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harvey 10-21-2011 03:10 PM

fiddy take overs! :thumbsup

signupdamnit 10-21-2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 18507510)
There are some ND sites that still convert at better than 1:200.

Using whose stats though? As I understand it those aren't raws. I don't believe they are even first page uniques, are they?

signupdamnit 10-21-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B! (Post 18507505)


You're starting to sound like Pauly M. My father taught me to never count someone else's money and to never pay attention to anyone's bank account, but my own.

He also told me not to talk about things I have no clue about, but this is gfy after all, if people followed that piece of advice the board would have very few posts.

Not to knock your dad. He was/is probably a great guy. But . . .Yet you feel the need to reply and chastise him for stating his opinion. On one hand you're a great sage on the other hand everyone else is ignorant, knows nothing, and should just shut up. Interesting. I must ask what makes you any better than him or the rest of us? Why are you the only one who should be allowed to speak and state opinions?

Did I see you also in the Melissa Money and the FNCash threads? I thought I did. Can't be sure now and don't have the time to check but I think I recall you making a certain impression on me...

Dubya 10-21-2011 03:22 PM

probably true else Nathan or someone from RK would be here denying it.

InfoGuy 10-21-2011 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18507569)
Using whose stats though?

ND stats

Vjo 10-21-2011 05:00 PM

When they raised the min to $300 beginning of the year (or end of last year), that was a sign of things to come.

That ALWAYS means the affil is gonna get fucked eventually.

Links pulled.

JA$ON 10-21-2011 05:04 PM

No, it is NOT true

IndustryTruth 10-21-2011 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON (Post 18507733)
No, it is NOT true

Really? Is that why the old new age location is going to be for webcams and they're going to shoot content at the RK studio. Guess you're wrong bro

BlackCrayon 10-21-2011 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18507724)
When they raised the min to $300 beginning of the year (or end of last year), that was a sign of things to come.

That ALWAYS means the affil is gonna get fucked eventually.

Links pulled.

min payout is still 50 bucks..

Mr Pheer 10-21-2011 06:35 PM

When they buy Penthouse/AFF, I'll retire from adult that same day.

Vjo 10-21-2011 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18507811)
min payout is still 50 bucks..

http://i53.tinypic.com/2lxa0rc.jpg

Not for me. 50, 100, 200 are grayed out. Starts at $300.

I thought this was pretty common knowledge that they went to min $300 but maybe not. Anyone else at $50?

Sly 10-21-2011 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18507828)
http://i53.tinypic.com/2lxa0rc.jpg

Not for me. 50, 100, 200 are grayed out. Starts at $300.

I thought this was pretty common knowledge that they went to min $300 but maybe not. Anyone else at $50?

It could be dependent on your location or payout method as well.

WarChild 10-21-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18507828)
http://i53.tinypic.com/2lxa0rc.jpg

Not for me. 50, 100, 200 are grayed out. Starts at $300.

I thought this was pretty common knowledge that they went to min $300 but maybe not. Anyone else at $50?

I think $300 is the minimum wire payment. $50 is for checks. Are you sure you're using checks?

Vjo 10-21-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18507832)
I think $300 is the minimum wire payment. $50 is for checks. Are you sure you're using checks?

Oh shit man. Thanks. I am using wires. Duh.

Links not pulled. :thumbsup

Pays to read GFY. Now I got a payment coming next period.

Sigh. I think I am getting a little slower in my advancing age. Thanks again. :)

Edit: And thanks BlackCrayon and Sly too. :thumbsup

For a long time $50 was the min for wires so I ASSuMEd... :) It's the little stuff that goes first. hehe

Vjo 10-21-2011 07:21 PM

Confirmed. I am set for $50 now. I feel a whole lot better about ND again now. I was thinking for months they raised it.

Hopefully they will continue to rock. I have always been their #1 fan. In the day, my bank's $13 wire fee didnt matter. Now days I am glad to go with check and save it. :)

Robbie 10-21-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B! (Post 18507505)
My father taught me to never count someone else's money and to never pay attention to anyone's bank account, but my own.

