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georgeyw 10-19-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18502587)
Perhaps you take some of your own advice? Maybe you are reading it wrong, and reading into it what you want. When a fucking Canadian and a fucking American agree on what this guy was saying, shit you can pretty much say Hell is open for winter season skating.

Yes I am sure he meant you can go and kill unarmed people in Iraq. You are correct, I should have understood that from the video - my bad.

Let me ask you this, when you are as enraged as he was and you are yelling, do you think that every single word that comes out of your mouth would be taken as you intend it?

Anthony 10-19-2011 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18502602)
Yes I am sure he meant you can go and kill unarmed people in Iraq. You are correct, I should have understood that from the video - my bad.

Let me ask you this, when you are as enraged as he was and you are yelling, do you think that every single word that comes out of your mouth would be taken as you intend it?

You have to be dense or intentionally obtuse. Go to Iran or Afghanistan because there's honor in killing people in those countries?

I don't go out on the streets screaming and ranting louder and louder when more cameras are aimed at me. But you carry on making excuses for this guy and your 99 percent. Bunch of whiney drama queens that won't change a damn thing.

PornoMonster 10-19-2011 06:28 PM

Someone needs a hug!

astronaut x 10-19-2011 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18502593)
Luckily for you, our paths will never cross. You cant afford to be anywhere I am.
You're one of this world's mindless, faceless lemmings.
A nothing. A failure.
Of course you hate me as I am your opposite.
I'd laugh in your face and tell you this in person but I simply dont don't mingle with the bottom of society.:thumbsup

I know blowing smoke up your own ass does it for you. Ive been watching you do it for years.

Ive made millions in this business since 96. I don't need your approval to reassure me how successful I am.

I've run into you a million times, parties, shows, elevators. I would never do business with you. EVER. And yes sir you have approached me and tried to do business with me, but you certainly do not come off as a likeable person or anyone I would feel comfortable doing business with, so the cold shoulder wasn't because I didn't know who you were. It was because I knew who you were. You might think you have a slick game of talking people out of their money, but I could see a piece of shit a mile away.

And trust me when i say this.... your name has come up around other players in the industry over the last 10 years or so, and I can assure you, nobody has ever had anything nice to say about you. they may be hush hush on this board and others, but in private, you are a fucking joke. Your program is a joke. In fact, in this day and age, it looks completely worthless. No, Im seriuos. There is zero substance to your program or any site in it. I wouldn't touch your site or promote your gold shit, because it is exactly that. Worthless shit. Gold turds? Are you kidding me? What a fucking joke.

So keep telling yourself (and everybody else, a million times) how awesome you are.

Maybe you should run for president. I mean you think your such a likeable guy. LOL

You are fucking worthless douchebag. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

pornmasta 10-19-2011 11:30 PM


topsiteking 10-19-2011 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18502301)
You can see the woman hitting or at least attempting to hit the police officer in the face first.

Oh,well that makes it okay...
:disgust

drmadcat 10-19-2011 11:41 PM

i just watched the whole fucking video and nobody had a fight right fucking wast of my time
i vote ban

seeandsee 10-20-2011 12:50 AM

like a broken record

sambucas 10-20-2011 01:01 AM

I support the OWS idea and everything but he shouts "I've been to iraq for 14 months" and "there is no honor in harming unarmed civilians" so he doesn't make any sense.

12clicks 10-20-2011 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 18503087)
I know blowing smoke up your own ass does it for you. Ive been watching you do it for years.

Ive made millions in this business since 96. I don't need your approval to reassure me how successful I am.

I've run into you a million times, parties, shows, elevators. I would never do business with you. EVER. And yes sir you have approached me and tried to do business with me, but you certainly do not come off as a likeable person or anyone I would feel comfortable doing business with, so the cold shoulder wasn't because I didn't know who you were. It was because I knew who you were. You might think you have a slick game of talking people out of their money, but I could see a piece of shit a mile away.

And trust me when i say this.... your name has come up around other players in the industry over the last 10 years or so, and I can assure you, nobody has ever had anything nice to say about you. they may be hush hush on this board and others, but in private, you are a fucking joke. Your program is a joke. In fact, in this day and age, it looks completely worthless. No, Im seriuos. There is zero substance to your program or any site in it. I wouldn't touch your site or promote your gold shit, because it is exactly that. Worthless shit. Gold turds? Are you kidding me? What a fucking joke.

So keep telling yourself (and everybody else, a million times) how awesome you are.

