Close to 3K so far, how much will you lose by the time all of those memberships finished rebilling out? 10K - 15K ?

If the money is going to Shane then obviously it's not Biggy's fault. Shane is keeping the money, if that is in fact the truth.

It's Biggy's attitude here, defending them, acting like an arrogant pick why he is getting shit back from people. And him claiming to be the victim who has been paying out of pocket to keep a site running that makes nothing and he makes nothing from I think is total bullshit. I bet anything Roland is going to lose more money than Biggy is "out of pocket". Not to mention when Biggy was an affiliate and got screwed in the same position he got mad just like affiliates are getting mad here, that he is taking a shit on.

But Roland, Melissa is hot, you should thank her and be happy that you could donate to her and Shane so they can "pay their bills".

What do you sue people for ?

I have said it before. What you construe as me defending them isn't me defending them. I simply said I am at peace with it and happy for my run that I had, and they ran into their issues.

Outsourced workers for making recycled FHGs, recycling tour updates, etc. Marian from Marian Design was doing it for me. Many old schoolers know her. There were other expenses I picked up too, to run the sites, but I am not going to post every detail here.

You're an idiot who cannot be reasoned with. You should hold a little pow-wow with "signupdamnit" and "failed." What you see isn't arrogance, although I know to someone who has no real experience running a successful operation it can be construed that way. What you see is me exposing truthful and accurate knowledge over you against your speculation and MIS-INFORMATION to attempt to prove a further non-valid point, and me communicating it in a way that is meant for the smart people in this industry to see, not the haters who aren't even owed a penny. To a lot of people, I am making a lot of sense, primarily the people who are successful in the business - the people I actually care about. The people who understand the basic tenants and principles of how business functions, nd the unfortunate circumstances around basic closure.

Roald was owed the most next to me, but I am easily owed the most, not including the expenses I incurred. That should hardly be a surprise considering this is a solo girl site and his site is after all FreeOnes.

Right now... copyright infringement.

People who use my images, without my permission.

A lot of affiliates seem to think they can go out, use content that doesn't belong to them, and whip together any page to promote someone else, without bearing the cost of shooting anything themselves. I know everyone who there is to know in this business. Usually when I catch someone, I know them, which makes it that much more air tight.

They are also fairly simple cases to prove. If all the major content producers did this, the game would be a lot more level.

Man, those affiliates are assholes. Who the hell do they think they are taking shit that doesn't belong to them. :1orglaugh

I never said the affiliates don't have a right to be upset. I also said it was wrong, at least 2x.

i did say people who arent owed anything really dont have a right to bitch, like you.

I also said you were an idiot. :2 cents:

i am done.

I think your arrogance is very apparent even to some of the people who appear to defend you here. It's to their benefit to befriend you and to stay your friend but I think deep down many of them know exactly what you really are.

Of course I'll never do business with you so we need not converse further. But generally if you don't want someone to come give you shit it is a good idea to avoid using their name.

Again, makes no sense. You said the site is not making much money. If so why are you paying to have TGP pages made? Recycling tour updates? That cost you money, how do you not have that shit automated? I love the "other" expenses... you reaching real deep on the two that you list, can't think of anything else so you just resort to "other" expenses.

You might be "out" money from not getting paid on your % of profit share or what ever your deal with them was, but you are not out of pocket much if anything like you claim. I don't buy the b.s. First of all there really is no expenses and if there was you wouldn't continue to pay them (thousands of dollars) out of pocket, to keep a site running that you claim doesn't make much and that you were getting no money from. You just trying to play the victim too.

You very much defending them, trying to distance your program away from them, and trying to play a victim too.

Yawn... I don't even know who signupdamit and failed are. Take all the shots at me you want biggy if it makes you feel better about your self. It is easy to see when people have no argument or defense they turn it into personal attacks. I had no idea who you were before this thread... you handled it like shit and came across as another one of the "bros"...

Added to the do not do business with list... But I know right, I don't make any money or sales so what I say wont mean anything to you. I'm just an un succesful person with nothing better to do then to waste my time pissing up at my betters lol :winkwink:

You go bro, you know everyone there is to know.

/thread Biggie is ubber bro.

Just because I didn't make the minimum payment doesn't mean I'm not owed anything, and it certainly doesn't mean I don't have the right to bitch about someone reaching into my wallet and taking a few bills.

