Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18501804)

Of course there is. Every social and fiscal policy that this administration has proposed comes from the left and/or the far left.

Obama set the table with his healthcare reform. Stuffing that garbage bill down the throats of the country and basically telling the republicans TOO BAD,we got the power. The supreme court will have to waste their time determining if it's even constitutional. A wide majority of the country is against it.

That was his defining moment. He pissed in the rights wheaties and they haven't forgotten.
Nor will they. And we will see in 12 months if the country has.

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18501884)

policies can come from as far left as the day is long, but c'mon. not every dem is a communist tree hugger just like not every repub is a evangelist racist. shit has to be somewhere in the middle or it gets thrown out.

but see what i mean? people say they want obama to "show some leadership" and when he does something like lead people into the health care bill, suddenly it's been "stuffed down throats". the same type of health care that the republican front runner romney has already imposed. the "wide majority" is against health care? please. the "wide majority" is just against obama.

repubs weren't complaining when he extended the bush policies (the ones that that got us here....by the way) but the first policy he gets that he wants is already the 'defining moment' and the last straw.

you're right - we will see what's up in 12 months but don't think that people haven't been paying attention to the way the repubs are acting.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18501940)

I just wanted to say I got a kick out of ABC's title for their story on the debate..

"GOP Bickering: Candidates Butt Heads"

The title is of course longer but on he main page it's shorted and looks like they are calling the GOP candidates butt heads.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18501991)

I don't disagree that somewhere in the middle has merit.

I do disagree that people are not against the healthcare bill,but against Obama. Afterall,he did win the election. For whatever reason,he won the job fair and square. And the healthcare reform bill as it should've been would also have merit. Not the bill that was passed. And more importantly the way it was passed. All the talk about transparency became nothing but a joke. Forcing people to buy a product. Adding much staff to the IRS to make sure they do.
While the country is in a severe recession,this administration needed to be focused on one thing. And they didn't do that.

I do give Obama high marks on how he is handling the middle east. He is insisting that the people that know how to win do their jobs.

However,it takes him too long to make a decision. Even if he isn't leading by committee,it appears as if he is.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18501940)

I just wanted to say I got a kick out of ABC's title for their story on the debate..

"GOP Bickering: Candidates Butt Heads"

The title is of course longer but on he main page it's shorted and looks like they are calling the GOP candidates butt heads.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18502220)

yeah it does take too long. 3 years and we're still in the same mess we were in when he got here. but that's probably because he's fighting an uphill battle. after all, he's merely a politician amongst the rest with checked power. ALL of these politicians have personal and/or political agendas, and they do shit to accomplish those agendas, sometimes in spite of whats good for the people. sadly, one of those current agendas it to get obama out of office.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18502243)

But you blamed Bush while he was in power. Now that it's Obama, it's not his fault because he's merely a politician? Double standards much?

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18502268)

Nope, I still blame Bush. No double standard here. :)

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18502243)

But you blamed Bush while he was in power. Now that it's Obama, it's not his fault because he's merely a politician? Double standards much?

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18502294)

you're twisting words. i didn't "blame Bush", nor did i say that obama wasn't at fault

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18502306)

"You" was a general term I used for people that try to make those double standard arguments, like our resident idiot known as bft3k. "It's all Bush's fault and none of Obama's is the standard, idiotic leftist argument."

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18502268)

Nope, I still blame Bush. No double standard here. :)

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18500344)

The problem with all of these GOP candidates is none of them are electable. Most of them have tried to be elected president many times in the past and they weren't electable then nor are they electable today.

The Herman Cain guy is just a nut case and Ron Paul. I mean really? Again? Same with McCain.. where do these guys keep getting campaign money?

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18502404)

You blame the guy that got us here, I don't dwell in the past and blame the guy that has made it worse

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18500062)

If this is the best the right has, it's over.

Obama will eat these guys for lunch!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18502243)

But you blamed Bush while he was in power. Now that it's Obama, it's not his fault because he's merely a politician? Double standards much?

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18502367)

I find it amusing that anyone thinks there is any difference between the two parties. They are both a bunch of war mongering banking owned c*nts.

Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 18502933)

yeah BFT obama is a dead duck. america does not like a pussy for president. all the dems are gonna stay home, no energy. Mitts not gonna scare 'em to the polls. you should rethink everything you stand for & try being a republican for a day. you'll feel much better just caring about yourself instead of those 99% dead enders.

Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 18502933)

yeah BFT obama is a dead duck. america does not like a pussy for president. all the dems are gonna stay home, no energy. Mitts not gonna scare 'em to the polls. you should rethink everything you stand for & try being a republican for a day. you'll feel much better just caring about yourself instead of those 99% dead enders.