GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Gadaffi has been killed!! (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1042520)

sambucas 10-20-2011 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18503739)
I was not promoting democracy, but what are better options than democracy? I am honestly asking and not trying to be a dick, because I have no idea what other governments in the world are working better than democratic systems.

What about dictatorship? I'm not joking actually. Dictatorship or democratic dictatorship is the best in my opinion. Libya was a dictatorship for the last 30 or so years, they had tremendous success, because one man was responsible for everything. Russia has a sort of dictatorship now and look how well we are doing comparing to 10 years ago. Is it really that good to listen to all opinions especially now that everyone has one? Democracy is good when you don't want to go anywhere, if you need progress you need dictatorship.

Kenny B! 10-20-2011 07:23 AM

bullshit he's alive and well doing roasts on comedy central...
http://ph.cdn.photos.upi.com/collect...lifornia_2.jpg

HomerSimpson 10-20-2011 07:35 AM

Watch out people of Libya
here come demo(n)cracy

Shotsie 10-20-2011 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18503766)

Yeah, random youtube videos created by anonymous users, overlaid with drum and bass soundtracks are always a credible source of information.



We live in the information age, it doesn't take long to gather some semblance of truth on the situation. Vice actually went to Libya and did a pretty good gonzo documentary on the whole situation:

http://www.vice.com/vice-news/the-re...ya-full-length


The thing is the West was better off with brutal dictators like Gadaffi in power. Now what? A stable democratic successor regime? An Islamic government? A combination of the two? Or a failed state? The last option probably is the most likely, which means either a long-term Western occupation ? which would spur an Islamist insurgency ? or a quick Western get-the-fuck-out which would leave Libya to the best organized portion of the resistance, the Islamists. (NB: Hows that for a lose-lose situation?)


Both of these bad options are in the future and so remain avoidable. But the West already has suffered an enormous loss by choosing to try to destroy Gaddafi?s regime, which the Wikileaks? documents show was an anchor of the West?s counter-al-Qaeda efforts in the Maghreb.

wehateporn 10-20-2011 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18503838)
Yeah, random youtube videos created by anonymous users, overlaid with drum and bass soundtracks are always a credible source of information.

I find these videos a good way to get people to pay attention, especially people who wouldn't normally spend time reading documents that I link to, however if one opens the video on YouTube there are many links posted with it. On a personal level I was already aware of everything mentioned in the video beforehand

-----------------------
Some of what I have found out about Libya & Muammar Al Qaddafi since the brutal, illegal invasion of Libya by Rothschild owned NATO forces.

Not only have I learnt that Qaddafi is NOT a dictator (he stood down after setting up direct democracy) but his people have something to teach us about freedom & independence!

I ask all reading this to do whatever they can to oppose the New World Order, NATO, the UN & our corrupt politicians.

Please read Qaddafi's Green Book. Download link:

http://911-truth.net/other-books/Mua...n-Book-Eng.pdf

The draft UN report on human rights in Libya before the NATO bombings & invasion.

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies...-HRC-16-15.pdf

Library Of Congress Country Study Of Libya
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...d(DOCID+ly0067)

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...d(DOCID+ly0069)

http://windowstorussia.com/from-russ...-president-of-...

Sherrie's blogspot.
http://sherriequestioningall.blogspo...ibya-watch-thi...

Article by David Rothscum.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle27956.htm

Landdestroyer is another great blog.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/20...-us-state.html

Gagnauga is an Icelandic blog. I have posted the translated link. Please follow.
http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...ttp://gagnauga...

Lizzie Phelan, Independent journalist
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col...ree_Tripoli_do...

http://www.voltairenet.org/Witnessin...sition-to-fear

Top 10 Myths In The War Against Libya
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/08/...-war-against-l...

Another truth Blog. Please support them by following.
http://newsfromatlantis.blogspot.com...-freedom-in-li...

Northwestnationalists blogspot.
http://northwestnationalists.blogspo...t-mad-or-dicta...

The Ones Killing Civilians is NATO
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col...illing_nato-0/
DJOsiris Blog
http://djosiris.blogspot.com/search?...A09%3A00-07%3A...

The real reason for NATO attacking Libya
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O35_Ai6EsMU

http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.com/20...affidavit.html

NATO Crimes & Mass Media lies exposed
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3hDejIHc1XI

Libyan Women speak about Gaddafi.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_5EpvO47CUE

Media Lies about Libya & Gaddafi.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=t_ku0rLVdWg

Gaddafi's speech to Libya & the World 1st July 2011 (1/2)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q0XsF03fNM4

Gaddafi's speech 1st July 2011 (2/2)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lEL76Ed0ne4

NATO leaders guilty under US code of providing material support to terrorists by Tony Cartalucci
http://www.infowars.com/nato-leaders...oviding-materi...

Susan Lindauer
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/06...imes-in-libya/

-----------------------

L-Pink 10-20-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18503779)
What about dictatorship? I'm not joking actually. Dictatorship or democratic dictatorship is the best in my opinion. Libya was a dictatorship for the last 30 or so years, they had tremendous success, because one man was responsible for everything. Russia has a sort of dictatorship now and look how well we are doing comparing to 10 years ago. Is it really that good to listen to all opinions especially now that everyone has one? Democracy is good when you don't want to go anywhere, if you need progress you need dictatorship.

There's a lot of truth to what you are saying.

One problem with "modern" democracy is that people vote for their own selfish self interest not what's good for the country as a whole.

.

Shotsie 10-20-2011 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18503845)
I find these videos a good way to get people to pay attention, especially people who wouldn't normally spend time reading documents that I link to, however if one opens the video on YouTube there are many links posted with it. On a personal level I was already aware of everything mentioned in the video beforehand

-----------------------
Some of what I have found out about Libya & Muammar Al Qaddafi since the brutal, illegal invasion of Libya by Rothschild owned NATO forces.

