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Paul Markham 10-11-2011 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18483047)
to be fair fris, you can't convert something that only happened in Paul's head.

I've converted enough over the years to live here.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/home6.jpg

You made enough to live in a rented one bed flat here.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/damianstreet.jpg

I've converted enough to have a living room that looks like this.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/jigsaw2.jpg

Your living room.

http://vimeo.com/8079940

We converted enough to run a studio like this.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_01.jpghttp://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_02.jpghttp://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_03.jpg
http://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_04.jpghttp://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_05.jpghttp://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_06.jpghttp://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_07.jpghttp://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_08.jpghttp://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_09.jpg
http://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_10.jpghttp://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_11.jpghttp://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_12.jpg
http://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_13.jpghttp://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_14.jpghttp://paulmarkham.com/temp/studio_15.jpg

You work in your living room.

We employed people.

You're Ma & Pa

You're so stupid, you troll your betters. I troll those lesser.

DamianJ 10-11-2011 01:51 AM

So you *were* lying when you said you had tried tubes then. That's cool. Post another picture of the street I used to live in if it helps you try and divert attention away from the fact that you are a nasty little liar. If it makes you feel better in some way. Knock yourself out.

Why not post a really long string of some magazine stuff you shot 30 years ago too, that's always good at misdirection.

It is really funny that you are too embarrassed to post a pic of the front or side or back of your little concrete grey eastern european block and the fact you think *this* is "nice".

https://img.skitch.com/20110701-qeqc...teqsd985rg.jpg

LOL. Look at that cheap, fairground prize shit you have all over the place as objet d'art. I guess all the millions in the world couldn't buy you taste. Just a wife.

Paul Markham 10-11-2011 02:00 AM

The great days are over. We fund our own destruction. I can't say funded, because we still are doing it.

The cost of delivering the product to the customer in no way reflect the price we charge.

iTunes, Pornhub, all the sites giving away free content pay what for traffic?

Paysites pay how much?

Free water analogy used by fools.

When we go to the supermarket to get our paid for bottled water, we do not have to struggle through 100s of people giving us free bottled water. When we pay for the bottled water we don't pay 50% of that price to support the people outside the supermarket giving away free bottled water.

The customer pays for people like Damian, Jel, porno jew and so many others. And the customer has had enough of it. As I type this the banner at the top of the page is from Pimproll selling their traffic. Well the customer is saying no to paying for them. Slowly but surely.

And online adult has no idea how to get out of the mess but poke fun at someone who tells you, you're fucked.

Now you can all tell me I'm broke. :1orglaugh

DamianJ 10-11-2011 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18483084)
iTunes giving away free content pay what for traffic?

Lol. Do you know what iTunes *is* Paul?

Can you explain what it is in one sentence. I bet you 10 bucks you can't.

It's so sweet to watch you try and keep up and yet totally not understand a fucking thing.

If you were a horse, you'd have been shot by now.

Jel 10-11-2011 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18483084)
The great days are over. We fund our own destruction. I can't say funded, because we still are doing it.

The cost of delivering the product to the customer in no way reflect the price we charge.

iTunes, Pornhub, all the sites giving away free content pay what for traffic?

Paysites pay how much?

Free water analogy used by fools.

When we go to the supermarket to get our paid for bottled water, we do not have to struggle through 100s of people giving us free bottled water. When we pay for the bottled water we don't pay 50% of that price to support the people outside the supermarket giving away free bottled water.

The customer pays for people like Damian, Jel, porno jew and so many others. And the customer has had enough of it. As I type this the banner at the top of the page is from Pimproll selling their traffic. Well the customer is saying no to paying for them. Slowly but surely.

And online adult has no idea how to get out of the mess but poke fun at someone who tells you, you're fucked.

Now you can all tell me I'm broke. :1orglaugh

You're broke :thumbsup

Paul Markham 10-11-2011 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18483095)
Lol. Do you know what iTunes *is* Paul?

Can you explain what it is in one sentence. I bet you 10 bucks you can't.

It's so sweet to watch you try and keep up and yet totally not understand a fucking thing.

If you were a horse, you'd have been shot by now.

If you were a horse, you would be brighter than you are now.

Show me all the adverts iTunes spend millions on.

Then show me the adverts that are giving away free music. Too stupid to even see the connection.