Promoted Jug Cash from back when they first started. When I was making 200 sales month with Nasty Dollars simply running their hosted galleries...I'd make maybe 30 sales a month with Jug Cash. They just never were a big seller for us. And my other friends in this business who had big traffic like we did reported the same thing.

I do know that Pornhub has millions of unique visitors per day and that they are making a killing off of their white label for streamate. Enough just there to buy a big program.
And I do know that their paysites are feeling the same (self-induced in their case) pain that all major generic paysites are feeling when everything is free.

I don't need to know their exact numbers. I do have as much or more experience in this business as most anybody...and using my knowledge I can tell you that Brazzers didn't buy shit. Manwin did. And Manwin's main money in ADULT is from Pornhub and the dozens of other big porn tubes that they have acquired. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

gabe100 10-21-2011 09:07 PM

Talked to a guy close to RK here in LA and he said straight out no. On another board, A rep from RK is saying nope, business as usual. Sources close to Brazzers say this shit is signed sealed and delivered. For sure, rock solid closed and xhamster is next.

Congrats to all.

DoubleT 10-22-2011 04:57 AM

Brazzers says yes, RK says no.

But it takes two to tango.

Would be nice if someone from one of these companies could jump in and set the record straight.

porkbrothersdotnet 10-22-2011 06:23 AM

I just thought of a positive. Maybe RK will offer rev-share. ChaChing!

CaptainHowdy 10-22-2011 06:31 AM

Have a great weekend, everyone ...

ladida 10-22-2011 08:31 AM

Yea, hard time believing this. If they bought rk, did they buy their hosting company as well? Their billing company? Other parts of RK branch (naked, fling, muffia) .... ?

Yea, don't think so.

MaDalton 10-22-2011 08:43 AM

the funny thing is that nowadays almost no one would be surprised anymore if that really happens

Oracle Porn 10-22-2011 08:45 AM

that's huge....poor affiliates...

The Porn Nerd 10-22-2011 09:13 AM

So c'mon Manwin, if you got that kinda cash then throw us all a few bones, eh? $50 per GFY post, let's go....

Caligari 10-22-2011 09:18 AM

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Shap 10-22-2011 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18508633)
So c'mon Manwin, if you got that kinda cash then throw us all a few bones, eh? $50 per GFY post, let's go....

Lol Fabian doesn't deal in denominations under 8 figures and it looks like he's moving that to 9 lol

Porno Dan 10-22-2011 10:00 AM

Merger would make a lot of sense.

Take the traffic of Manwin and drive it to the areas where they are lacking like cams (Naked) and dating (Fling)

Take the management experience of the talented people at RK TV and have them run the newest Manwin acquisition Playboy TV.

Both companies have branched away from recorded content in a subscription based format as their primary sources of income and this really does seem like the perfect merger.

porno jew 10-22-2011 10:25 AM

that's for wires. that was swictehd after epassporte went down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18507828)
http://i53.tinypic.com/2lxa0rc.jpg

Not for me. 50, 100, 200 are grayed out. Starts at $300.

I thought this was pretty common knowledge that they went to min $300 but maybe not. Anyone else at $50?


porno jew 10-22-2011 10:41 AM

brazzers is one of the op three biggest paysites, out there, if not the biggest. i'm sure it is doing ok.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18507240)
Or like 2005 (when Brazzers was at it's height of sales as a medium selling group of paysites) buying 2001 (when Nasty Dollars was at it's height of sales as a tremendous selling group of paysites)

What you should say is that PORNHUB and all the other tube sites Manwin owns bought them. "Brazzers" doesn't make enough money to buy shit.


porno jew 10-22-2011 11:19 AM

hope they keep smutpost active.

CamChameleon 10-22-2011 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 18508688)
Merger would make a lot of sense.

Take the traffic of Manwin and drive it to the areas where they are lacking like cams (Naked) and dating (Fling)

Take the management experience of the talented people at RK TV and have them run the newest Manwin acquisition Playboy TV.

Both companies have branched away from recorded content in a subscription based format as their primary sources of income and this really does seem like the perfect merger.

:thumbsup

bDok 10-22-2011 11:35 AM

I'm just confused if this isn't true why someone from RK isn't in here saying it isn't happening. The fact that someone from manwin or rk isn't here I think says something without saying anything at all.