Maybe you should run for president. I mean you think your such a likeable guy. LOL

You are fucking worthless douchebag. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Ahahaha, yes yes, son. Yet another anon with a 2011 join date who's made millions in my business.
You do get extra credit for originality for pretending to know "players" even more for pretending they bad mouth me.:1orglaugh

You know what would REALLY put me in my place?
Telling us all which ballet you are.:1orglaugh
I mean, you've been to shows, been in elevators, I'm sure we'd remember a player like you!


Hahaha, these trolls sure do like to spew bitterness at their betters when the come home from work.

12clicks 10-20-2011 07:28 AM

where's my bitter little troll "astronaut x" today during normal business hours?
look what people were just dying to show me, little troll:
http://www.12clicks.com/douche_bag.jpg

you made a little money when things were easy, blew it on a failed 3rd party billed rev-share program, and now come back anon to take out your tiny dick and try to pee pee up at your betters.

its funny watching has been trolls lash out at their betters.
thanks for the laugh, Chris:1orglaugh

CIVMatt 10-20-2011 07:55 AM

I think its disgraceful and a slap in the face of any Marine to be wearing his ribbons like that.

He's apparently out of service and not in IRR so he can do whatever he pleases honestly, I dont so much mind him wearing a cami top with his name on it, however the ribbons are a huge no no and he should know better.

DaddyHalbucks 10-20-2011 07:57 AM

I don't see any connection to Iraq. His was an emotional argument, not a rational one. He just kept repeating a few emotionally charged statements, and was not making alot of sense.

Rochard 10-20-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18502559)
Oh I see what you're saying. :)

I wasn't specifying "marines" and never did. I said that yeah you can never count out the govt. sending in the military against their own citizens. 'Cause they will and they will convince whomever it is that they are doing the "right thing" (just like when the national guard killed the students at Kent State who were protesting the Vietnam War)

Your confusing a few things here.

I believe (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) the US Military, generally speaking, cannot be called up against US citizens. (Although I'm sure there are some wacked out laws about martial law that gives the military a lot of power). However, this is not the same at the state level. At Kent State it wasn't the "National Guard" but instead the "Ohio National Guard". The difference is staggering. The state national guard(s) takes orders from the governor, not the US government.

In other words, the President cannot send in the Marines to deal with a protest in NYC, but the Governor of NY can in fact send in the NY National Guard.

Rochard 10-20-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 18503867)
I think its disgraceful and a slap in the face of any Marine to be wearing his ribbons like that.

He's apparently out of service and not in IRR so he can do whatever he pleases honestly, I dont so much mind him wearing a cami top with his name on it, however the ribbons are a huge no no and he should know better.

This is what I'm getting at. He should know better.

When I left the military, I sold my uniforms on the way out the door. I never had any plans on wearing them again, so there was no sense keeping them.

12clicks 10-20-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18503803)
where's my bitter little troll "astronaut x" today during normal business hours?
look what people were just dying to show me, little troll:
http://www.12clicks.com/douche_bag.jpg

you made a little money when things were easy, blew it on a failed 3rd party billed rev-share program, and now come back anon to take out your tiny dick and try to pee pee up at your betters.

its funny watching has been trolls lash out at their betters.
thanks for the laugh, Chris:1orglaugh

shit!
someone is home from the day job and pissed that he's no longer anon.

man, it sucks to be unanon, eh chris?:1orglaugh

Robbie 10-20-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18504170)
Your confusing a few things here.
The state national guard(s) takes orders from the governor, not the US government.

I thought that all the "National Guard" were state national guards? Is that wrong? Is there some kind of Federal National Guard?

And if not, and you're sure that the state national guard can't take orders from the U.S. govt., then what were all those National Guard doing in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Remember when Katrina happened...and on the news there were politicians criticizing the Iraq war and saying that the reason that Louisiana didn't have enough National Guard was because they were all in Iraq.

What's the real story then? I have never heard of a Federal National Guard before. Everyone I ever knew was in a State National Guard. Educate me on this. :)

Robbie 10-20-2011 01:44 PM

Okay I found the answer at nationalguard.com :
"The Guard is a military branch that serves BOTH state and federal governments"

So they ARE part of the military.

Rochard 10-20-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18504746)
I thought that all the "National Guard" were state national guards? Is that wrong? Is there some kind of Federal National Guard?

And if not, and you're sure that the state national guard can't take orders from the U.S. govt., then what were all those National Guard doing in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Remember when Katrina happened...and on the news there were politicians criticizing the Iraq war and saying that the reason that Louisiana didn't have enough National Guard was because they were all in Iraq.

What's the real story then? I have never heard of a Federal National Guard before. Everyone I ever knew was in a State National Guard. Educate me on this. :)

It's a little bit of both really.

