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12clicks 10-19-2011 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18500832)
So your okay with politicians, elected officials, unions and the media being paid or given gifts to swing votes in favor of those that paid them the most?

You aren't for a more fair tax code that gets everyone to pay?

You are okay with that corporations that "do" damage earth for profit at the cost of people lives?

You think our school and education system is spot on? We're one of the worst in the world with 3rd world countries above us..... just fyi.

You don't agree with fair trade agreements that don't screw us on every transaction?


The rest is arguable if you do or don't like or support it.... but the above, not so much.

But that is what is great out this movement - its core message is to end corruption, but it also has a ton of side dishes you can latch onto if you like as well.

now we understand how the idiot reads it and I'm guessing thats their target audience.

now lets let the intelligent read it over and get their opinion.

CaptainHowdy 10-19-2011 06:06 AM

It's not theft, it's collectivization ...

TheDoc 10-19-2011 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18500852)
now we understand how the idiot reads it and I'm guessing thats their target audience.

now lets let the intelligent read it over and get their opinion.

Yes, that's how you read and comprehend things... one day you'll learn how to do it too.

Btw, great job answering the questions and twisting it to mean nothing, such a signature 12clicks move.


...... I agree with Porno Jew, you are gfy's newest Paul Markham.

12clicks 10-19-2011 07:01 AM

lets go down their list.
1. stop private spending on politics. public financing of political campaigns.
translation: spending money we don't have.
2. strike down a supreme court decision and ban corps. unions, and the very wealthy from political contributions.
translation: impliment taxation without representation since corps. and the wealthy pay taxes. throw in unions to make is seem fair.
3. don't let elected officials hold a job in a corp they regulate at the same time or hold stock in same company for 5 years.
translation: none. the first part doesn't happen and the second part is unconstitutional.
4. lifetime ban on gifts to elected officials.
comment: not a bad idea. completely unenforceable but not a bad idea to have on the books.
5. raise taxes on the rich.
translation: raise taxes on the successful so the unsuccessful will feel better.
6. institute a single payer health care system unless you're successful, then you pay for your own.
translation: huge spending we can't afford to gift the poor and middle class something they currently value less than their latest iphone and new car.
7. make the epa stronger than it is with the ability to shut down businesses, institute cap and trade.
translation: raise costs on energy that will be past onto consumers and drive companies away because of an overly regulated environmental plan
8. another call to raise taxes on the industries and people already paying the bulk of our country's bill
translation: raise taxes on our best people and businesses. if any businesses are still here, lets gouge them once more and act shocked when they leave and take their jobs with them.
9. lets spend more money on training that won't work and infrastructure.
translation: lets pretend we have the money to spend and that we haven't been spending billions on infrastructure every year already.
10. lets create another corporate tax to pay off student loans.
translation: lets gouge the last evil corps who've stayed in america so we can give freeloaders debt relief for a college education they CHOSE TO GO INTO DEBT FOR.
11. immediate passage of the dream act.
translation: instead of deporting illegal immigrants, lets give every mexican who slides out between a criminal's legs a college education. like we have the money for that too. but hey, it will increase the underclass voting rolls.
12. recall much of our military from around the world.
comments: good idea. sucks that it comes in at #12 but at least it came in.
13. mandating new educational goals and paying teachers a competitive salary.
translation: pretending we're falling behind the rest of the world educationally like we pretended in the '80s. Japan was supposed to own us by now. And apparently they're for lowering teachers' salaries to what the real world makes for 9 months of work.
14. offer tax incentives to businesses and spend money on public works projects.
translation: offer incentives that won't work and spend more money we don't have
15. legislate the end of currency manipulation and trade deficits.
comments: a noble cause.
16. Immediate reenactment of the Glass-Steagall Act and criminal investigations of the past collapse.
comments: I'm sure they meant "re-instate" Glass-Steagall which is a good idea, looking for scape goats, not so much.
17. the Federal Reserve shall buy all underwater or foreclosed mortgages and refinance these debts at 1% or less
translation: unicorns and lolly pops for people who made bad decisions.
18. An immediate one year freeze on all foreclosures to be reviewed by an independent foreclosure task force
translation: create another giant bureaucracy to interfere with the free market. again spending money we don't have for a cause we don't need.
19. free air time to political candidates.
translation: since nothing is "free" we'll spend more money we don't have.
20. immediate withdrawal of all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.
comments: good plan.


so in a 20 point plan, there's what, 3 good things in it and the rest are totally idiotic.

12clicks 10-19-2011 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18500874)
Yes, that's how you read and comprehend things... one day you'll learn how to do it too.

Btw, great job answering the questions and twisting it to mean nothing, such a signature 12clicks move.


...... I agree with Porno Jew, you are gfy's newest Paul Markham.

hahaha. dude, you're not taken seriously by anyone. neither is porno jew.
if it weren't for the internet, you'd both be shouting at passers-by who didn't want to hear you instead of typing on industry boards you washed out of who don't want to hear you.

