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Brujah 10-16-2011 12:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18494965)
Well JJ wasn't as attractive as Melissa so JJ didn't get any "thank yous" from the people he screwed.
Ain't this the truth? :1orglaugh

spunky99 10-16-2011 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 18495000)
What's this "fieldhouse" thingy?
the white rapper that didnt become the next eminem

Bravo 10-16-2011 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by spunky99 (Post 18494658)
ive known biggy for almost 8 years now.. i talked to him last night bout the whole melissa issue, he wasn't getting paid yet he came here to be everyone's punching bag. he wasnt in control of the payments or the $. if he was, people would have gotten paid.

there is no point in getting worked up with this because shane or melissa won't change their mind on this. the $ is gone and that's just part of the biz i guess.

i lost low $xxxx cause of this but in the end i made a TON of money from melissamoney. thanks for taking cock melissa :)

links are easy to remove and change, and its time to move on :)
+1
links pulled, it was a good site and good times.

Failed 10-16-2011 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18494705)
If you look carefully at my posts in ENTIRETY, that is what I did. I said I am a messenger and providing transparency. Someone said I was defending them, to which I adamantly said, no I am not. But I get the thread is long and people don't want to read. Not paying people is wrong. When I found out, I took the appropriate action of letting people know.

But I also did say they ran out of $, and this is what happens when people run out of $. Go back and re-read everything, including my posts.

Then I responded to some other random comments people posted, and now people just assume I am on their side since I am disagreeing with them over other smaller comments, so as you get lost in the little things, their perception of the big picture is now totally changed, so let me say it one more time. Not paying affiliates is wrong.
In the interests of transparency, which you're interested in providing us all with. Why not open nats back up? Why not provide screen shots of what's truly owed, the total amount of rebills, everything? I've read every post in this thread and have commented plenty of times myself, but not one time did I see you act as a messenger of transparency. The only thing I've seen is excuse after excuse of why you partnered with the other thieves, have stole every affiliates money.

For all the affiliates out there, I say again, pay attention to who shows sympathy, to who bashes affiliates for demanding what's right, and for who tells you to be quiet and move on. There is a huge amount of knowledge to be taken away from this thread!

BareBacked 10-16-2011 12:57 PM
I would like to guess that 75% of her traffic came from type in traffic.

Sure there will be affiliates owed but in reality its a tiny % .
Not cool but all things end.
Bitching about it here is not going to make you anymore money if you are not even an affiliate.

Biggy did the right thing for sure. You should all be thanking him for ALERTING YOU of trouble so you can pull your links now and not waste more traffic

BareBacked 10-16-2011 01:01 PM
I have to admit all this time I thought Biggy was Shane LOL

Failed 10-16-2011 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18495075)
For all the affiliates out there, I say again, pay attention to who shows sympathy, to who bashes affiliates for demanding what's right, and for who tells you to be quiet and move on. There is a huge amount of knowledge to be taken away from this thread!
Quote:
Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 18495077)
Biggy did the right thing for sure. You should all be thanking him for ALERTING YOU of trouble so you can pull your links now and not waste more traffic
:1orglaugh

icymelon 10-16-2011 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18493148)
Melissa was the first paysite I did in adult, well before FYC. I was an affiliate, we got fucked over at the time by the guy who was managing the site - Jim from Nebraska Coeds. I got fucked for $15k, Melissa/Shane for a bit more. We decided to come together to do the site. Shane was really the driving force behind the site, I don't think it should come as a shock to anyone that for a long time it was him posing as her (including on this board as Hotmelissa).

This is actually how I transitioned from being an affiliate to a program owner. I managed the website - technical, affiliate support, etc. They shot the content, paid the bills, and ran the brick and mortar operations, and everything else (including controlling the $) After college, I went on to form FYC and the rest with my partners today. So yeah, I understand where the lines are blurred about what my interest is.

I was on a profit split, and I was a minority, they were a majority. When she went independent, she had a lot of people contacting her to do her site, including Lensman from here at the time. Melissa's site was great for a period of time. Fuck, when she went hardcore, that thing shot thru the roof, a lot of people made amazing money including the affiliates. They are now out of $, through a bunch of very public poor investment choices that Mutt posted, so there is no $. It's sad, and honestly, I hope they pull through it.

As recently as last week people were complaining about not being paid. This was primarily due to the fact things were left as "unpaid" in payments.php, and I pointed this out to many affiliates who contacted me, because these issues had happened in the past. All affiliates who contacted me, except one (cornh0le) didn't actually know if they were paid or not. The one who was a confirmed non-pay I contacted them about. After about 4 un-replied emails, I told them I needed an answer, and only at that point was I informed they fell arrears by about 2-3 payments to all affiliates. I told them if there is no trajectory to get affiliates paid, then notice has to be given and we need to shut the program down.