Spending millions on ads like this is good.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/banner1.jpg

spending millions on adverts like this is bad

www.pornhub.com

Now do you get the picture?

EukerVoorn 10-11-2011 04:08 AM

This talk is getting too positive for me, there's too much love vibes and I can't cope with that so I'm out of this thread and all similar threads.

Yesterday's sales were great here by the way.

fris 10-11-2011 04:19 AM

lol @ the creepy pic of paul shit you would see on americas most wanted

-=HUNGRYMAN=- 10-11-2011 04:31 AM

PAUL MARKHAM

Moses' second cousin

Takes pictures of naked girls

Hot wife leaves him once she gets papers

GOOD TIMES!:thumbsup

Paul Markham 10-11-2011 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 18483217)
lol @ the creepy pic of paul shit you would see on americas most wanted

Somebody wants me?

No way.

The saddest part of this industry is the blinkered thinking. Damian and few trolls go on and on about us being broke. That the site didn't do well and a lot more bullshit to prop up their mistakes.

Squealer made an entire list of threads about it.

His story is he was looking for a shooter to shoot cheap content of girls he would fly from Russia to Czech to get them shot. Because shooting solo girl stuff in Russia is illegal. His girls were working a live web cam. :upsidedow

And we were broke.

Yet we had a 3,000 sq ft studio, studio staff and office staff that to this day he's clueless what they were doing. A man with a brain would of walked into that operation and known straight away. There's no way this guy is going to let one of his shooter, use one of his cameras, lights and parts of the studio to shoot our cheap sets.

And when he posts it here, no one has the brains to think it through. We would be losing money giving 1/3 of our studio shooting staff, camera, equipment, time and studio to shoot exclusive sets for him at $300 a pop. Assuming when he said inexpensive he meant $300 and not lower.

Yes when this part of porn is heavily dominated by people working from home with 0 to little costs, they assume everyone else can. Our operation was like so many other offline shooters and cold never be supported by shooting cheap custom work. We had to shoot for a better paying market. To pay the bills.

If Eva and I had been working from home, shooting on the cheap and unable to shoot for the better paying end. Then we could or would shoot custom sets for $300 to what ever. We were better than that, so didn't and to be honest couldn't.

Jel 10-11-2011 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18483247)
Somebody wants me?

No way.

The saddest part of this industry is the blinkered thinking. Damian and few trolls go on and on about us being broke. That the site didn't do well and a lot more bullshit to prop up their mistakes.

Squealer made an entire list of threads about it.

His story is he was looking for a shooter to shoot cheap content of girls he would fly from Russia to Czech to get them shot. Because shooting solo girl stuff in Russia is illegal. His girls were working a live web cam. :upsidedow

And we were broke.

Yet we had a 3,000 sq ft studio, studio staff and office staff that to this day he's clueless what they were doing. A man with a brain would of walked into that operation and known straight away. There's no way this guy is going to let one of his shooter, use one of his cameras, lights and parts of the studio to shoot our cheap sets.

And when he posts it here, no one has the brains to think it through. We would be losing money giving 1/3 of our studio shooting staff, camera, equipment, time and studio to shoot exclusive sets for him at $300 a pop. Assuming when he said inexpensive he meant $300 and not lower.

Yes when this part of porn is heavily dominated by people working from home with 0 to little costs, they assume everyone else can. Our operation was like so many other offline shooters and cold never be supported by shooting cheap custom work. We had to shoot for a better paying market. To pay the bills.

If Eva and I had been working from home, shooting on the cheap and unable to shoot for the better paying end. Then we could or would shoot custom sets for $300 to what ever. We were better than that, so didn't and to be honest couldn't.

When trying to pick out a new sofa, what would you say is the most important quality?

Paul Markham 10-11-2011 05:59 AM









Well not for some, but it's definitely not going on for 40 more years. Offline did it. Online. :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 10-11-2011 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18483266)
When trying to pick out a new sofa, what would you say is the most important quality?

When buying or selling an item, everyone has what's called in selling teaching as a "Hot Button." This is the real reason they want something new. If you can find that button, selling is easy. The art of a salesman isn't to talk, it's to ask the right questions listen to the answers, qualify them and find that "Hot Button." Press it and take the order.

