I arrived here, it's prove that. I have been working in this field in hi tech for 7 years, and I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. If I don't have an answer, I find one and always answer. You will not find one post here unanswered by me, even if someone doubts what I say. I believe it's better to be absent and not say a word than lie, and a philosophy I have followed from day one in this field. (Field = community management)

That said, I am happy you've been pleased with the service.

This "Arab" guy you speak of. Why don't you call him by his name? His name was Mahmoud Abdel Rauf al-Mabhouh, a Sr. Hamas Military Commander.

Who is Hamas, oh just a quaint little organization that's an offshoot of the Brotherhood of Islam who rules the Gaza Strip with an iron thumb. Hamas recruits young, non-radicalized Muslims to go commit murder via Suicide Bombings using vests filled with explosives. Hammas is the group that has been murdering innocent Israeli women and children using rockets that were smuggled into Gaza by none other than Mahmoud Abdel Rauf al-Mabhouh.

So this "Arab" guy was a:

1. Terrorist
2. Murderer
3. Weapons Smuggler
4. Enemy of Freedom

This guy wanted to see every non-Muslim Israeli, American, European dead at all costs.

In other words, the world is a better place without him. You should be thanking whomever did this and not besmirching Payoneer or their exec team about suggested or inferred or unproven connects to the murder of Mahmoud Abdel Rauf al-Mabhouh.

This statement "There was some speculation that these hitmen used stolen payoneer identities to carry out the murder " is the kind of statement that get's someone in the poor house for having to pay out a settlement for libeling and slandering someone. I would caution you against throwing your own financial freedom into the wind so carelessly.

These kinds of reckless, unfounded, unproven, caustic, agenda driven statements serve one purpose and that is to denigrate and harm the recipient in a manner that can only be resolved legally and typically with a substantial financial payment and/or other legal measures.

And BTW, are you pro Terrorism?

and his mission as a Commander of Hamas was to murder as many non-Muslims as possible

Only one thing is very clear here, you are a radicalized Muslim who supports Jihad on your fellow earthly beings. You are out to harm Payoneer's good name because you support the murder and torture and terroristic acts being carried out against non-Muslims around the world.

Ladies and Gentlemen: Please join me in welcoming our first admitted Terrorist to GFY.

Congrats! You are in a class unto itself.

Boardmembers,

It's clear this user https://gfy.com/member.php?u=98285 has decided that as a supporter of Terrorism he's going to attack Payoneer and their Management unduly, without proof, without any form of facts other than coincidences that lead back to the death of a Weapons Dealing, Terrorist and Murderer.

So I ask you all, in an effort to close ranks and move on as an industry, WHO IS THIS GUY "moeloubani"

And furthermore, who here on this board does business with a guy that condones Terrorism, Jihad and the murder of non-Muslims the worldwide.

Think about it. By supporting this guy and providing him cover and by enabling his radicalized, jihadist views to permeate our business interests, we are in turn giving him a platform to murder us all.

If you know who this guy "moeloubani" is please direct message me. It's important that this entire board and industry be aware of what his business dealings are, who he does business with and furthermore, it's important that we all understand he wants the majority of us dead.

moeloubani:

1. Supporter of Radicalized Islamic Jihad
2. Supporter of a Murdering, Weapons Dealing Terrorists
3. Muslim Arab who thinks it's ok to libel and slander people without retribution in a public industry forum.
4. Potentially a terrorist himself. Without knowing where his money is going I can't say definitely but if he's a Muslim, Pornography is out of the question. Therefore there's a good chance he's using the money he makes in his Pornography business to fund terrorism at home and abroad.

If you know who this guy is, please make it known. He's a threat to us all and there's really no room for this kind of unprofessional, damaging and potentially deadly behavior.

I'm not a Muslim first of all and yes I do support Hamas, the democratically elected political party in Palestine.

Second of all no need to do any searching - my name is Moe Loubani. The username is moeloubani because I can't use spaces.

Majority of us dead? Do you have any proof for that? Or are you just starting to make things up because that's all you can do when faced with a logical argument that you can't beat?

On the other hand Israel, a terrorist state, has threatened the majority of our lives.

Samson Option:

Seems to me like YOU pimpsalot are the one supporting terrorism. Seems to me like YOU are the one that wants most of us dead. Seems me that YOU are the one that is supporting Israel's constant terrorist attacks against children and babies. You're probably wearing one of these Israeli shirts right now that makes fun of killing a pregnant woman and her unborn fetus:

http://imeu.net/engine2/uploads/2/is...rmy-tshirt.jpg

I don't support the murder of anyone, and that's why I call Payoneer out on their obvious involvement in an illegal international assassination of a member of a democratically elected political party. You on the other hand seem to support murder and terrorism, especially when it happens to Muslims.