Quote:

The state National Guard is divided into units stationed in each of the 50 states and US territories, and operates under their respective state governor or territorial adjutant general. The National Guard may be called up for active duty by state governors or territorial adjutant general to help respond to domestic emergencies and disasters, such as hurricanes, floods, and earthquakes.

The National Guard of the United States is administered by the National Guard Bureau, which is a joint activity under the Department of Defense.
Seems it takes orders from both the governor or by the DOD.

Robbie 10-20-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18504774)
It's a little bit of both really.

Seems it takes orders from both the governor or by the DOD.

Kinda confusing in a way. But I guess that explains how and why they got sent to the latest wars.

SomeCreep 10-20-2011 05:38 PM

Seriously, that nigga got nothing better to do?

ThunderBalls 10-20-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 18505154)
Seriously, that nigga got nothing better to do?


Says the guy who has done nothing but post on GFY for the past 9 years.

Phoenix 10-20-2011 06:20 PM

just a question.
but how many of the Marines here in this thread served in a war zone?

V_RocKs 10-21-2011 01:11 AM

Fuck the po-lease!

12clicks 10-21-2011 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18505239)
just a question.
but how many of the Marines here in this thread served in a war zone?

so you're implying that if you served, you can shout at police and act like you belong in a mental ward and we should all just give him a thumbs up?

Phoenix 10-21-2011 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18506210)
so you're implying that if you served, you can shout at police and act like you belong in a mental ward and we should all just give him a thumbs up?

i'm implying that he has earned the right to wear his uniform and badges wherever he wants.

something that amuses me is that you seem to think you are on the side of the bank/oil/military cartels. Who do you think will be paying more in taxes and other government grabs when the time to pay for the party comes? the so called losers of OWS? have a look in the mirror bud..it is you...it is minte...it is all small business owners. Why don't you want to realize those so called losers, are doing your job for you? Instead of thinking up an awesome reply like( okay kid) or something like that. Why not go and offer some of your supreme leaderhship to the OWS?

You keep saying how smart and wise you are, go on down and help these people get a better message out. They surely need it.


anyway, it is funny to me.
no need to reply Ron...i already know what you will say.

ContentSHOOTER 10-21-2011 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18502009)
deranged lunatic shouting about brutality to a bunch of cops standing perfectly still.
he needs meds.

WOW!!! You know it all don't you 12clucks:1orglaugh

adultchatpay 10-21-2011 07:06 AM

"If you wanna fight, go to Iraq and Afghanistan"
- Sgt. Shamar Thomas

12clicks 10-21-2011 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18506243)
i'm implying that he has earned the right to wear his uniform and badges wherever he wants.

something that amuses me is that you seem to think you are on the side of the bank/oil/military cartels. Who do you think will be paying more in taxes and other government grabs when the time to pay for the party comes? the so called losers of OWS? have a look in the mirror bud..it is you...it is minte...it is all small business owners. Why don't you want to realize those so called losers, are doing your job for you? Instead of thinking up an awesome reply like( okay kid) or something like that. Why not go and offer some of your supreme leaderhship to the OWS?

You keep saying how smart and wise you are, go on down and help these people get a better message out. They surely need it.


anyway, it is funny to me.
no need to reply Ron...i already know what you will say.

Brad, I thought you and I were past this bitterness and could have a normal conversation.
let me know.
In the mean time, I've seen what the protesters want. They want their college loans forgiven (which one of your cartels is responsible for that again?)
They want wealth equity without ever having worked a hard day in their life (which one of your cartels is responsible for that again?)
They want taxes raise on the successful even though most of them don't pay taxes (which one of your cartels is responsible for that again?)

Its YOU who are confused about who needs to be supported. The tea party is for smaller government, lower taxes, and fiscal responsibility.
That, my friend, is what Minte and I support. I understand that you support something else. Its just that that something else can't be logically explained.

As far as the clown in the uniform goes, he's embarrassing the uniform. If you side with that clown, so be it. I choose a different sort.

12clicks 10-21-2011 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ContentSHOOTER (Post 18506268)
WOW!!! You know it all don't you 12clucks:1orglaugh

compared to you and this crowd?
Yes.
Yes I do.


who are you again?

Phoenix 10-21-2011 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18506304)
Brad, I thought you and I were past this bitterness and could have a normal conversation.
let me know.
In the mean time, I've seen what the protesters want. They want their college loans forgiven (which one of your cartels is responsible for that again?)
They want wealth equity without ever having worked a hard day in their life (which one of your cartels is responsible for that again?)
They want taxes raise on the successful even though most of them don't pay taxes (which one of your cartels is responsible for that again?)

