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signupdamnit 10-15-2011 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18493203)
anything else? let me be your punching bag.

What about the affiliates getting ripped off who are looking to feed their kids or buy presents with that money? Are they your punching bag then too? It's despicable. The going away note was at least respectful but the way it's being done, not so. Maybe you have a good excuse and there is more going on but from what I see so far you people are crooks.

Biggy2 10-15-2011 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18493205)
Sounds like bullshit to me.

Take a look at http://siteanalytics.compete.com/melissamidwest.com/

143,960 uniques to a paysite (just one) and you are telling me they can't afford to live and pay their affiliates?

You say Bankruptcy? What is the case number? If they really are doing that it is all the reason to try to not piss people off because all it takes is for someone to go to the trustee and bring up that this money was potentially obtained fraudulently (by defrauding affiliates) and the bankruptcy will take YEARS to complete.

What I think (based upon the numbers I see) is that someone just decided that they would make more by closing down the affiliate program and keeping rebills than they would make by accepting new joins from affiliates. This is due to the decline in sales. I don't know for sure but that is what I would suspect. Especially if there is no real BK filing.

Q: How much do you think the site is doing monthly, or joins daily?
A: < 5

That should help give you some perspective. You're right, this is a big fucking money grab and the guy has so much money, he struggles to make a NATS payment. MelissaMidwest.com, that site was big 5-7 years ago. They have no $.

Biggy2 10-15-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18493209)
What about the affiliates getting ripped off who are looking to feed their kids or buy presents with that money? Are they your punching bag then too? It's despicable. The going away note was at least respectful but the way it's being done, not so. Maybe you have a good excuse and there is more going on but from what I see so far you people are crooks.

What's your reseller account and how much are you owed? Let me be your punching bag.

signupdamnit 10-15-2011 10:29 AM

144,000 uniques a day / 1,000 = 144 sales a day.

144 sales * $30 = $4,320 a day in new revenue.

Plus all the old rebills (which you won't be paying affiliates for) and this is also just ONE paysite. And cross sales and other upsells?

$10,000 a day in revenue probably isn't unheard of. At an insane 10% profit even that would be $1000 a day. And you are telling us you can't afford to pay affiliates and that there is a bankruptcy involved? Man.......

signupdamnit 10-15-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18493211)
Q: How much do you think the site is doing monthly, or joins daily?
A: < 5

That should help give you some perspective. You're right, this is a big fucking money grab and the guy has so much money, he struggles to make a NATS payment. MelissaMidwest.com, that site was big 5-7 years ago. They have no $.

How the fuck is a site doing 144,000 uniques a day doing under 5 joins a month?

Biggy2 10-15-2011 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18493228)
How the fuck is a site doing 144,000 uniques a day doing under 5 joins a month?

its a fucking solo girl site with recycling content for the last 2-3 years, you tell me. <5 joins per day.

you make good points, but my money says you arent even an affiliate or you are owed < $100.

and the site isnt doing 144k a day, but id imagine theres traffic going to the FHGs which is also, an ancestral concept to the tubes we have today.

marlboroack 10-15-2011 10:35 AM

I'm sure checks will still come in the mail. They are not shit fuck heads like the others who close their doors.

marlboroack 10-15-2011 10:39 AM

oops, double posted

signupdamnit 10-15-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18493229)
its a fucking solo girl site with recycling content for the last 2-3 years, you tell me. <5 joins per day.

you make good points, but my money says you arent even an affiliate or you are owed < $100.

I'm not an affiliate and I stated that previously in the thread. But I am an adult affiliate and I'm sticking up for others who get screwed. I don't want to see this happen to MY sponsors.

If you really are getting under 5 joins a day then I feel for you and I understand. But let's do some math. 144,000 uniques and five joins means a 1:28,800 ratio. That's crazy even for an affiliate let alone a sponsor who gets type ins. And you are talking around 5 million uniques a month for volume.

Biggy2 10-15-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18493222)
144,000 uniques a day / 1,000 = 144 sales a day.

144 sales * $30 = $4,320 a day in new revenue.

Plus all the old rebills (which you won't be paying affiliates for) and this is also just ONE paysite. And cross sales and other upsells?

$10,000 a day in revenue probably isn't unheard of. At an insane 10% profit even that would be $1000 a day. And you are telling us you can't afford to pay affiliates and that there is a bankruptcy involved? Man.......

ahh my breakthrough moment, where its clear you don't know anything about this business.

everyone else, read my replies above, im sure to the overwhelming majority of you, you at least understand the situation. i am available via ICQ.

BlackCrayon 10-15-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18493229)
its a fucking solo girl site with recycling content for the last 2-3 years, you tell me. <5 joins per day.

you make good points, but my money says you arent even an affiliate or you are owed < $100.

and the site isnt doing 144k a day, but id imagine theres traffic going to the FHGs which is also, an ancestral concept to the tubes we have today.

even if it was only 40-50k/day you could put up a blank page that just says join here and you would be able to get 5 sales.

they made some bad investments, sucks for them. however i think its silly to expect anyone to feel sympathy because the guy has child support. so do many, many others including lots of their affiliates. of course saying all this is pointless to you, as you say you are only the messenger but hard times for the guy or not, not paying affiliates is theft.

signupdamnit 10-15-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18493229)
its a fucking solo girl site with recycling content for the last 2-3 years, you tell me. <5 joins per day.

you make good points, but my money says you arent even an affiliate or you are owed < $100.

and the site isnt doing 144k a day, but id imagine theres traffic going to the FHGs which is also, an ancestral concept to the tubes we have today.

Are you claiming <5 joins a day or a month?

theking 10-15-2011 10:41 AM

It really does not make any difference if the story is bullshit or not...a decision has been made...for whatever the reason/reasons...to not pay out any money to affiliates. It certainly is not the first to do this and certainly will not be the last.

If bitching about it on the board makes one feel better...so be it...but I am satisfied that it will not alter the decision that has been made.

signupdamnit 10-15-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18493247)
ahh my breakthrough moment, where its clear you don't know anything about this business.

everyone else, read my replies above, im sure to the overwhelming majority of you, you at least understand the situation. i am available via ICQ.

Sir, you can insult me all you want but I assure you I convert far better than 1:28,800....

FlexxAeon 10-15-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18492800)
Collect and get 20%, over 10k missing so give it a shot I would say. Don't cross any legal borders though ;)

i'll see what i can do. :thumbsup

DVTimes 10-15-2011 10:46 AM

i promoted. not sure if i got sales.

signupdamnit 10-15-2011 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by marlboroack (Post 18493235)
I'm sure checks will still come in the mail. They are not shit fuck heads like the others who close their doors.

From what I gather they are saying you will not get any payments.

Failed 10-15-2011 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18493250)
It really does not make any difference if the story is bullshit or not...a decision has been made...for whatever the reason/reasons...to not pay out any money to affiliates. It certainly is not the first to do this and certainly will not be the last.

If bitching about it on the board makes one feel better...so be it...but I am satisfied that it will not alter the decision that has been made.

Accept theft, keep quiet, that seems like the way of the adult webmaster.

porno jew 10-15-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18493213)
What's your reseller account and how much are you owed? Let me be your punching bag.

the guy isn't even an affiliate of mm. just another white knight trying to save the adult internet.

porno jew 10-15-2011 10:52 AM

just pull your links and stop sending the program any traffic retards. big deal.

Dubya 10-15-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by marlboroack (Post 18493235)
I'm sure checks will still come in the mail. They are not shit fuck heads like the others who close their doors.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you're the same guy that sells 10 designs for $15? you clearly don't have a brain.

porno jew 10-15-2011 10:53 AM

can anyone actually post a screenshot that they sent mm a single join this year?

theking 10-15-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18493263)
Accept theft, keep quiet, that seems like the way of the adult webmaster.

If one does not choose to take legal recourse...then yes...theft/fraud is accepted and if one is not going to take legal recourse..one may as well be quite unless bitching makes one feel better.

Dubya 10-15-2011 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18493273)
can anyone actually post a screenshot that they sent mm a single join this year?

sent them 1 unique and it didn't convert, not happy.

porno jew 10-15-2011 10:58 AM

it would be theft if anyone actually sent any joins. the site is dead, it makes no money and at this point you should have links pulled anyway. who fucking cares?

Nautilus 10-15-2011 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18493228)
How the fuck is a site doing 144,000 uniques a day doing under 5 joins a month?

It's 150K uniques/month, not /day. Which corresponds pretty well with their Alexa rank of about 70000, 3-5K uniques/day is about right for that kinda rank.

From program owner's perspective, I believe those figures that Biggy gave you are about right. That site is definitely doing less than 5 joins/day, most likely 2-3 new joins/day on average. Like them or not, those figures are accurate.

150K/day is almost unheard of for a paysite nowadays, let alone solo girl site. If they had that amount of traffic, no way they'd be closing shop.

Dubya 10-15-2011 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 18493292)
It's 150K uniques/month, not /day. Which corresponds pretty well with their Alexa rank of about 70000, 3-5K uniques/day is about right for that kinda rank.

From program owner's perspective, I believe those figures that Biggy gave you are about right. That site is definitely doing less than 5 joins/day, most likely 2-3 new joins/day on average. Like them or not, those figures are accurate.

150K/day is almost unheard of for a paysite nowadays, let alone solo girl site. If they had that amount of traffic, no way they'd be closing shop.

someone had to correct him. I was too lazy.

Jel 10-15-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18493205)
Sounds like bullshit to me.

Take a look at http://siteanalytics.compete.com/melissamidwest.com/

143,960 uniques to a paysite (just one) and you are telling me they can't afford to live and pay their affiliates?

I bet those figures are extremely accurate...

Btw that's 144k (which it isn't anyway) a month, not day, and that's to the domain, which by the sounds of it includes every fhg of theirs, which obviously inflates the figure by a fair bit.

144k / 30 = 4800 per day, spread over the tour plus the FHGs. So at your example of 1:1000 even if it was all to the tour itself = 4.8 joins a day.