Flame me away, allow me to be your punching bag.

Im available via ICQ for those who wish to reach out directly.
Just a suggestion. I'm sure it will get lost in the pages of threads. But in most webmaster minds it is tough to understand why the site would just go offline. My personal opinion is to keep the site online as a revshare. If the books are really in the red bad even a lower payout 60/40 split is better than nothing. Put the site on autopilot. Nats and a server is going to run less than $500 month. Cut all other expenses. She obviously has a large fan base. I have not been inside the members area. so I do not know how much content exists but I have to guess there is enough content to charge at least $19.95 month. In the longrun the owners will make more money. If doing the payouts is too much work change that to quarterly payments. I am thinking 4x year is enough work for the most lazy person out there.

Tempest 10-16-2011 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18494650)
Let's say the whole program does 12 new joins a day (conservative considering all the other sites they have).
Given the traffic levels and the stats 2 people have actually posted in this thread, I'd have to say that the < 5/day is probably far more accurate than your 12, especially given they're charging $30/month which is wayyyyy too high for a site like that in it's current state. As for rebills, the site has been "dead" for years now apparently so those are going to be really low as well.

slapass 10-16-2011 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 18495170)
Given the traffic levels and the stats 2 people have actually posted in this thread, I'd have to say that the < 5/day is probably far more accurate than your 12, especially given they're charging $30/month which is wayyyyy too high for a site like that in it's current state. As for rebills, the site has been "dead" for years now apparently so those are going to be really low as well.
Dead is subjective. He claims to have been paying to upload videos etc and she was doing cam shows.

Even at 5 a day the site was making her money and notice that it still is as they are still taking customers. She has just decided to fuck us is all.

12clicks 10-16-2011 02:26 PM
9 pages of boo hooing because a solo girl site went belly up.
Shows how utterly clueless affiliates are.

Qbert 10-16-2011 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18495193)
9 pages of boo hooing because a solo girl site went belly up.
Shows how utterly clueless affiliates are.
The fact that you think the comments of a handful of affiliates in this topic are representative of the majority of affiliates shows how utterly clueless YOU are.

Nickatilynx 10-16-2011 02:39 PM
Are people here really this stupid.

Biggy gave a great explaination.

He is merely the messenger. ie Relaying the news as he knows it.

In a nutshell biggy said :

"Affiliates , you are not getting paid , sorry , neither am I , but I thought you should all know the background"

Biggy is and always has been a class act.

It appears to me all posters here with traffic understand this message.

12clicks 10-16-2011 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Qbert (Post 18495210)
The fact that you think the comments of a handful of affiliates in this topic are representative of the majority of affiliates shows how utterly clueless YOU are.
Sure kid.
Let's discuss it doing normal business hours tomorrow.
Oh right, you'll be out doing whatever your real job is.
But I'm clueless.:1orglaugh

nikki99 10-16-2011 03:36 PM
I love Melissa MidWest :thumbsup

theking 10-16-2011 03:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18494705)
If you look carefully at my posts in ENTIRETY, that is what I did. I said I am a messenger and providing transparency. Someone said I was defending them, to which I adamantly said, no I am not. But I get the thread is long and people don't want to read. Not paying people is wrong. When I found out, I took the appropriate action of letting people know.

But I also did say they ran out of $, and this is what happens when people run out of $. Go back and re-read everything, including my posts.

Then I responded to some other random comments people posted, and now people just assume I am on their side since I am disagreeing with them over other smaller comments, so as you get lost in the little things, their perception of the big picture is now totally changed, so let me say it one more time. Not paying affiliates is wrong.

will76 - is a known idiot. dude will argue anything until he's blue in the face, not even going to attempt to go there haha or read his posts tbh.
For what it is worth...I read your posts and the bottom line to me is that...you came across loud and clear that you are not defending them but just a messenger and that not paying affiliates is wrong.

Phoenix 10-16-2011 03:57 PM
She was hot...sad to see she is leaving the biz with no money banked :(
nice of you to stick your chin out Adam

dirtwars 10-16-2011 04:10 PM
I've been an affiliate with melissa money for about 4 years. Prolly made around 20k from her site. The program used to make a lot more money (on a good month i'd make around $1k), but even today I still make around 50-100 each month. I sell a subscription here and there probably around 2 a month at a rate of 1/1500 - 1/2000.

