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$5 submissions 10-21-2011 01:58 PM

Nice win win situation.

Unfortunately, the solar components market is MONOPOLIZED here in the Philippines. The company who cornered that market actually want the REST of the economy to subsidize them...to the tune of Billions of pesos per year AND higher electricity bills. LOSE / LOSE / WIN :(

MrMaxwell 10-23-2011 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Due (Post 18507357)
I was planning on getting solar panels but sell back 100% of the production if that's possible and then buy the cheap polluting electricity.



That is a really good idea!!

I think that you would have to get around that thing about "If you produce more than you use, they have to buy yours at the same price" thing

And that would be pretty easy

Split the property into two residences or some kind of a thing

MrBottomTooth 10-23-2011 08:24 PM

The government was offering them up here in Canada as well. Paying for the installation yourself and relying on the government to make sure they keep paying you the ridiculous amount they promised for they hydro generated for 20 years seemed a bit sketchy, so I just leased the necessary space on my land to someone else who is responsible for paying for the panel and dealing with collecting the hydro money.

I don't get to use any of the hydro generated, but they just send me a cheque for $500 every 4 months for 20 years. Seemed like a no brainer since I had a huge empty hayfield to stick the panel in. I don't think I would want them installed on my roof though. What if you need to repair your roof?

Jakez 10-23-2011 08:29 PM

Sort of off topic sorry, but is it true we could cover a desert with panels and power the entire country for free?

TheDoc 10-23-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18510962)
Sort of off topic sorry, but is it true we could cover a desert with panels and power the entire country for free?

Here ya go... Jump to about 65 seconds....


96ukssob 10-23-2011 08:43 PM

they pay to install and you pay them until they decide to jack up the costs and then when you cancel, you have to pay HUGE fees to have them removed :2 cents:

Jakez 10-23-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18510979)
Here ya go... Jump to about 65 seconds....


Cool idea, but a little far fetched, and where I'm at they will work on a section of road for years upon years, I can't imagine what it'd be like waiting for them to install glass roads.

Covering a desert with the best panels we have now (and upgrade them down the line) can be done right away.

MrMaxwell 10-23-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18510979)
Here ya go... Jump to about 65 seconds....


THAT is going to change the game, for sure, if it is ever affordable enough.. As an example, instead of having a roof full of ugly panels, you could have a really cool looking driveway...

MrMaxwell 10-23-2011 08:53 PM

By affordable, I mean, if it pays for itself quickly enough

Ron Bennett 10-23-2011 08:56 PM

Another potential expense to consider are taxes ...

* Solar panels can increase property assessment resulting in higher property tax.

* And potentially, in the future, taxes on solar installations based on power production / size of the array.

Ron

Choker 10-23-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18506314)
A 3k sq foot house costs roughly $8-15k to have solar installed.... divide that over 5 years and it's cheaper than your electric bill is monthly, meaning it instantly starts returning on the investment, without a single tax break - and it instantly increase the value of your house - paying for it again when you sell the house.

The buy back is a bonus, you don't need it to get a return on your investment.

It helps States to get people on Solar, the tax benefit helps us in the long run more than it hurts... they're helping resupply the very over used power grids and they take none off of it, decreasing the strain on it.

Your estimates sound like they are direct from the manufacturer. The real cost is double what you quote. 8k is not gonna get enough solar panels to power a mobile home, let alone a 3k square foot house.

Jakez 10-23-2011 09:16 PM

Is it even possible to fully power your house on solar panels installed on the average sized suburban property?

Choker 10-23-2011 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18511038)
Is it even possible to fully power your house on solar panels installed on the average sized suburban property?

No it's not. People brag about "selling" thier power back to the power company. What they forget to tell you is that in most situations for maybe 1 or 2 hours a day during the brightest time do they generate more than they consume. The rest of the time they are buying some if not all from the grid. Nighttime 100% from the grid. I have spent a lot on solar and use it for backup purposes. It's still far cheaper to use grid power than solar. I hope this changes soon but for now solar is not worth it, even with the rebates.

TheDoc 10-23-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18511038)
Is it even possible to fully power your house on solar panels installed on the average sized suburban property?

Depending on your location, ie: sunlight... yes, without question.

Jakez 10-23-2011 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18511156)
Depending on your location, ie: sunlight... yes, without question.

Well both me and Choker live in Orlando (plenty of sunlight) and he has experience and says no, not even close.. I'd have to agree with him or else I'd see them all over the place and not on just a few random (suckers) houses here and there.

TheDoc 10-23-2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18511032)
Your estimates sound like they are direct from the manufacturer. The real cost is double what you quote. 8k is not gonna get enough solar panels to power a mobile home, let alone a 3k square foot house.

Yeah, that's why I have a range, 8-15k, and if you double 8k, you get 16k, so I pretty much doubled it.

Costs depends on what your power needs are, if you use a lot or get little sunlight, it's going to cost a lot more in panels and labor, and that can be way more than double.

You can have solar and still use power, just pay a reduced bill... some people only get enough panels to power the house without heavy use, no hot-tubs, or anything extra really. Even if you only got 1 panel, it's a reduction in your cost.

So it can be even less than $8k.

TheDoc 10-23-2011 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18511163)
Well both me and Choker live in Orlando (plenty of sunlight) and he has experience and says no, not even close.. I'd have to agree with him or else I'd see them all over the place and not on just a few random (suckers) houses here and there.

Well he's incorrect.... unless he's meaning you can't do solar at night, but then - come on.

The power companies buy from you during the day and you buy from them at night, at a reduced rate, you win... if you happen to need power and more than you put in, then no big deal you get a reduce bill then.

crockett 10-24-2011 03:36 AM

This site has been around quite some time and gives pretty detailed info on what they produce per month.

http://www.solarhouse.com/

I think if you have the roof space then it's likely easily enough to produce enough power. The problem is who the hell would want to deal with a 20 year contract via some rental plan.

cooldude7 10-24-2011 03:56 AM

sorry for offtopic.,
but is this site has
http://www.vivintsolar.com/

video in html5 or something like that ??

Chris 10-24-2011 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18510987)
they pay to install and you pay them until they decide to jack up the costs and then when you cancel, you have to pay HUGE fees to have them removed :2 cents:

the contract states that they can not increase more than a total of 3.something % over the 20 years ..

grumpy 10-24-2011 05:12 AM

The best way to compare the value of two solar cells is to measure the dollars/watt ratio. The current best deals on solar cells is about $4.30 per watt. For a 50 watt solar panel, your total cost will be about $215. Keep this in mind when asesssing the cost and purchasing solar cells and panels.

devilspost 10-24-2011 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 18511425)
The current best deals on solar cells is about $4.30 per watt.

http://www.sunelec.com/ $1.34 /W

I predict solar modules prices will be quoted by the Chinese at Solar Power Int., In Dallas from the 16th to the 21st as follows: Grade A 85¢, Grade B (cosmetics) 50¢/Watt.

Barefootsies 10-26-2011 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18510990)
Cool idea, but a little far fetched, and where I'm at they will work on a section of road for years upon years, I can't imagine what it'd be like waiting for them to install glass roads.

The U.S. interstate system was not built overnight.
:2 cents:


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