definitely time for a class action lawsuit

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i think the cash went on that big tv.

I'm not saying it will happen but that it could and that I have seen it happen in similar cases. How long did they plan this? If they were accepting rev share signups after they knew they would likely be closing it could be construed as fraud. If the police in the local area want to go after them and someone gets pissed enough to try it could happen.

nice. need some new pics for my sex personals site's profiles.

i could never understand why people pick stupid names like that for affiliate programs.

would you ever eat at a place called "Eat Shit Cafe"?

there are still rebills that are active, i know because i have two accounts, both with active rebills. i bought out someone's MM account (and a site) 2 years ago for low 4 figures.

you're right. FYC has experienced no success, nor do we make payouts on time and every time. the name isn't memorable at all.

if only I could've come up with an affiliate program name like yours.. chica4cash.com

Is she owes you money.

Just cut off her watermark on her pictures and use her content as if you own it.

There has to be rebills still active otherwise Biggy2 would be offering to pay what little is owed to affiliates and none of this would matter. It's obviously enough that they think they will be able to live off what they take from affiliates.

According to PornoJew none of these affiliates coming forward actually exist.

Is there any payment program that routes the cash to the affiliate first so this can't happen? If I was doing it, I'd have the payout go to the affiliate before or concurrent to paying the site.

I don't know any of the principles, I'm not an affiliate, and other than hoping the children get fed I have no stake at all in this.

looks juicy :)

I cant believe people are bitching about this, this is a solo model who hasn't been popular in about 4-5 years. I remember when she was the best thing since sliced bread and that was quote some time ago. I can't image them really owing that much money to people, where it is going to change anyone's life. I had some links up and sent some traffic, dont think its gotten a sale in about 2 years.

Out of all the posts of people bitching here, is there anyone who can prove they are out a shitload of money from rebills or sales? I doubt it. (unless i missed something already posted)

Being a solo program owner, I am pretty aware of what melissamidwest is making. Between what she still makes with 25k a day (the same type of traffic I get to mine) and the fact that she built up a huge member base so she has a ton of members retained. I can guarantee you that you guys are all being fed bullshit and they are still making a decent amount off that website.

If you receive roughly 20-25k a day, youre converting some of that. Theres no question about that, who do you think will believe otherwise? Traffic levels are public information.

20-25k a day that you receive is still more than most paysites these days.

Supz, if you ran solo girl websites, you'd understand exactly how many sales they are getting a day and that number is still higher than some newer sites.

DawsonMiller is a perfect example and shes making a few thousand a month, hasn't been active for years and has roughly the same amount of traffic, a good comparison

You are all being lied to about how they can't make a nats payment unless them to are relying on this website to pay all their bills and counting their bills towards costs. If so, at that time you go out and get a full time job instead of ripping people off.

Turboangel will probably hit him up.

Note to self, never use GalaxyVisions. Condoning and supporting theft can't be an attractive quality of a hosting providor.

Great idea. :Oh crap

Why does it matter if anyone is "out a shitload of money"? If it's even $10 then that is their ten dollars which is due to them.

People like you come here and tell us that unless we are affiliates with the program who are owed a lot of cash we shouldn't be speaking but at the same time who the hell are you? Are you even an affiliate in adult business at all? If not, then you have no room to talk about affiliates complaining or calling a sponsor out over this. For the most part affiliates understand why this stuff is bad because we empathize. I've noticed lots of other sponsors and others like yourself defending this sort of thing and let me tell you brother that gives me a very bad feeling about some of you. Maybe some of you are the ones who should be sitting down and shutting up?

This is what I don't understand either. Everyone bitches and moans about the industry and its problems. .xxx, tubes, content theft, card banging, file sharing, etc, etc, etc. Yet, here is a clear example of theft, fucking crystal clear. Now we find people supporting it, people blowing it off as no big deal, and everyone just keeping their mouths shut. Take notes, on who says what in these threads, this is an important lesson to all affiliates.

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LOL you people are dumb and have no understanding of business and law.

This is a civil matter and relates to the contract you have with her. Sue.

If you notice most of the ones supporting it and telling affiliates to shut up are sponsors from other programs or services. For the most part they aren't affiliates. Possibly with the exception of one or two people who based on how they act here seem to be mostly trolls.

So on one end affiliates shouldn't stick up for their fellow affiliates who are getting screwed because "it's none of their business" yet it's perfectly fine for sponsors and reps from other services and programs to come here and badmouth the affiliates who are speaking up. Strange double standard there. I speak up because I don't want one of my sponsors to do this crap tomorrow and that's more likely to happen if I don't speak out and raise a little hell.

This.

I've promoted Melissa for years. I probably haven't made her a sale in ages but, regardless, this is kind of a lame way to announce the closing of her affiliate program. "Hey, thanks for promoting me for ten years, everyone. Now get fucked!" Not cool. Then again, this business isn't exactly overflowing with moralistic people so I'm not surprised.

Note to self, Failed is an idiot and has no clue about business. I am not supporting what they are doing. People are making it seems like Reality Kings who is a huge program with massive amount of affiliates making huge amounts of money went out of business and beat people on there money when this is completely not the case.

And missing your virtual account is going to put us out of business.

It's a civil matter at the very least but that fact does not necessarily preclude a criminal act. It's incredibly rare but under some circumstances it has happened that such things became more. I could probably locate some case law if I really needed to but blah.