Robbie 10-22-2011 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bDok (Post 18508810)
I'm just confused if this isn't true why someone from RK isn't in here saying it isn't happening. The fact that someone from manwin or rk isn't here I think says something without saying anything at all.

I haven't seen anybody from Nasty Dollars around here in a long time (or at least I haven't noticed them)

And Fabian hasn't posted on GFY in about a month.

You have to remember that most companies don't run all their biz on GFY. And with the affiliate business model on life support anyway (how many of y'all have any traffic?), I guess it's not a priority to rush to GFY to give details.

Blazing 10-22-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 18508688)
Merger would make a lot of sense.

Take the traffic of Manwin and drive it to the areas where they are lacking like cams (Naked) and dating (Fling)

Take the management experience of the talented people at RK TV and have them run the newest Manwin acquisition Playboy TV.

Both companies have branched away from recorded content in a subscription based format as their primary sources of income and this really does seem like the perfect merger.

Sounds right to me.. ;)

bDok 10-22-2011 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18508814)
I haven't seen anybody from Nasty Dollars around here in a long time (or at least I haven't noticed them)

And Fabian hasn't posted on GFY in about a month.

You have to remember that most companies don't run all their biz on GFY. And with the affiliate business model on life support anyway (how many of y'all have any traffic?), I guess it's not a priority to rush to GFY to give details.

I felt like I was seeing like scubasteve postings around as of late. He's with RK isn't he? Or maybe he's with bang bros. I get them confused.
Oh well. We will know at some point one way or the other.

Sly 10-22-2011 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bDok (Post 18508896)
I felt like I was seeing like scubasteve postings around as of late. He's with RK isn't he? Or maybe he's with bang bros. I get them confused.
Oh well. We will know at some point one way or the other.

scuba is BBO.

Kenny B! 10-22-2011 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18507579)
Not to knock your dad. He was/is probably a great guy. But . . .Yet you feel the need to reply and chastise him for stating his opinion. On one hand you're a great sage on the other hand everyone else is ignorant, knows nothing, and should just shut up. Interesting. I must ask what makes you any better than him or the rest of us? Why are you the only one who should be allowed to speak and state opinions?

Did I see you also in the Melissa Money and the FNCash threads? I thought I did. Can't be sure now and don't have the time to check but I think I recall you making a certain impression on me...

I'm not chastising anyone, I'm giving my opinion like everyone else does around here, that's how we have conversations. I don't claim to be a great sage or more knowledgeable than anyone else, and the only person I feel is ignorant is Paul with the crap he spews all the time. But even he made a living doing what he loved and seems happy so I wish the man well.

I don't come around here beating my chest, thinking I'm better than anyone or talking down to people, at best I bust some balls but I can give it and take it.

I don't recall posting in any FNCash threads, as for the MM thread I just said something to the effect of most people posting probably weren't even owed any money and those that lost a bit should move on. Which is mighty hypocritical of me considering Mariah Milano owes me a couple hundred bucks and I won't let it go, so ya got me there. But really what's wrong with telling people to move on over being owed a few bucks, people tell me that all the time and really they're right.

As for my comments to Robbie, I just don't get why people think they have any clue as to how well other people do, or why it matters. So many people speculate how Fabian made the money needed to buy all the web properties he owns, how much of the company he actually owns, how much he makes etc. But to say Brazzers doesn't make enough to buy anything is ridiculous and I was just commenting on that. From where I sit I just assume that a paysite ranking under 1000 on alexa (for whatever that's worth) with ads all over the net does some decent business... which makes me a hypocrite again making assumptions about what Brazzers does in sales, I'm doing the same thing as Robbie but coming up with a different assumption. I just don't get why people care some much about what others make.

Robbie seems to be a hard working guy, I have nothing but respect for that. I don't know him but I know the owners of solo slut cash quite well, they are great people and wouldn't be in business with anyone who wasn't good people. I happen to disagree with the way he feels about Bazzers/Fabian and felt the need to say so. Which of their properties makes the most is anyone's guess, what difference does it make when it's all just pieces of the same pie. It's all semantics anyways, no individual site is making or facilitation these acquisitions anyways.

I'm not sure what impressions you have of me, but I'm not a hater or know it all, a smart ass at times perhaps.