I'm owed a bit of money from melissa money. I'd say to be honest its bullshit to not get paid out what is owed. Steal the rebills if you want, but at least close out the bills. I'm not really surprised this is going down, but after reading the thread and hearing that no one is an affiliate, etc, and people who made money with her in the past are saying good things, etc. I just wanted to post my 2 cents.

Its strictly business. Shutting down lifetime affiliate payments is shady, but whatever it is what it is. Not paying outstanding amounts with 0 notice is bullshit. I'm sure that a lot of cash was made off this site, and a lot of things were bought, etc on that rev. Please kindly . . pay out your fucking affiliates.

Biggie do me a favor, if it ain't your fault, and your not being paid, etc.. . just post ownership details out here. Location, numbers, etc. not a problem at all. Why would you protect people that are fucking you out of cash?

RycEric 10-16-2011 04:16 PM
Melissa was our first client and vocal against piracy. She is what drove me to venture on and I am grateful for her past support.

Diomed 10-16-2011 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HotMelissa (Post 15824669)
I have made millions of dollars in the business saved and invested well so I am not worried. Keep talking though if you are really that bored or really have no life I will entertain you as much as I can, Melissa
Hmm... Does she speak the truth?

nikki99 10-16-2011 04:36 PM
I remember the July 4th video with the fireworks :thumbsup

nikki99 10-16-2011 04:43 PM
Melissa, I am a fan of your music :thumbsup

qwe 10-16-2011 04:50 PM
that site is pulling a ton of money just from rebills each month, whoever says otherwise don't know shit... if she made millions before, then as I remember she had a contest for a new girl that gave out free condo/100g's etc that means her site was super popular... she was also in a spot light with press, p0lice, cnn, etc, etc, that's a quality traffic right there... this dude's story how they're broke is a pure bs, they probably just don't want a ton of law suits

Mutt 10-16-2011 04:53 PM
i'm confused by something, Biggy says Melissa hasn't shot content in 2-3 years but a few times in this thread it's been said she is still doing cam shows?

if she has been doing cam shows, and she's having money problems which is the reason given by Biggy for shutting down the affiliate program, she should get on MFC where she'd make 10K a month easily and 20K if she worked it harder. she's far from washed up as a model, she's still cute, her solo site days might be over but she'd make bank doing MFC or Streamate.

Qbert 10-16-2011 04:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18495221)
Sure kid.
Let's discuss it doing normal business hours tomorrow.
Oh right, you'll be out doing whatever your real job is.
But I'm clueless.:1orglaugh
More clueless assumptions from the king of clueless.

1) I'm no kid. I'm older than you, and have the AARP card to prove it.
2) I've been self-employed, making a comfortable living working from home, since 1998.

C'mon, sling some more clueless insults, seems to be about all you're good at.

Mutt 10-16-2011 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Qbert (Post 18495394)

1) I'm no kid. I'm older than you, and have the AARP card to prove it.
damn what's become of us in this industry? people are bragging now about being old!!!

'listen son, there's more hair in my ears than on the top of your head so bring it biyaaaaaaatch!'

georgeyw 10-16-2011 05:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18495389)
i'm confused by something, Biggy says Melissa hasn't shot content in 2-3 years but a few times in this thread it's been said she is still doing cam shows?

if she has been doing cam shows, and she's having money problems which is the reason given by Biggy for shutting down the affiliate program, she should get on MFC where she'd make 10K a month easily and 20K if she worked it harder. she's far from washed up as a model, she's still cute, her solo site days might be over but she'd make bank doing MFC or Streamate.
That is a fantastic idea - she would definitely make huge money on MFC.

I think her site could still do well if actively updated - why doesn't she do this?

porno jew 10-16-2011 05:27 PM
they could just let mediarevenue manage the site. sound like a win win for melissa and the affiliates.

Lucy - CSC 10-16-2011 05:45 PM
She thinks she is going to become famous because of the record. I saw another girl go round telling everyone she was leaving porn to become a famous singer. Had a single about as good as Melissas. She was back taking it up the arse within 6 months after it didnt work out.

Traffic Guru 10-16-2011 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18495193)
9 pages of boo hooing because a solo girl site went belly up.
Shows how utterly clueless affiliates are.
Says the guy with affiliate program that has no affiliates and updated their member areas back in 2006.

JimmyStephans 10-16-2011 06:34 PM
I've read the entire thread. What a mess.

Never been an affiliate, so not speaking from experience, and had a question or two.

If she is running NATS, how do affiliates normally get their payment?