Not only have I learnt that Qaddafi is NOT a dictator (he stood down after setting up direct democracy) but his people have something to teach us about freedom

Now there is no doubt that some of Gaddafi?s forces are hired guns from outside Libya, but it seems increasingly clear that he has had a significant number of Libyans who are willing to fight to the death for him. Given this truism ? and the fight-to-the-death approach of pro-Gaddafi forces ? it seems that our policymakers have chosen sides in Libya between groups of Libyans, and not between all democracy-loving Libyans and Gaddafi, his sons, and some non-Libyan mercenaries. But don't believe for a second that Gadaffi wasn't a brutal dictator, and that this is all some elaborate conspiracy designed by NATO to topple the regime. The uprising wasn't orchestrated by Western powers we just chose sides. Watch that Vice documentary and then tell me there is no significant opposition to Gadaffi's regime.

wehateporn 10-20-2011 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18503929)
Now there is no doubt that some of Gaddafi?s forces are hired guns from outside Libya, but it seems increasingly clear that he has had a significant number of Libyans who are willing to fight to the death for him. Given this truism ? and the fight-to-the-death approach of pro-Gaddafi forces ? it seems that our policymakers have chosen sides in Libya between groups of Libyans, and not between all democracy-loving Libyans and Gaddafi, his sons, and some non-Libyan mercenaries. But don't believe for a second that Gadaffi wasn't a brutal dictator, and that this is all some elaborate conspiracy designed by NATO to topple the regime. The uprising wasn't orchestrated by Western powers we just chose sides. Watch that Vice documentary and then tell me there is no significant opposition to Gadaffi's regime.

I will watch the documentary and check it out in the next few days :thumbsup

My issues would be the evidence that the mainstream news were using footage from film studios with actors pretending to be Libyans and also the 1000's of fake YouTube/Twitter accounts that suddenly appeared out of the blue telling nasty stories, despite the fact that YouTube was blocked in Libya.


The BBC thinks it's normal for Libyan's to be waving Indian flags


seeandsee 10-20-2011 09:14 AM

here we go again

body probably last seen under the sea

Harmon 10-20-2011 09:16 AM

fifty dead who's?

rogueteens 10-20-2011 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18503620)
That's right, a big LOL over the "Libyan people"!

European parents, are your children tired of Afghani H? Expect a new sort of heroin "Libyan people" soon on your streets and public schools near you. Coming straight from once a richest country in Africa - Libya!

London ... http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image..._013189867.jpg

_Richard_ 10-20-2011 09:18 AM

on to the genocide

rogueteens 10-20-2011 09:27 AM

For all of the bad things Gadaffi did, Lybia was still one of the most "advanced" middle eastern countries in regards to many things such as womens rights and was also one of the more "western" counties in its outlook. Already there have been reports that many areas are now becoming more extreme muslim. Lybia could well become an own goal for human rights.

directfiesta 10-20-2011 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 18504131)
For all of the bad things Gadaffi did, Lybia was still one of the most "advanced" middle eastern countries in regards to many things such as womens rights and was also one of the more "western" counties in its outlook. Already there have been reports that many areas are now becoming more extreme muslim. Lybia could well become an own goal for human rights.

Perfect ....

Mission Accomplished ....

Now lets exploit their oil and lend them tons of money thru the World Bank so they choke on the debt ...

Gotta love that smell of western democracy ...

just a punk 10-20-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 18504131)
For all of the bad things Gadaffi did, Lybia was still one of the most "advanced" middle eastern countries in regards to many things such as womens rights and was also one of the more "western" counties in its outlook. Already there have been reports that many areas are now becoming more extreme muslim. Lybia could well become an own goal for human rights.

Libya will become a totalitarian Muslim country now. And yes, it will be the US-friendly one like Saudi Arabia because they have a lot of... try to guess :)

femdomdestiny 10-20-2011 09:49 AM

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2186rank.html

porno jew 10-20-2011 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 18504131)
For all of the bad things Gadaffi did, Lybia was still one of the most "advanced" middle eastern countries in regards to many things such as womens rights and was also one of the more "western" counties in its outlook. Already there have been reports that many areas are now becoming more extreme muslim. Lybia could well become an own goal for human rights.

is that really true? i know that's the regular anti-imperialist line, but is it really true? doubtful. that place was a dismal shithole run by a dictator who enriched his family at the expense of the country.

Zoxxa 10-20-2011 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18503779)
What about dictatorship? I'm not joking actually. Dictatorship or democratic dictatorship is the best in my opinion. Libya was a dictatorship for the last 30 or so years, they had tremendous success, because one man was responsible for everything. Russia has a sort of dictatorship now and look how well we are doing comparing to 10 years ago. Is it really that good to listen to all opinions especially now that everyone has one? Democracy is good when you don't want to go anywhere, if you need progress you need dictatorship.

I could agree with that.

Democracy to a point then sounds like "Design by committee" in the business world.

"The defining characteristics of "design by committee" are needless complexity, internal inconsistency, logical flaws, banality, and the lack of a unifying vision."

just a punk 10-20-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18503661)
I love Russians with holier-than-thou attitudes posting police state comments :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

.

It looks like you are a big expert on Russia, so you will be able to understand what this song is about:


SGS 10-20-2011 02:00 PM

We have the same car as Gadaffi has (had?) :)

Coup 10-20-2011 02:20 PM

Hey, that's excellent. I was just thinking to myself the other day that the world needed a new Theocracy. Dreams really do come true sometimes. :)


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:52 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc