Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18508460)

We have three children, a house, etc...

It's not really that easy. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 18508465)

maybe try to give her iodine instead of toxic drugs. Iodine is lacking in just about all modern food but it is a vital nutrition for the thyroid.

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 18508823)

oh and fat whores are gross, so ditch her and find a healthy, normal sized one.

Originally Posted by newB (Post 18509196)

Where are her friends and family during all this?

It seems to me you're assuming a lot of responsibility that's not entirely your own. It might be different if you shared a residence, but obviously you don't.

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 18509263)

all joking aside my exwife had bad thyroid issues. the guys in this thread are right youre in for (even more) miserable, unstable, and erratic behavior from her. distance yourself from the powder keg. you cannot win no matter how hard you try. kids or no kids, leave now or at the very least develop an exit strategy or you're in for swat teams, explosions, 911 calls, repomen, bounty hunters, exboyfriends, and all sorts of other colorful occurences at your doorstep. no matter how 'good' she was before if she's mentally off due to thyroid imbalance youre fucked man. mark my word and yes im speaking from firsthand experience. LEAVE while you still can

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18510280)

who is paying rent at her new hovel? where you living now?

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 18510310)

she told me "get a job if you need anything."

Originally Posted by tical (Post 18509000)

First a little background. Our thyroid gland produces T4, T3, T2, T1, and Calcitonin. T4 & T3 are the most important with regards to metabolism. T3 is the "active" hormone (the one that activates cell receptors to actually raise metabolism) and T4 is a precursor to T3 (i.e., the body *should* convert T4 to T3 as needed).

We naturally produce T4 and T3 at a ratio of around 5:1 along with trace amounts of T2, T1, and Calcitonin.

L-thyroxine is synthetic T4. Today, most doctors prescribe ONLY this hormone to treat hypothyroidism with the notion that the body will convert it to T3 as needed. The problem here is that this doesn't happen efficiently enough for most people. So people will have high T4 levels (that do nothing for metabolism), and sub-optimal T3 levels. But a poorly trained doctor will see that TSH (thyroid hormone demand) has dropped, and they will assume you're fine.

Prior to the development of synthetic T4, in the early 1900s, doctors were treating hypothyroidism using dessicated thyroid (pulverized porcine thyroid) with great success. Dessicated thyroid (Armour, Nature, Westhroid, etc.) have a ratio of T4:T3 that is close to what a human thyroid gland would naturally produce. Unfortunately, a pharma company comes along and synthesizes T4 sometime in the 70s I believe and suddenly the medical community is being "educated" on how this is the best way to treat people with hypothyroidism. Coincidentally, around this time diagnoses of fibromyalgia, depression, and other disorders start to rise. Of course, correlation doesn't equal causation but it's definitely curious to say the least.

Anyway, the medication I would personally suggest is dessicated thyroid (any brand). You would slowly increase your dose until hypothyroid symptoms disappear and/or your lab ranges show your Free T3 near the top of the range (after an AM blood draw BEFORE you take any of your meds). Most people are able to correct their metabolism using between 60mg-180mg of the hormone (some may need more). For example, my mom started at 30mg, a week later went up to 60mg, then a week later 90mg and then held at this dose for 4 weeks. We got labs and her Free T3 was much better than before (on T4 only) but she still needed a little more. So we increased her dose to 120mg and held for 4 weeks again, got some labs done, and now she's just where she needs to be. Nothing has changed and it's been over a year now and she feels much better. My dose is also 120mg. Each small pill is 60mg and I take 1 in the AM and one in the afternoon.

If (a shitty) doctor would review your labs at a point where you're feeling better on the meds, they'd probably say "oh your TSH" is too low, you're taking too much. But in reality, you're not... your brain just has no need to send this signal to your thyroid gland to produce any hormone because you're already supplementing it via your meds. So, if you decide to look for a doctor to treat your thyroid... make sure they focus on markers other than TSH, specifically Free T3. Otherwise you'll just end up at square one.