I am not saying only affiliates should come and bitch. The truth of the matter is, no adult porn site is going to stay around for ever, especially a solo girl, and keep converting like it did from day one, unless is has mainstream popularity, like a BangBus did or a MilfHunter did etc. This is a solo girl site that hasnt been popular in years, the content on the site was very old and people who want to buy porn want something new and fresh, which this deffinetly wasnt. The point is that I cant imagine a lot of people even pushing this site. So far everyone that comes into here hasnt said they are owed more then the account minimum. Yes, if you are owed 10 dollars you should get it. Do you know how many affilaite programs owe me money for the less then $100 rule. This is part of the business. It is something you adjust your business practices too. I stop promoting them because it does not convert and I move on.


I do not think anyone should lose out on money, and in every other case like SOBV etc I would never take this side. But this is an old outdates site that hasnt converted me a sale in 2 years. I would assume all others who pushed her from back in the day would agree its been a while since this site had any momentum.

Nope, you won't be affected at all by my lack of business. Quite honestly, I'm not that big, I made $1k in affiliate sales last month. Hardly a player in the industry. But, I keep working, one day...

The reality is, you're defending their actions and condoning theft. You say it's no big deal, you don't understand the big fuss, it's not like it was huge amounts of money. Tell me, intelligent business man, does a little theft not mean the same as a lot of theft? Does it matter that these thieves stole tens of thousands instead of hundreds of thousands?

If I'm an idiot for believing thieves should be held accountable for their actions, then so be it.

lol where you getting 'tens of thousands' from retard? so far we have a grand total of six bucks lost.

I think if you would have put the time of these posts of yours into your sites. You would be a lot better off. You just signed up this year. If you have been here for the last 2 or 3 years. You would know that a lot of programs have gone out of business. A lot of money is missing, and no one has done shit. You are not the occupy wall st of GFY. Another program will go out of business and take peoples money before the year is over. But if you want to stay with this for the long term. You have to be able to adjust quickly. Do some more research before signing up for a program, and get the most out of your efforts. If you have spent 1 hour marketing for Melissa Midwest this year. You spent 1 hour to much, it is an old site with old content and no momentum. It has been on the downturn for a while now. And if you do not see this. It will be hard to succeed. If you sign up to programs based on how hot the girl is, it will be hard to succeed. Picking sponsors and content is more then that. There is a bigger picture.

And I do not condone any stealing of affiliates money.

I have $400 - $600 a month in rebills and new sales to one sponsor in particular who hasn't updated in four years and isn't listed on either signbucks.com or whopaidme. Do you think I want to lose $400 a month in rebills in this same way? And for every other sponsor like this which I have? No. Those rebills are mine. I sent them and I want my money.

There are right ways to shut down programs and there are wrong ways to shut down. This is an example of a wrong way. And it doesn't matter how many affiliates you think are owed money or how much you think it is because you probably don't really know that just as I don't.

This is the point I am trying to make. I am not for theft from affiliates, obviously. I guess trying to explain it is logical terms doesnt work on here.

Read the whole thread, there is more than the one person claiming the $6. And again, you're voice here has no validity at all. You can't/won't answer any of the questions I posed to you. You won't call for actual proof by telling biggy to post the numbers that he only has access to now, you're just a fucking useless troll or making money off this theft as well.

So again, why don't you, who so highly values facts and reality, call for biggy to post the numbers he has access to? So we can all find out the real numbers. Fucking coward.

proof or ban.

if you think your white knight crusade is going to stop some other sponsor going broke and not paying affiliates in the future you are delusional.

I can take half quotes and call for bans too. Quit being a coward and back up your claims of valuing fact and reality.

You are right, this is not the right way. But I am not talking about the program that is rebilling 400-600 a month for you. We are talking about Melissa Money. And I highly doubt it was rebilling 400-600 for anyone. Even its biggest one time affiliates. Maybe biggy will share stats with us, if he knows anyone who is owed a lot of money.


PS. I wrote this before I saw Failed as for someone to ask biggy to post proof.

NO BODY CARES HOW THESE IDIOTS BLOW *THEIR* MONEY. The fact of the matter is, they receive a check, transfer (whatever) from their processor. 50% of that money generated from affiliate sales is due to the affiliate. It's when these jack asses get themselves in financial trouble that they get paid and decide "fuck the affiliate, I need all of that money to my bills". Which in most cases is *personal* bills and nothing to do with running the website. Since we all know putting a website on cruise control and paying the hosting bill is sooo expensive.

The question I would have for you Biggy, are you still getting paid? Not sure if you will answer that one honestly or not, or if we could ever find out for sure one way or the other. But if they screwed you, you not getting paid either and you have no control, I wouldn't blame you. If you still getting paid and affiliates are not, then you are just as bad as them.

Then their asses should end up in jail. Again, it's not their money to take. Just because they fucked up in their personal investing gives them no right or excuse to steal the affiliates money.

Your arrangement is weak and bullshit. They have money every time their processor pays them. Which portion of the money should then be passed directly to the people it is owed to. Their personal problems are their own problem. If they don't make enough to support their lifestyle or their financial mistakes then go get a second or third fucking job, don't steal from your affiliates who made you millions of dollars that you blew. The least they could do is put the site on cruise control, pay out the affiliates and keep their cut after covering their small amount of overhead (nats license and hosting.)

Damn shut the fuck up. You sound like a whinny little bitch. "Who fucking cares" says the guy who has already posted more than anyone else in this thread, 40 times!!!

This is the same thing the guy from Tyco went to jail for isn't it? Enron?