For us when we bought our new sofa, it was to replace one that I had for years. Buying a quality leather one gives the owner years of wear and tear. And I had given that sofa decades of it. It was a classic style, well built, leather covered and everything wiped straight off.

But it was soft and Eva was in a plastic body corset to support her spine and a soft sofa wasn't suitable.

We wanted leather, price wasn't an issue. The issues were delivery, quality and firmness. We needed one very fast. We needed something that would last and it had to be firm to support Eva's back.

So there were the most important issues for us when buying our new sofa.

So what has this got to do with porn? Yes I was getting to that.

Everything. What's a porn consumers "Hot Buttons" when consuming porn?

Hitting the niche right. (And all that involves in getting the porn right.)
Delivery.
Ease of access.
Trust.

And that's about it. If you can get those right you can sell easily. If not then you're left with throwing as many surfers as possible at a site and hoping the site hit's someones hot button.

Major tubes for most people do hit all those buttons.

You can sort through the sites for the right niche, hit right. In most cases. Delivery is great, there when you want it. Ease of access couldn't be easier. Trust, need I say more? The odds on getting scalped on a paysite are far higher than ever on a Tube site.

Think about this with an open mind and come back with a debatable point. Or just throw hate, it makes no difference to me.

I'm retired. :thumbsup

Jel 10-11-2011 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18483408)
When buying or selling an item, everyone has what's called in selling teaching as a "Hot Button." This is the real reason they want something new. If you can find that button, selling is easy. The art of a salesman isn't to talk, it's to ask the right questions listen to the answers, qualify them and find that "Hot Button." Press it and take the order.

For us when we bought our new sofa, it was to replace one that I had for years. Buying a quality leather one gives the owner years of wear and tear. And I had given that sofa decades of it. It was a classic style, well built, leather covered and everything wiped straight off.

But it was soft and Eva was in a plastic body corset to support her spine and a soft sofa wasn't suitable.

We wanted leather, price wasn't an issue. The issues were delivery, quality and firmness. We needed one very fast. We needed something that would last and it had to be firm to support Eva's back.

So there were the most important issues for us when buying our new sofa.

So what has this got to do with porn? Yes I was getting to that.

Everything. What's a porn consumers "Hot Buttons" when consuming porn?

Hitting the niche right. (And all that involves in getting the porn right.)
Delivery.
Ease of access.
Trust.

And that's about it. If you can get those right you can sell easily. If not then you're left with throwing as many surfers as possible at a site and hoping the site hit's someones hot button.

Major tubes for most people do hit all those buttons.

You can sort through the sites for the right niche, hit right. In most cases. Delivery is great, there when you want it. Ease of access couldn't be easier. Trust, need I say more? The odds on getting scalped on a paysite are far higher than ever on a Tube site.

Think about this with an open mind and come back with a debatable point. Or just throw hate, it makes no difference to me.

I'm retired. :thumbsup


Too much text, what was the answer to my question? Also I'm thinking about a new kitchen table. Rectangle, or circle, in your expert opinion?

Grapesoda 10-11-2011 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 18481650)

where di you get that? you make it??

PR_Glen 10-11-2011 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18481194)

I haven't heard this song in years.. I miss the times where there could be girl bands without them having to be models or cover girls.. just talented.

CaptainHowdy 10-11-2011 07:24 AM

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Paul Markham 10-11-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18483422)
Too much text, what was the answer to my question? Also I'm thinking about a new kitchen table. Rectangle, or circle, in your expert opinion?

You should of told me you were retarded.

Whoops, no need I know. It was for others to read, this isn't a private 121 chat room.

That was news to you wasn't it. :1orglaugh

Jel 10-11-2011 03:48 PM

Octagonal?

anexsia 10-11-2011 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 18482418)
google doesnt show conversions.

magic google stats shows magic join link conversions with the new google analytics update

DamianJ 10-12-2011 12:18 AM

[QUOTE=Paul Markham;18483113]
Show me all the adverts iTunes spend millions on. [quote]







Do I need to go on?

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18483113)
Then show me the adverts that are giving away free music.







Are you new to this?

Really unsure what point yuou are making. iTunes sell music and spend 600 million on ads. Spotify last.fm, pandora rdio and more advertise and then give away music.

So, what's your point?

DamianJ 10-12-2011 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18483113)
Show me all the adverts iTunes spend millions on.