CIVMatt 10-19-2011 07:36 AM

I'm sorry the person in charge is 18?

nation-x 10-19-2011 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18499403)
Funny, I did a search and did not come up with the results you promised. What link did I miss?

Old people don't carry around $5500 Macs... and there is a stark difference in location and logistics of Tea Party protests and this Occupy protest. Not really apples to apples...

12clicks 10-19-2011 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18501096)
Old people don't carry around $5500 Macs... and there is a stark difference in location and logistics of Tea Party protests and this Occupy protest. Not really apples to apples...

yes, things were stolen in the midst of one gathering and not the other.

Sly 10-19-2011 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18501096)
Old people don't carry around $5500 Macs... and there is a stark difference in location and logistics of Tea Party protests and this Occupy protest. Not really apples to apples...

True. OWS has items worthy of stealing while Tea Party does not.

TheDoc 10-19-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18500969)
hahaha. dude, you're not taken seriously by anyone. neither is porno jew.
if it weren't for the internet, you'd both be shouting at passers-by who didn't want to hear you instead of typing on industry boards you washed out of who don't want to hear you.

No kidding... Think about if people too us seriously, that would suck. Take yourself for example: if people actually took us seriously, then everyone would think you're a raging asshole douche bag loser for the last 10 years or something, oh wait.... :1orglaugh


Yeah without the Internet, let's see - it would probably mean I wouldn't sell my store based products online, shocking I know. And it would also mean, you would still be pounding nails...

devilspost 10-19-2011 08:46 AM

50 political posts

12clicks 10-19-2011 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18501175)

Yeah without the Internet, let's see - it would probably mean that I was an out of work ex military puke who couldnt hack it And it would also mean, you would still be a successful business owner

there, fixed it for you

baddog 10-19-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18501096)
Old people don't carry around $5500 Macs... and there is a stark difference in location and logistics of Tea Party protests and this Occupy protest. Not really apples to apples...

I am surprised that the 99% can afford a $5500 Mac to carry around to a protest.

DaddyHalbucks 10-19-2011 10:18 AM

They should be cool with it. After all, they advocate anarchy.

BFT3K 10-19-2011 10:29 AM

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10...esident-obama/

Loryn 10-19-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18498958)
Crime in the biggest US city? Get out of here... that's impossible!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Loryn 10-19-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 18501483)
They should be cool with it. After all, they advocate anarchy.

Hey that's a good point there Daddy... wasn't there a bunch of them saying they hate money and that people shouldn't have to have money to live... :1orglaugh

TheDoc 10-19-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18501458)
there, fixed it for you

Weee... I win!

Sad you showed your true inner self and colors to us... would you like to sling any other laughable attacks towards what made and continues to make this Country great?

BFT3K 10-19-2011 10:46 AM

http://videosift.com/video/TDS-The-9...dh-John-Oliver

SuckOnThis 10-19-2011 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18499190)
I don't remember any reports of theives at the tea party rallies.

odd that.....


Since social security checks are now direct deposited what is there to steal? Misspelled signs and lawn chairs?


http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/k/v/2/amensty.jpg


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bvblacksp...32bf5a05fa.jpg

sperbonzo 10-19-2011 11:10 AM

Imagine how many months the national media would be going on about this if it happened at a tea party rally...

http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/211...cupy-Cleveland

CLEVELAND -- Police are investigating the claim of a 19-year-old Cleveland woman that she was raped in a tent Saturday at "Occupy Cleveland."

The woman attends Summit Academy in Parma, a school for young people with educational abilities like Attention Deficit Disorder, Autism and hyperactvity.

She described what allegedly happened to her to a teacher, which led to a police report being made Monday.

The school declined comment on the student or incident and referred questions to a spokesman for the group that owns the school.

The girl alleges that she was at Occupy Cleveland Saturday night. She claims "rally personnel" told her to share a tent with the suspect, due to a shortage of tents.

The suspect allegedly said his name was "Leland." She claims she went to sleep and awoke to find "Leland " molesting her.

A rape kit was taken and an examination was performed at MetroHhealth Medical Center's Emergency Room.

Occupy Cleveland has been remarkably trouble-free, with protesters and police getting along and police making donations to the cause.

We were told the group does not make tent "assignmments " and that no one was familiar with either the alleged victim or the suspect.

Occupy Cleveland Spokeswoman Erin McCardle read a prepared on-camera statement after reading a police report provided by Channel 3.

She had not heard about the incident.

She said, "This is a very serious allegation and we are cooperating with the Cleveland Police Department fo find out what actually occurred."

The group has a tent city on a sidewalk just off Public Square.

Some members stay awake on a "Nightwatch" program for security reasons and is seeking counselors from community members to deal with any emotional impact of the alleged incident.

The alleged victim lives with roommates in a home in Cleveland.

Her mother is recovering from a stroke.