It really is a very simple process. The problem is people expect results immediately but it takes a good 4+ weeks for symptom alleviation after you've found your dose, so patience is key. You really don't wake up one morning and say "wow I feel it now" because it's such a gradual improvement... instead, after a couple of months you'll look back and realize how awful you felt then vs now.

The hormone is natural and it's cheap. Labwork is cheap (you don't even need to go to a doctor to get it) and once you've found your optimal dose you may need to order labs once a year just to make sure nothing has changed.

Originally Posted by venus (Post 18509469)

this is Rx only right?

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 18510354)

you can get bovine/cow desiccated thyroid and it works the same. i worked for a holistic health practioner many moons ago and he treated women with pretty servere thyroid dysfuntion. i watched these women get healthy over a few months time and they were terribly ill when they came in. not saying it is the answer for everyone, but if anyone is interested in checking out the product he used it is here: http://www.standardprocess.com/displ...hinpmg8025.pdf

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 18510432)

If I ever see her again, and that is dreadfully likely, I will be sure and try to make her take some :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18510443)

Have you ever stopped to ask what is it about yourself that you need to live in constant chaos and that your life is always such a mess?

Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 18510539)

What do you think people did before they had silly excuses like "ADHD" and socialist-leaning-societies to bankroll them.

They worked or they starved. You should try it. I guarantee it will change your outlook.

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 18510579)

I thought it was silly, too, but I believe it now.

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18507920)

I saw that correction :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18510670)

Ask yourself why you spend so much time and energy trying to care for someone that obviously doesn't care for you, and figure out a way to apply that energy to your own success. If you can focus on one thing, you have to be able to find a way to channel that focus into something that's actually productive. Some pills may help, but I think that you already have it in yourself to help control the issue.

You should also look at your diet. I'm betting that you eat like absolute shit.

Originally Posted by tical (Post 18509000)

First a little background.

Originally Posted by selena (Post 18513288)

Thank you for all that info. Any suggestion on where can you get baseline lab work done without a doctor's order?

Originally Posted by tical (Post 18513388)

Yeah here are a couple of places:

www.saveonlabs.com
www.privatemdlabs.com

You'd order your labwork at one of these places and you get emailed a requisition form. Then you just print it out and walk into any labcorp to get your blood drawn. Your results will be emailed / posted online in a few days.

Labcorp is likely the same lab your doctor uses when they give you a lab order. I think it's the largest lab in the US with multiple offices in every city.

The only difference is the price. The same labs ordered by your doctor would cost significantly more than if you ordered them by yourself.

Originally Posted by woj (Post 18507910)

dude, it's just a coincidence that she went bat shit crazy now, it has nothing to do with her thyroid issues... and actually 99% of women are like that... :2 cents:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18529020)

Totally right. Never heard of links with thyroid and mental health.

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 18529014)

I found her in the basement laying there sick and hardly moving

Maybe she'll cause some more disasters

I have kept company with dangerous ass bitches, before

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 18529082)

buy yourself some good pussy and and put this miserable chapter of your life behind you. i'm serious man get your passport and plane ticket today and you will question your own sanity once you return... if you so choose to. i've been in your shoes more times than i care to recollect. girls who -repeatedly- have fuckedup life experiences despite your help and good intentions do so for a reason. save yourself

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 18529086)

I never have paid for snatch and never will- don't see how anyone enjoys that

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 18529086)

I never have paid for snatch and never will- don't see how anyone enjoys that

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 18529029)

Look what a one minute google search shows:

Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 18529540)

Cliff notes?

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18529543)

Somone's bird is a bit mental and blaming that on thyroid issues.

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 18510294)

And I have a tip for everyone:

Anything you do or have done for a woman does not count if she doesn't ask or remember asking you to do it, at all, no matter what it cost you or in what way, so only do something for a woman if you can do it expecting nothing more than to feel good about what you did for her. And, make sure that she is worth doing it for, first. Because once something doesn't count, it ain't easy to feel good about it. You could try simply not doing whatever it is, but she might hate you for not doing what ever it might have been, so you probably should do it, or you could always just let someone convince you that you need a new one OR try having one less problem.