Do I need to go on?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18483113)
Then show me the adverts that are giving away free music.







Are you new to this?

Really unsure what point yuou are making. iTunes sell music and spend 600 million on ads. Spotify last.fm, pandora rdio and more advertise and then give away music.

So, what's your point?

porno jew 10-12-2011 12:37 AM

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Paul Markham 10-12-2011 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18485431)
So, what's your point?

They are run by professional marketing people, not clowns working out of their living room. They don't give more clowns free music to spread everywhere. They put up videos that need a little bit of work to take the music from. They sell cheap music that the buyer can take with him and listen to anywhere. We give our product away at the favored point of consumption.

Can you actually show where they state they spend $600 million solely on iTunes advertising? Clips from You tube, don't show a cost of $600 million.

My other point is simple. Traffic isn't King in porn. Getting men to look at porn is very easy. Every single affiliate does it to some extent. The hard part is getting them to buy it. Getting traffic is easy. Getting enough to sell a product that's better for free than when it's paid for is bloody hard. Sign Ups are King, Retention Emperor.

Free hits consumers "Hot Buttons" far better than paid. If you're in marketing you'll know that phrase, maybe by a different name but it's all te same.

A Consumers Hot Button. Is the needs he has that a supplier has to fill in order to sell. In porn they're often as not these.

Hitting the niche right. (And all that involves in getting the porn right.)
Delivery.
Ease of access.
Trust.

And that's about it. If you can get those right you can sell porn easily. If not then you're left with throwing as many surfers as possible at a site and hoping the site hit's someones hot button.

Major tubes for most people do hit all those buttons.

You can sort through the sites for the right niche, hit right. In most cases. Delivery is great, there when you want it. Ease of access couldn't be easier. Trust, need I say more? The odds on getting scalped on a paysite are far higher than ever on a Tube site.

Paysites don't. Once the money is spent the buyer is often stuck into a site that has low level porn. Usually produced to cheap by a producer who can't get better paid work or shot by the site owner themselves to save cost. Don't tell me about the few who get it right. Met-Art prove what happens when the members area is good.

Delivery, some sites are a bit of a jumble, but both free and paid are level here.

Ease of Access, Tube beat paid hands down on this. No registration, no CC, no membership. Watch once an hour or once a month. All the same with free.

Trust. If you are not paying the odds on getting scammed are less. Less not removed, yes some Tubes can install viruses onto a computer. The big ones treat customers well.

These reasons are why consumers prefer free. iTunes and their ads, don't have ads that are superior to their product, from the consumers POV. In porn that's abundantly clear with 1,000s consuming free for 1-2 buying. Don't nit pick figures, you know it's the right principal.

Think about this with an open mind and come back with a debatable point. Or just throw hate, it makes no difference to me. It does to you and your future employment.

I'm retired. :thumbsup

porno jew 10-12-2011 01:03 AM

literally no one cares.

DamianJ 10-12-2011 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18485460)
They are run by professional marketing people

Wow. Great point.

Paul Markham 10-12-2011 01:09 AM

I do not think free will be removed, it's too late. The horse has bolted so no point in closing the stable door.

I just love pointing out to you and trolls like you how wrong you got it.

Don't bother telling me I'm broke. I'm not. We ran a big operation here for content producers. 3,000 sq ft studio. 2 full time studio staff plus Eva and I 2 people looking after content management, from getting sets ready to go out to magazines to correcting and uploading. A video editor. 3 programmers, working on our sites and on other projects.

Remember Squealer? He saw all this and testified to it here on GFY. And then said we were broke and looking to give him 1/3 of our content production operation to shoot cheap sets. You don't run that kind of show shooting cheap sets. No one realised that because most of you work on the cheap, we didn't.

And we got out 3 years ago and still paying the servers because we still take money. Could you last 3 years doing the minimum work? It's still a nice slice of income. Probably better than yours is. Our income today would get us a mortgage. You still live in a rented one bed flat.

Yes and I now the truth, want to lie?

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18485464)
Wow. Great point.

Thank you. It's not just marketing people. In general online porn has used low level people. Shooters, rarely did a site pay enough to get the best, programmers the same, design the same and it goes on. The money offline paid and mainstream online paid was far above what online porn paid.

Debate a point and show people you a have the ability to. You need to, I don't.

Jel 10-12-2011 01:13 AM

You're broke, get over it.