Next time pimpsalot you can actually look intelligent if you try to debate the actual subject at hand, not personally attack those debating. That means you've lost the debate and turned to the 'be a little kid' strategy that so many of those supporting Israeli terrorism turn to.

So far here is what I turned up:

http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view...=ppro_viewmore

His GFY Profile says he's in Kitchener, Ontario:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Ontari...=0 CDgQ8gEwAQ

Apparently he's also a developer or does graphic design:

http://www.freelancer.com/job-search...-incorporated/

Ok here is his Certificate of Constitution with the Canadian Government:

753960-6 LOUBANI ENTERPRISES INCORPORATED ON 2010-04-30

He went to school here:

Galt Collegiate Institute and Vocational School

University of Guelph

AHH Finally a photo of this Admitted Supporter Of Terrorism:

http://64.225.152.162/freelancers/mo...tabs=0&pitem=0

He says:

About Me
I'm a freelance search enginemarketingwritten content expert working out of Guelph, Ontario, Canada. My specialties include AB testing, updating websites for an optimum user and conversion experience and creating visually clean and useable websites.

Areas covered: Guelph, Ontario

He forgot to ad: "I Support Radical Islamic Jihadism, I love Hamas and I want to see every Christian and Jew on the planet Dead"

Ok here's his actual Place Of Work:

https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/Corp...corpId=7539606


Corporation Number
7539606Business Number (BN)
813992468RC0001
Governing Legislation
Canada Business Corporations Act - 2010-04-30
Corporate Name
LOUBANI ENTERPRISES INCORPORATED

Status: Active

Registered Office Address
84, McTague Drive
Cambridge ON N1T 1L7
Canada

And finally, it looks like he's going to use Facebook to further his Jihadism:

http://pl-pl.facebook.com/pages/Loub...12299122172593


OK GANG: There you have it. All the info you need to know about this terrorist supporting defamer and Islamic Pornographer Moe Loubani. Use it as you see fit.

You forgot to mention:

"illegal international assassination of a member of a democratically elected political party who illegally used illegally smuggled illegal weapons to illegally murder non-combatant citizens of a neighboring parliamentary republic."

I know it's a minor omission but an omission nonetheless.

by that reasoning the idf recruits young non-radicalized jews to go commit murder via , rockets, helicopters and pretty much anything they can get their hands on.
and the idf is a group that has been murdering innocent palestinian women and children using rockets ( the only difference is the idf has done a shitload more murder of innocents )


and you base this on what ?
the world would likely be a better place without alot of people, i don't suggest we go around murdering them otherwise you also fit in that category:2 cents:.

the terrorism committed by the idf or by hamas ? i am against all terrorism.
sorry i am not familiar with the hamas mission statement, wasn't even aware they had one.

Omg did you just *GASP* Google me? LOL

you mean

"illegal international assassination of a member of a democratically elected political party who illegally used illegally smuggled illegal weapons to illegally murder non-combatant citizens of a neighboring illegally nuclear armed terrorist state responsible for the murder and oppression of millions of innocent children women and men"

hey ya'll

http://files3.peopleperhour.com/uplo...9184_190x0.jpg

Board Members:

I want to furthermore emphasize that this terrorist supporting radicalized islamic jihadist is a very violent person who has publicly lodged a variety of anti-semitic and homophobic rants online. Here is an example of what really makes "moeloubani" tick (sorry bad pun):

From [email protected]

"Idiot Jewish man, I wish you would come to Canada, 39 Willow Road, Apt. # 610 Guelph, Ontario N1H 1V8 (519) 837-5768 and say just one word in front of me. One big difference between us is that you can't fight a hand to hand battle and instead need your friends to fight for you. Pathetic jew. Israel never existed and never has existed you pathetic faggot running from Hitler. Awwww do you need someone to pick on? Does your daddy keep fucking you in the ass you pathetic slime? HA Come say one thing in front of me. Tell me where you are, and I'll come have a debate with you over whether or not there are any Palestinians alive while you feel the fist of one shoved so far up your ass [see photo for demonstration] its coming out of your eye."

Mohammad "Moe" Loubani

[Note: Mo has proven that Islam is a "Religion of Peace"]

IS THIS REALLY A GUY WE WANT WITHIN OUR INDUSTRY? IS THIS REALLY THE TYPE OF "AFFILIATE" that anyone on this board wants to do busines with?