Monthly check?

Paxum?

Wire?

How does it normally work with a NATS program?

Biggy2 10-16-2011 06:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18495389)
i'm confused by something, Biggy says Melissa hasn't shot content in 2-3 years but a few times in this thread it's been said she is still doing cam shows?

if she has been doing cam shows, and she's having money problems which is the reason given by Biggy for shutting down the affiliate program, she should get on MFC where she'd make 10K a month easily and 20K if she worked it harder. she's far from washed up as a model, she's still cute, her solo site days might be over but she'd make bank doing MFC or Streamate.
She hasnt done a cam show in years. There's no reason to extend the conversation people. It's over. Remove your links.

The dates get updated with the recycled content. It's a new advanced technology I invented.

Mutt 10-16-2011 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18495527)
She hasnt done a cam show in years. There's no reason to extend the conversation people. It's over. Remove your links.

The dates get updated with the recycled content. It's a new advanced technology I invented.
yeah that's what i thought but people kept mentioning cam shows as if she was still doing them.

dating recycled content is a great invention, not sure who was first - might be MikeAI possibly :)

Failed 10-16-2011 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18495527)
There's no reason to extend the conversation people. It's over. Remove your links.
Biggy Biggy Biggy can't you see
Sometimes your words just hypnotize me
And I just love your flashy ways
Guess that's why they broke, and you're so paid

Major (Tom) 10-16-2011 07:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18495193)
9 pages of boo hooing because a solo girl site went belly up.
Shows how utterly clueless affiliates are.
100% correct
ds

signupdamnit 10-16-2011 07:34 PM
follow me on top of extreme-board.com @signupdamnit


...wait. er fuck. I'm seeing things. I need a drink here. Sorry guys. :(

looky_lou 10-16-2011 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18495527)
She hasnt done a cam show in years. There's no reason to extend the conversation people. It's over. Remove your links.

The dates get updated with the recycled content. It's a new advanced technology I invented.
What a condescending arrogant fuck you are. :321GFY

Roald 10-16-2011 09:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18495527)
She hasnt done a cam show in years. There's no reason to extend the conversation people. It's over. Remove your links.

The dates get updated with the recycled content. It's a new advanced technology I invented.
Ok ok but 1 last thing, she single now or not?

If yes, get me her number, i always had a crush on her!

:thumbsup

the Shemp 10-16-2011 11:09 PM
i guess theres no chance of getting a fan sign now :(

LiveDose 10-16-2011 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18493720)

Chicken dinner, lol

Failed 10-16-2011 11:39 PM
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1304/99102894.jpg

LexiLexxx 10-16-2011 11:42 PM
I so agree Mutt! She could kill it on Streamate. What a mess, as u know must of these girls get real lazy! Fast/quick/good $$$ comes in and they ae RICH! Not paying up here is sad! Girl needs to get on cam. Just ask Amy Fisher! lol

shade001 10-17-2011 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18493549)
You're just a troll from what I gather so this is the last reply before you go on ye olde ignore list. But I care because I am an adult affiliate and when I first started in this industry it was common for us to support and look out for one another so that sponsors didn't fuck us. Old habits die hard and all.

It's also a little premature to say no one is owed money. It was just posted this morning.
I used to say the same shit a couple of years ago. But at some point I realized it made me look like a chump who didn't understand the business. Surely you have better things to do with your time, considering you are not owed a penny?

shade001 10-17-2011 12:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 18494672)
slight tweak:


Money earned from the program goes to Shane.

Shane does not pay Biggy.
Biggy, third party "operator", -updates site, runs wm support.
Shane pays affiliates out of own pocket.
Biggy confirms that Shane will not be paying affiliates.
Biggy has no choice but to close "program."
I don't know you and you don't know me but I give you credit for putting up with the little girls in this thread. I would have said 'fuck you' and been done with it.

AllAboutCams 10-17-2011 12:36 AM
she ows me $30 but if sh gives me a blowjob ill call it quits

Jel 10-17-2011 01:23 AM
Fuck there are some idiots in here...

slapass 10-17-2011 02:11 AM
Ivy Snow's site has about half the traffic and her site got a redo. And this one closes because they can't pay people..... hmmmm.

PromoterX 10-17-2011 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18495804)
Okay that made me giggle a bit. :thumbsup

MasterBlow 10-17-2011 04:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18495193)
9 pages of boo hooing because a solo girl site went belly up.
Shows how utterly clueless affiliates are.
you're right :thumbsup

DVTimes 10-17-2011 04:52 AM
9 pages of moaning.


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