DamianJ 10-12-2011 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18485468)
Debate a point and show people you a have the ability to.

If you come up with a point worth debating, I'd be happy to.

porno jew 10-12-2011 01:51 AM

I am an only child. I used to play monopoly with myself...I would pretend I am rolling the dice for the other people, and sometimes I would actually lose.

nico-t 10-12-2011 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18480709)
Paul, are you suggesting giving away free porn is something you think is a bad idea?

That is very interesting thinking and certainly gives me food for thought.

You should post these innovative thoughts and ideas more often rather than just repeating yourself like a madman.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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nico-t 10-12-2011 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 18481650)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

nico-t 10-12-2011 03:08 AM

in all seriousness, Paul i need your opinion. My friend wants his business to move to an office space with a bit more room because he has 2 more employees since about a year and the office they're at now is a bit too small. Now he already made the deal with the company who rents out office space, then he told me he was not so sure about the toilet capacity and placement. I told him that i know of someone named Paul on a forum who is an expert on this matter.
So he put everything on hold now, and is eager to hear your view on the toilet situation, before he follows through on the office deal. When you say there is something wrong with the toilets, he is even willing to pull the plug out of the whole deal, because I made it clear to him that you are the office toilet authority.
Including himself there will be 7 people working at the office. After the entrance there is a door to the left with 1 normal toilet and 1 urinal. The door to the right is a meeting space with a small kitchen block. Further up the hall are 2 big office spaces both with a capacity of 4 employees and 1 smaller office for my friend.
What is your opinion about the placement, capacity and the kind of toilets used in this particular office?

Jel 10-12-2011 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 18485589)
in all seriousness, Paul i need your opinion. My friend wants his business to move to an office space with a bit more room because he has 2 more employees since about a year and the office they're at now is a bit too small. Now he already made the deal with the company who rents out office space, then he told me he was not so sure about the toilet capacity and placement. I told him that i know of someone named Paul on a forum who is an expert on this matter.
So he put everything on hold now, and is eager to hear your view on the toilet situation, before he follows through on the office deal. When you say there is something wrong with the toilets, he is even willing to pull the plug out of the whole deal, because I made it clear to him that you are the office toilet authority.
Including himself there will be 7 people working at the office. After the entrance there is a door to the left with 1 normal toilet and 1 urinal. The door to the right is a meeting space with a small kitchen block. Further up the hall are 2 big office spaces both with a capacity of 4 employees and 1 smaller office for my friend.
What is your opinion about the placement, capacity and the kind of toilets used in this particular office?

Offices are Queens, toilets are King, and sewage systems are Emporer. The trick is, HOW DO YOU KEEP THEM HAPPY? Any fool can get an Armitage & Shanks installed, it takes a genius to use toilets for girlfriends, and sewage systems as prostitutes. Thing is, which one is a 1st date? 499 splashes on the toilet seat are LOST splashes - forget about the 1 stream into the bowl, because it PROVES MY POINT, if only you would of listened, but marketing 'geniuses' like 'Arry Redknapp will tell you you can lead a horse to bottled water, but can't make it buy it. Off to have chicken soup in the lean-to.

Paul Markham 10-12-2011 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 18485589)
in all seriousness, Paul i need your opinion. My friend wants his business to move to an office space with a bit more room because he has 2 more employees since about a year and the office they're at now is a bit too small. Now he already made the deal with the company who rents out office space, then he told me he was not so sure about the toilet capacity and placement. I told him that i know of someone named Paul on a forum who is an expert on this matter.
So he put everything on hold now, and is eager to hear your view on the toilet situation, before he follows through on the office deal. When you say there is something wrong with the toilets, he is even willing to pull the plug out of the whole deal, because I made it clear to him that you are the office toilet authority.
Including himself there will be 7 people working at the office. After the entrance there is a door to the left with 1 normal toilet and 1 urinal. The door to the right is a meeting space with a small kitchen block. Further up the hall are 2 big office spaces both with a capacity of 4 employees and 1 smaller office for my friend.
What is your opinion about the placement, capacity and the kind of toilets used in this particular office?

He should look at the local laws and requirements for this.

Great to see the level of intelligent replies. :thumbsup

Pete an Xbox is the last thing I want. Got far better things to do with my life than live in the non real world of an Xbox.


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