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_Richard_ 10-19-2011 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18500704)
That is because Tea Party protesters are regular people who have jobs and families and responsibilities...... unlike the trustafarian hippie trash that makes up the majority of the OWS protesters. :winkwink:

i saw a pic of a ww2 vetern the other day using a walker to protest

i understand you're a fan of catch-phrases and everything, i just can't argue with your reality with that in mind.

perhaps the vet was a trustafarian example of hippie trash? is that what you're saying?

12clicks 10-19-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18501534)
Weee... I win!

Sad you showed your true inner self and colors to us... would you like to sling any other laughable attacks towards what made and continues to make this Country great?

dude, you live in a deluded world of one.:thumbsup

D Ghost 10-19-2011 01:28 PM

I think they are still a little more pissed at the billions and trillions of their taxpayer dollars that have been misappropriated and/or stolen.

D Ghost 10-19-2011 01:32 PM

http://www.hulu.com/watch/290660/the...usa#s-p1-sr-i1

TheDoc 10-19-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18501624)
dude, you live in a deluded world of one.:thumbsup

Yawn... yes, it's one world, with your deluded ass as the ring leader of stupidity.


Anyway, I'm actually bored with you now, your entertainment value has worn off. It's not like you've ever been smart enough to actually debate a topic, and it used to be fun to push your buttons and watch you spew stupidity.... but now, not so much, now it's just sad.

cykoe6 10-20-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18500704)
That is because Tea Party protesters are regular people who have jobs and families and responsibilities...... unlike the trustafarian hippie trash that makes up the majority of the OWS protesters. :winkwink:


Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18501595)
i saw a pic of a ww2 vetern the other day using a walker to protest

perhaps the vet was a trustafarian example of hippie trash? is that what you're saying?


I said that trustafarian hippie trash makes up a "majority" of the protesters. Obviously they are not all spoiled rich kids...... some are just run-of-the-mill crazy people who are off their meds.

Brujah 10-20-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blazin (Post 18499421)
It's funny how people are vilifying the protesters who for the most part have been peaceful... Isn't this what democracy all about???

Please stop making sense. There's no call for that.

cykoe6 10-20-2011 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18505047)
I said that trustafarian hippie trash makes up a "majority" of the protesters. Obviously they are not all spoiled rich kids...... some are just run-of-the-mill crazy people who are off their meds.


Some examples:


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The tent city that has sprung up on the steps of Oakland City Hall has attracted a diverse range of people, many with competing ideologies and world views. Homeless people, ex-convicts, at least one registered sex offender, students, unemployed hotel workers, anarchists and reform-minded activists freely mingle together in what amounts to a democracy free-for-all.

Sometimes, everyone appears to be on the same page. But the skein of civility has been frequently shattered as bullies, the mentally ill, drunks, thugs and anarchists have threatened the safety and well-being of the camp's more peaceful residents. Occupy Oakland has grown out of demonstrations that began in a New York City park a
month ago as a protest against what occupiers see as corporate greed.


http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-...nclick_check=1

Just regular hard working Americans enjoying the anarchy. :1orglaugh

papill0n 10-20-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18499010)
Exactly, and as long as we're just talking out of our asses, I'd like to add this...

Lizard tomatoes and onion heads walk the night with bags full of chicken parts. The pope loves salami sandwiches, and he even washes the trees! Cows for the space aliens!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

papill0n 10-20-2011 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18505047)
I said that trustafarian hippie trash makes up a "majority" of the protesters. Obviously they are not all spoiled rich kids...... some are just run-of-the-mill crazy people who are off their meds.

so why would anyone deserve to have their shit stolen ?

you dont support stealing do you ?

cykoe6 10-21-2011 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 18505518)
so why would anyone deserve to have their shit stolen ?

you dont support stealing do you ?


I don't believe that they deserve to have their precious little MacBooks stolen........ instead I believe that they deserve to have someone take their MacBook and beat them to death with it. You see the difference? :)

blazin 10-21-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18506144)
I don't believe that they deserve to have their precious little MacBooks stolen........ instead I believe that they deserve to have someone take their MacBook and beat them to death with it. You see the difference? :)

You would have made an excellent Nazi.... shame you was born too late for it.

glamourmodels 10-21-2011 02:53 PM


cykoe6 10-22-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by blazin (Post 18507375)
You would have made an excellent Nazi.... shame you was born too late for it.

Ummmmmm....... thanks? :1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 10-22-2011 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18500704)
That is because Tea Party protesters are regular people who have jobs and families and responsibilities...... unlike the trustafarian hippie trash that makes up the majority of the OWS protesters. :winkwink:

jobs like making pipe bombs ?

http://todochido.com/news-politics/1...b-suspect.html

death threats ?
http://www.middletownjournal.com/new...st-674455.html

child rape ?

http://www.vbs.tv/en-ca/blog/tea-par...d-rape-charges

ripping people off ?
http://www.lvrj.com/news/tea-party-c...-89721282.html

computer piracy ?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20...iracy-charges/


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