I'm not pissed about a few bucks, it's just the point. If I'm an idiot for that, so be it.

Anyway, I think I've said about all I can in this thread, so I'm done too. Good luck with your other programs, may they have a success equal to this one.

Cool how long you been doing that?

Are you making any money from it?
Won any?
Settlements?

Is the domain for sale now?

No the domain is still needed to run the sites for as long as possible. They need to milk those signups and re-bills for as many years as possible.

The sites didn't close. They just closed the affiliate program and cut off all payments owed to affiliates along with all re-bills. They are keeping everything that comes in for themselves and leaving everyone else out in the cold for the Holiday Season.

Class act all the way. :321GFY

Less actual business people in this thread than pages.

why do has beens like yourself never realize when its time to move on and stop pretending to still be in this business?

My imaginary lawyers will be in touch ...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

son, all you do is sell shit.

you're a nobody in this biz and a nobody in whatever mainstream niche you once felt successful in long ago.

let it go. you washed out. its a bitter pill (so I hear) but life goes on. now run along and do whatever menial work currently has you so embittered. Do it well and maybe you'll get a raise.:thumbsup

Question you've been asked for years. :1orglaugh

by trolls.
oddly enough, never anyone in the actual business.
look at you:thumbsup

So you heard? LOL :1orglaugh
Bottom feeder pretending he is still making money in adult biz. Ever since you failed with claxo you were done. Others went on to build powerhouses like pimproll and brazzers while you built this joke 12 clcik cash enough to cover your hosting bill. Enjoy whats left of you. Not much left on your clock. Not an easy pill to swallow but somehow you did it. :1orglaugh

You never had any actual business. You had url of dead program on your business card just so you can run along the side of real players.

Agreed. Same here.

Problem with GFY is, if they don't hear it to tell lies about it, to them it's not happening.

We are doing exactly what you're doing, and it's making a difference.

Keep up the good fight.

Also, FYI, and I am sure you know this. The only people who have time to throw bottles and rocks at the passerbys on GFY are those that don't have shit, won't be shit, and have nothing better to do.

That is a fact.

:1orglaugh
I heard that in '98 too.
when you decide to give up pretending, be sure to say goodbye. You've been a good laugh.:thumbsup

Back then you were busy telling people how you went from running very successful roofing company to selling porn clicks to eastern european jew. :1orglaugh

TG.. why are you wasting your time ... Everyone in the know knows you're legit ...

I'm still trying to figure out how a paysite that has an alexa rank of 67,000 that runs a revshare program is not profitable.

A troll in the know.

That's classic.:1orglaugh

I am honored that you would consider me a "has been". That means I was actually a "some body" at some point. Coming from you that is a compliment. I am surprised you don't just call me a nobody who never made money.

However, what is most funny is that what you posted above describes yourself to a T.

lots of people had a minute or two in the sun when it was easy.
Then they become board whores like yourself and imagine your betters are also doing poorly.
It never dawns on you that for us, its business as usual.:1orglaugh

same reason the lightspeed sites are not with similar traffic levels.

type ins, legacy traffic from thousands of galleries and fhg's still out there, and the fact that surfer's aren't stupid any more. a short trip around any surfer / fan forum will tip you off that the sites are dead and not updating anymore.

unlike 2002 consumers have many avenues to educate themselves before purchase.

And that's why other programs have affiliates and you don't.

ouch, please stop!
you're hurting my business:1orglaugh

the site was profiting, they (shane not biggy) was keeping all the $ for themselves and hoping no one would notice

You got to have it to hurt it. I just looked in announcement board and didn't find single topic about you or your program. There's nothing to hurt LOL. :1orglaugh

15 pages of nothing worth saying.

oh no! you've got it all figured out!

thank god you don't go to shows. I'd really be ruined if you spread your findings in person.:1orglaugh

You typed most of it as usual.

That's really the bottom line in this entire issue.

Quoted for hotness. WAIT, I mean truth, quoted for truth!

Who said I am not going to shows? As matter of fact I am looking forward to attend your seminar on mergers and acquisition as well as round table discussion on how to run successful affiliate program. Will you be setting booth with your program reps in Vegas? :1orglaugh