Its YOU who are confused about who needs to be supported. The tea party is for smaller government, lower taxes, and fiscal responsibility.
That, my friend, is what Minte and I support. I understand that you support something else. Its just that that something else can't be logically explained.

As far as the clown in the uniform goes, he's embarrassing the uniform. If you side with that clown, so be it. I choose a different sort.

no bitterness in my post.
and you are right..i dont support their demand for free loans, etc.
however i do agree that the bailouts to massive banking cartels needs to stop.
however it is already too late.
that clown in uniform as you call him is at least doing something.

let me rephrase....why dont you go and help these OWS people to change their arguments into something a little more feasible?

tony286 10-21-2011 07:38 AM

funny didnt see any handout signs. What I saw was alot of signs looking for jobs. To me thats people wanting to work not get a hand out.

12clicks 10-21-2011 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18506341)
no bitterness in my post.
and you are right..i dont support their demand for free loans, etc.
however i do agree that the bailouts to massive banking cartels needs to stop.
however it is already too late.
that clown in uniform as you call him is at least doing something.

let me rephrase....why dont you go and help these OWS people to change their arguments into something a little more feasible?

because I support the tea party.
THEY too are not in favor of governmental interference in the economy.
Listen, I thought the bank bailouts were wrong too. Same with chrysler and gm.
The government had NO business doing it just like they have no business bailing out the OWS crowd.

Khesser 10-21-2011 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18502087)
How did his mom and dad managed to serve in Iraq and Afghanistan? he looks about 30-tish so his mom is at least 43. I smell BS

That is exactly what I was thinking. Bless this guy's heart for serving his country, but it looked like he was wanting a confrontation with the cops and had the cameras there to record it. This dude has some anger issues.

He was looking for his 15 minutes of fame and he got it.

tony286 10-21-2011 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Khesser (Post 18506368)
That is exactly what I was thinking. Bless this guy's heart for serving his country, but it looked like he was wanting a confrontation with the cops and had the cameras there to record it. This dude has some anger issues.

He was looking for his 15 minutes of fame and he got it.

They both served 20 yrs each.

Anthony 10-21-2011 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18506348)
funny didnt see any handout signs. What I saw was alot of signs looking for jobs. To me thats people wanting to work not get a hand out.


SomeCreep 10-21-2011 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 18505154)
Seriously, that nigga got nothing better to do?

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 18505229)
Says the guy who has done nothing but post on GFY for the past 9 years.

Says the guy who has done nothing but post on GFY for the past 10 years.

tony286 10-21-2011 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18506385)

One guy and that's the whole group? When that was said about the tea party it was no no. Too funny.

Anthony 10-21-2011 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18506394)
One guy and that's the whole group? When that was said about the tea party it was no no. Too funny.

I didn't know you wanted me to do your research for you. Just one should be enough to show you that you were wrong about not seeing anyone wanting hand outs.

12clicks 10-21-2011 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18506385)

Ant! don't confuse them with facts. They already know "the truth" without seeing any of this.:winkwink:

Phoenix 10-21-2011 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18506406)
I didn't know you wanted me to do your research for you. Just one should be enough to show you that you were wrong about not seeing anyone wanting hand outs.

yeah it would be nice to be able to trim out the people begging for a free ride in life.

in every movement there are fringe groups, hopefully a better platform emerges from the OWS movement or else it is doomed to failure.

they need real leadership right now

12clicks 10-21-2011 08:06 AM

http://www2.journalnow.com/mgmedia/i...a1009protest3/

12clicks 10-21-2011 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18506425)
yeah it would be nice to be able to trim out the people begging for a free ride in life.

in every movement there are fringe groups, hopefully a better platform emerges from the OWS movement or else it is doomed to failure.

they need real leadership right now

what is it you don't like about the tea party?

12clicks 10-21-2011 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18506426)

does this count as 2 or three then, tony?

12clicks 10-21-2011 08:13 AM

and this dipshit (a former teacher) is too stupid to realize that she *is* part of the top 20%
http://www2.journalnow.com/mgmedia/i...a1009protest1/

12clicks 10-21-2011 08:14 AM

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls...qn42o1_500.jpg

solid platform

12clicks 10-21-2011 08:16 AM

thats it, lets not buy anything. that will get you a job!

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/in...7_06073410.jpg

Anthony 10-21-2011 08:20 AM

It's been my contention a lot of the protestors are there to be edgy and cool. Some to run away from reality.