Jel 10-15-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubya (Post 18493294)
someone had to correct him. I was too lazy.

It's a shame I wasn't :1orglaugh

EukerVoorn 10-15-2011 11:11 AM

We would never treat our affiliates like this. Even if you owe one $1, you pay it.

woj 10-15-2011 11:12 AM

how come no one ever sues the affiliate program owner in situations like this? They clearly are not out of business, so collecting the $$ shouldn't be a problem....

Dubya 10-15-2011 11:12 AM

fuck you woj beat me.

signupdamnit 10-15-2011 11:12 AM

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It's 150K uniques/month, not /day. Which corresponds pretty well with their Alexa rank of about 70000, 3-5K uniques/day is about right for that kinda rank.

From program owner's perspective, I believe those figures that Biggy gave you are about right. That site is definitely doing less than 5 joins/day, most likely 2-3 new joins/day on average. Like them or not, those figures are accurate.

150K/day is almost unheard of for a paysite nowadays, let alone solo girl site. If they had that amount of traffic, no way they'd be closing shop.
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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18493299)
I bet those figures are extremely accurate...

Btw that's 144k (which it isn't anyway) a month, not day, and that's to the domain, which by the sounds of it includes every fhg of theirs, which obviously inflates the figure by a fair bit.

144k / 30 = 4800 per day, spread over the tour plus the FHGs. So at your example of 1:1000 even if it was all to the tour itself = 4.8 joins a day.

I had always thought that the stats on compete were per day not per month. If that is wrong then yes those figures are off (and they are also way off for my own sites according to what compete thinks, extremely low). I had not considered the FHGs either until he stated that but without really knowing the percentage which goes where it's hard to say.

If they aren't even doing 4,800 to the tour then yes it makes a lot more sense.

Still it's no excuse to keep the site up, process new joins and not at the very least pay any rebills due to webmasters. Not to mention money already owed.

porno jew 10-15-2011 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18493305)
We would never treat our affiliates like this. Even if you owe one $1, you pay it.

easy to say when you have none.

DVTimes 10-15-2011 11:14 AM

fhg all still up:

http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2525 Fun with racecars
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2524 Nude guitar lessons
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2523 Melissa and her girlfriend Sara
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2522 Midwest girl ravishing LA
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2521 Melissa getting crazy in LA
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2520 Halloween party
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2519 Girl sucking cock after the game
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2518 Sexy girl giving a footjob
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2517 Midwest girl fucking a dildo and a cock
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2516 Melissa getting down with Adri
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2515 Hot girl in a muscle car
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2514 Melissa taking a hot tub
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2513 Yummy amateur girl with a dildo
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2512 Cute chick getting down and dirty
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2511 Midwest girl with a dildo
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2510 Sexy Melissa in a hot camshow
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2509 Melissa fucking a dildo on the floor
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http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2507 Melissa Midwest in white lingerie
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http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2451 Cooking in the nudes
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2450 Nude in the tanning bed
http://galleries.melissamidwest.com/...OjE,0,0,0,2449 Giving head to a strapon

porno jew 10-15-2011 11:17 AM

only a retard like dvtimes would spam a dead program.

Dubya 10-15-2011 11:17 AM

thread closed.

Niktamer 10-15-2011 11:19 AM

Be sure, I understand all your rant.

For me, Melissa Midwest, was my first adult sale ever and Biggy was the first program webmaster i ever spoke to..I have big RESPECT for both

I totally get that you will pull links and rant over the missing payments

But for us, I will keep my links live on the content we have over our networks and she can keep all the sales from it all as good bye bonus... she made everyone a lot of money and always paid clockwork , I'm sure it really hard for her to leave like that.

I made awesome money from google serps and from her content. She always been a real good chit chat friend. (she confirmed on cam that i was not talking to her BF)

For me, Adam.. Melissa please consider it case close, no hard feeling.... you had a really good run on this one and you can be proud of what you achieved.

Good luck sweety, I'm sure you have a bright future. Always keep that sexy smile !

If you ever wanna sell the content you know where to find me.

thx for all those fan clips

kiss

Nick

signupdamnit 10-15-2011 11:20 AM

http://www.quantcast.com/melissamidwest.com

Tough to know which to believe but it does appear more likely it is between 5k - 25k per day, including galleries.

Dubya 10-15-2011 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Niktamer (Post 18493319)
Be sure, I understand all your rant.

For me, Melissa Midwest, was my first adult sale ever and Biggy was the first program webmaster i ever spoke to.. So I totally understand that you will pull links and rant over the missing payments

But for us, I will keep my links live on the content we have over our networks and she can keep all the sales from it all as good bye bonus... she made everyone a lot of money and always paid clockwork , I'm sure it really hard for her to leave like that.

I made awesome money from google serps and from her content. She always been a real good chit chat friend. (she confirmed on cam that i was not talking to her BF)

For me, Adam.. Melissa please consider it case close, no hard feeling you had a really good run and you can be proud of what you achieved

good luck sweety, i'm sure you have a bright future. Always keep that sexy smile !

If you ever wanna sell the content you know where to find me.

thx for all those fan clips

kiss

Nick

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