:thumbsup

I'm just confused if this isn't true why someone from RK isn't in here saying it isn't happening. The fact that someone from manwin or rk isn't here I think says something without saying anything at all.

I haven't seen anybody from Nasty Dollars around here in a long time (or at least I haven't noticed them)

And Fabian hasn't posted on GFY in about a month.

You have to remember that most companies don't run all their biz on GFY. And with the affiliate business model on life support anyway (how many of y'all have any traffic?), I guess it's not a priority to rush to GFY to give details.

Sounds right to me.. ;)

I felt like I was seeing like scubasteve postings around as of late. He's with RK isn't he? Or maybe he's with bang bros. I get them confused.
Oh well. We will know at some point one way or the other.

scuba is BBO.

I'm not chastising anyone, I'm giving my opinion like everyone else does around here, that's how we have conversations. I don't claim to be a great sage or more knowledgeable than anyone else, and the only person I feel is ignorant is Paul with the crap he spews all the time. But even he made a living doing what he loved and seems happy so I wish the man well.

I don't come around here beating my chest, thinking I'm better than anyone or talking down to people, at best I bust some balls but I can give it and take it.

I don't recall posting in any FNCash threads, as for the MM thread I just said something to the effect of most people posting probably weren't even owed any money and those that lost a bit should move on. Which is mighty hypocritical of me considering Mariah Milano owes me a couple hundred bucks and I won't let it go, so ya got me there. But really what's wrong with telling people to move on over being owed a few bucks, people tell me that all the time and really they're right.

As for my comments to Robbie, I just don't get why people think they have any clue as to how well other people do, or why it matters. So many people speculate how Fabian made the money needed to buy all the web properties he owns, how much of the company he actually owns, how much he makes etc. But to say Brazzers doesn't make enough to buy anything is ridiculous and I was just commenting on that. From where I sit I just assume that a paysite ranking under 1000 on alexa (for whatever that's worth) with ads all over the net does some decent business... which makes me a hypocrite again making assumptions about what Brazzers does in sales, I'm doing the same thing as Robbie but coming up with a different assumption. I just don't get why people care some much about what others make.

Robbie seems to be a hard working guy, I have nothing but respect for that. I don't know him but I know the owners of solo slut cash quite well, they are great people and wouldn't be in business with anyone who wasn't good people. I happen to disagree with the way he feels about Bazzers/Fabian and felt the need to say so. Which of their properties makes the most is anyone's guess, what difference does it make when it's all just pieces of the same pie. It's all semantics anyways, no individual site is making or facilitation these acquisitions anyways.

I'm not sure what impressions you have of me, but I'm not a hater or know it all, a smart ass at times perhaps.

What I said quite clearly is that Brazzers (Jug Cash) was never one of the biggest selling paysites. It started a little late in the game to really hit the big time as far as generic porn sites go. It was a decent selling site for me.

And in 2011...it's selling a lot less than it was in 2005. Everything is as far as paysites go.

I was pointing out that "Brazzers" didn't buy anything. IF a sale took place...Manwin did the buying. And I don't care what Fabian tries to tell you...his biggest money in the Adult industry is coming from his tube sites off his whitelabels and pre-paid ad spots.

Nothing "wrong" with that. I was just making the observation that Brazzers is a paysite. It's not a person. It can't buy anything. And even if it could...they don't have enough paysite sales to buy Nasty Dollars.

Manwin obviously does have the money.

I get what you think you're trying to tell me. But I don't need to be told. I know enough about free sites and paysites to be able to make an educated guess that the paysite Brazzers isn't buying anything.

Manwin is.

And Manwin's main money in the adult business does not come from Brazzers.

You don't need to see their books to know that.

There it is - Twistys sold for over 10 mil mark :thumbsup I'm guessing either bang on 10

10mil???? Ohhhh fuck I see what you did i'm including decimal points don't they count? If not drop that to 6 figures

Ok. Well then there goes that idea. :upsidedow

Definitely don't count - how many change tins do you have in your car / office / house / bedroom / kitchen. They don't count because no one uses it unless it's in your pocket at the exact moment you need it.

6 figures it not believeable :thumbsup

Bump...still no comment from either side??

Monday morning and the silence is deafening.

Indeed, where are all the ITK's?

Major steps from Fabian,as always...:)

I see what you did there. :1orglaugh

No shit! Don't these two major companies realize that the FIRST thing they need to do is come to a message board and tell a bunch of people using highschool nicknames (not directed at you personally...but the whole board) that may or may not be an affiliate of their cash programs (and in 2011 definitely DON'T have traffic unless your name is "FreeOnes") EXACTLY what they are doing!

Damn it! Who the hell do they think they are anyway? They do NOT want to piss of TeenCat or fatfoo! :1orglaugh

he... everytime i read "Robbie" i am reminded of my favorite childhood TV puppet show

http://images.junostatic.com/full/CS1294098-02A-BIG.jpg

I think all of us walk on eggshells around fatfoo.

you want to piss me of? :1orglaugh

The rumor is false

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

sold now or not? how about we get an official statement in here?

I'm here in Miami Beach and I cannot see any sale of RK. I'm on the 22nd floor of my building so I can see a lot. If there is a sale, there will be smoke from the porn chimney and I will report to GFY ASAP. (or someone will run up a baloon or something)

I'm looking right the fuck at them so if any money changes hands I'm going to know it.

Obviously there is nothing done. No statement tells you that.

Everyone knows Fabian is making huge moves and many major companies are targets. He is probably in talks with many companies and any company he's in talks with can't and wouldn't want to discuss it publicly. Take it as a rumor that may become a reality and nothing more.

Btw all you big solid companies get your books and data in order. You don't want to be scrambling to do that when Fabian knocks on your door

Of course these are not first page uniques, but as you can see some noobs fall for it and post it as the real stats. You must be clueless to post those stats as an actual ratio...
I wonder how many ND affiliates were fooled that way (and some of them maybe even fooled others by posting their "ratios" lol)

Are there any left? :1orglaugh

Funny because my thoughts are if not today then tomorrow.

Billers?

correct.

for the companies that even kept an uncooked copy of their books.... almost every company i know in this biz has something fishy going on in accounting.

Manwin bought some of them already too.

You a CPA? I need help. Fabian sent two guys in a Maybach to knock on my door and say "you're next" ... and I don't know what to do.

One word: oxcash.

Blah, blah, blah.

dont forget the rumored FTVgirls...that no one wants to believe

I don't think that is accurate. I think there is something bigger lurking :thumbsup

Makes sense for him to go after processors so he can try to put his smaller competition out of business now that he has bought many of the larger players. That way he reaps more from his purchases. I could see him buying CCBill and then starving out the smaller pay sites and affiliates (ratios collapse to 3x what they were, new fees introduced, smaller accounts closed or just flat out shut it down completely) to make them shutdown to eliminate competition.

I project 50% of the industry leaving if CCBill disappears or somehow becomes no longer viable for smaller businesses (by design). Smaller pay sites and affiliates combined. Practically every webmaster has hundreds or thousands a month tied up in CCBill in rebills.

It's ripe because the owners have their hands full with their hosting ventures and adult could be seen as a liability.

Im hearing bang brothers but that is unconfirmed at this point