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Florida Mother Leaves Husband and Kids to Join Protest

By KEVIN FASICK and BOB FREDERICKS

Last Updated: 8:04 AM, October 21, 2011


A married mother of four from Florida ditched her family to become part of the raggedy mob in Zuccotti Park -- keeping the park clean by day and keeping herself warm at night with the help of a young waiter from Brooklyn.

“I’m not planning on going home,” an unapologetic Stacey Hessler, 38, told The Post yesterday.

“I have no idea what the future holds, but I’m here indefinitely. Forever,” said Hessler, whose home in DeLand sits 911 miles from the tarp she’s been sleeping under.

Hessler -- who ironically is married to a banker -- arrived 12 days ago and planned to stay for a week, but changed her plans after cozying up to some like-minded radicals, including Rami Shamir, 30, a waiter at a French bistro in Cobble Hill, Brooklyn.

Yesterday was a typical day for the pair, who woke up at 8 a.m. on their little patch of paving stone near the communal kitchen and dashed off to Trinity Church to wash up.

Hessler emerged an hour later, her brown hair in dreadlocks, wearing a T-shirt depicting Han Solo and Princess Leia kissing, and bearing the slogan “Make Love Not War.”

She got coffee and a granola bar from the protest kitchen before sorting laundry for two hours.

The unemployed Long Island native compared her decision to abandon her family to Americans serving in the armed forces.

“Military people leave their families all the time, so why should I feel bad?” a defiant Hessler said. “I’m fighting for a better world.”

She said she had been following the movement on Facebook, and the more she learned, the more obsessed she became with joining the demonstrators.

At around 11 a.m. yesterday, Hessler moved from laundry duty to park cleanup -- a four-hour detail from which she broke just once to give a troubled protester a hug at the “empathy table.” She also found time for a meditation session later in the day.

Hessler has spoken with her family -- husband Curtiss, 42; son Peyton, 17; and daughters Kennedy 15, Sullivan, 13, and Veda, 7 -- just three times since leaving them. “Friends are taking care of them,” she said.

Not everyone has supported her decision. “My mother told me I was being very selfish,” she admitted.

And her husband, a former Bank of America financial adviser who now works at a local Florida bank, is perplexed. “He says he’s working for ‘the Man,’ and I’m fighting against him,” she said.

After finishing her morning routine and afternoon chores yesterday, Hessler spent the evening attending organizer meetings and helping fellow protesters find sleeping spots.

Hessler herself bedded down on an air mattress at 12:28 a.m., ready to do it all over again today.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...jE39dfRDdUZ1sM

Phoenix 10-21-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18506437)
what is it you don't like about the tea party?

I am not against the Tea party. I think they need to kick Sarah Palin out of it..lol
They seem to be being used slightly by people though now. As in Sarah Palin..Michelle Bachmann etc...i could be wrong, i only slightly pay attention to american politics. However it seems to me that the Tea Party is in danger of becoming just a platform to use for attention.

Their main goals are pretty good though...although some are vague.
Identify constitutionality of every new law
Reject emissions trading
Demand a balanced federal budget
Simplify the tax system
Audit federal government agencies for waste and constitutionality
Limit annual growth in federal spending
Repeal the healthcare legislation passed on March 23, 2010
Pass an 'All-of-the-Above' Energy Policy
Reduce Earmarks
Reduce Taxes


Although, i also think it would be a much nicer world to live in if we could just nationalize one thing to pay for healthcare. Say power plants, nuclear. Fuck those guys..lol
As well id like to see most of the SEC fired immediately, and then slowly, replace everyone there.

12clicks 10-21-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18506463)
I am not against the Tea party. I think they need to kick Sarah Palin out of it..lol
They seem to be being used slightly by people though now. As in Sarah Palin..Michelle Bachmann etc...i could be wrong, i only slightly pay attention to american politics. However it seems to me that the Tea Party is in danger of becoming just a platform to use for attention.

Their main goals are pretty good though...although some are vague.
Identify constitutionality of every new law
Reject emissions trading
Demand a balanced federal budget
Simplify the tax system
Audit federal government agencies for waste and constitutionality
Limit annual growth in federal spending
Repeal the healthcare legislation passed on March 23, 2010
Pass an 'All-of-the-Above' Energy Policy
Reduce Earmarks
Reduce Taxes


Although, i also think it would be a much nicer world to live in if we could just nationalize one thing to pay for healthcare. Say power plants, nuclear. Fuck those guys..lol
As well id like to see most of the SEC fired immediately, and then slowly, replace everyone there.

see, I know what you mean about bachman and palin but look at the way more serious tea party members like paul ryan and marco rubio, and jim demint operate.
They're serious guys with serious ideas.


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