Robbie 10-22-2011 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny B! (Post 18508956)
But to say Brazzers doesn't make enough to buy anything is ridiculous

What I said quite clearly is that Brazzers (Jug Cash) was never one of the biggest selling paysites. It started a little late in the game to really hit the big time as far as generic porn sites go. It was a decent selling site for me.

And in 2011...it's selling a lot less than it was in 2005. Everything is as far as paysites go.

I was pointing out that "Brazzers" didn't buy anything. IF a sale took place...Manwin did the buying. And I don't care what Fabian tries to tell you...his biggest money in the Adult industry is coming from his tube sites off his whitelabels and pre-paid ad spots.

Nothing "wrong" with that. I was just making the observation that Brazzers is a paysite. It's not a person. It can't buy anything. And even if it could...they don't have enough paysite sales to buy Nasty Dollars.

Manwin obviously does have the money.

I get what you think you're trying to tell me. But I don't need to be told. I know enough about free sites and paysites to be able to make an educated guess that the paysite Brazzers isn't buying anything.

Manwin is.

And Manwin's main money in the adult business does not come from Brazzers.

You don't need to see their books to know that.

georgeyw 10-22-2011 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18508653)
Lol Fabian doesn't deal in denominations under 8 figures and it looks like he's moving that to 9 lol

There it is - Twistys sold for over 10 mil mark :thumbsup I'm guessing either bang on 10

Shap 10-22-2011 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18509247)
There it is - Twistys sold for over 10 mil mark :thumbsup I'm guessing either bang on 10

10mil???? Ohhhh fuck I see what you did i'm including decimal points don't they count? If not drop that to 6 figures

bDok 10-22-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18508907)
scuba is BBO.

Ok. Well then there goes that idea. :upsidedow

georgeyw 10-23-2011 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18509382)
10mil???? Ohhhh fuck I see what you did i'm including decimal points don't they count? If not drop that to 6 figures

Definitely don't count - how many change tins do you have in your car / office / house / bedroom / kitchen. They don't count because no one uses it unless it's in your pocket at the exact moment you need it.

6 figures it not believeable :thumbsup

redhead 10-24-2011 03:37 AM

Bump...still no comment from either side??

DoubleT 10-24-2011 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bDok (Post 18508810)
I'm just confused if this isn't true why someone from RK isn't in here saying it isn't happening. The fact that someone from manwin or rk isn't here I think says something without saying anything at all.

Monday morning and the silence is deafening.

redhead 10-24-2011 05:34 AM

Indeed, where are all the ITK's?

Lykos 10-24-2011 08:18 AM

Major steps from Fabian,as always...:)

vsex 10-24-2011 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18508653)
Lol Fabian doesn't deal in denominations under 8 figures and it looks like he's moving that to 9 lol

I see what you did there. :1orglaugh

Robbie 10-24-2011 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleT (Post 18511371)
Monday morning and the silence is deafening.

No shit! Don't these two major companies realize that the FIRST thing they need to do is come to a message board and tell a bunch of people using highschool nicknames (not directed at you personally...but the whole board) that may or may not be an affiliate of their cash programs (and in 2011 definitely DON'T have traffic unless your name is "FreeOnes") EXACTLY what they are doing!

Damn it! Who the hell do they think they are anyway? They do NOT want to piss of TeenCat or fatfoo! :1orglaugh

MaDalton 10-24-2011 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18512041)
No shit! Don't these two major companies realize that the FIRST thing they need to do is come to a message board and tell a bunch of people using highschool nicknames (not directed at you personally...but the whole board) that may or may not be an affiliate of their cash programs (and in 2011 definitely DON'T have traffic unless your name is "FreeOnes") EXACTLY what they are doing!

Damn it! Who the hell do they think they are anyway? They do NOT want to piss of TeenCat or fatfoo! :1orglaugh

he... everytime i read "Robbie" i am reminded of my favorite childhood TV puppet show

http://images.junostatic.com/full/CS1294098-02A-BIG.jpg

DWB 10-24-2011 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18512041)
They do NOT want to piss of TeenCat or fatfoo! :1orglaugh

I think all of us walk on eggshells around fatfoo.


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