These cops all got promoted.

All over a pipe and a gram of weed.

Looks like he got off easy

civil suit :2 cents: i hope she gets paid

There is a difference between talking to the police and putting hands on the police.

You have very valid point - put someone in a choke hold and they will fight back. But when your being questioned by the police AND your out numbered, your best bet to is to submitted.

In 2004 I had the joy of being part of a full felony stop. To make a long story short, I pulled away from a marked cop car at a very high rate of speed. I never saw the cop, and he assumed I was running from him. Before he hit the lights he was calling for back up, thinking I had drugs or a dead body in the trunk. Full felony stop, shut down the freeway, hands out to the window, searchlights, down on the pavement until I was cuffed.

I could have been a dick about it. I also could have ended up with a face full of gravel.

I have zero respect for anyone who doesn't have respect for law enforcement. Period.

They grabbed her first. :helpme

This is what I mean folks. Cops pull him over with no probable cause, wasting his time while violating his rights and he has no respect for anyone that doesn't respect them.

What the fuck is left to say? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

My thoughts exactly.

Cops make stupid demands, like asking you to put down a phone, spit out gum, stand a certain way, etc, SPECIFICALLY to escalate the situation. They WANT to make you mad.

And then she put hands on them.

It is a very simple equation. When the police decide to arrest you, you are getting arrested. You can choose to make it easy or hard.

Could they have done a better job of this? Maybe. Could they have done their job without punching her in the side? Possibly.

The reality is if you put your hands on a cop you lose.

I don't give a shit that she "lost", that is expected. I give a shit that he was cleared of wrongdoing even though he is obviously wrong and that idiots are apologizing for it because "that's just how it is". She got herself a nice little check by not following retarded ass orders, maybe one day taxpayers won't have to pay for stupidity of cops and those that back this kind of behavior.

they should have knocked her teeth out for resisting.

eh...he shouldnt have punched her like that
she was being a pain in the ass though

It really, really gets under my skin that there is a "failure to OBEY a police officer" law in cities in the United States.

WTF? It's an actual LAW? So now the cops could just decide they don't like the way you fucking look...walk up to you and demand you to get up against a wall with your hands spread.

And if you ask "why"...you just "disobeyed" and broke the law. NOW they can take your ass. And if you try to pull away and ask "WHY?" Now you've "resisted arrest"

We have given WAY too much authority to cops. Total bullshit. Failure to "Obey". Like we are a bunch of animals or children.

:2 cents:

they do this because if you are guilty of something they want you to reveal it.

Things can escalate in a hurry out of nothing. Here is a case out of my life.

Last year I got pulled over for having expired tags. I had the new tags with me in the glove box, but hadn't put them on yet. This was in June. My tags expire in June. I thought I had until the end of the month, but apparently that isn't the case. On your registration there is an actual day the tags expire.

I am driving, my brother is in the passenger seat and we get pulled over. He asks if I know why I got pulled over and I say no. He tells me expired tags. I tell him I have the new tags in the glove box and explain that i thought I had until the end of the month to put them. That is when he tells me about the expiration date. My brother opens up the glove box and is looking for the new tags. It is taking a minute for him to find them in all the junk I have in there. The cop then casually says to me: "Where you guys headed?" That question struck me wrong. The first thing that popped into my head was to tell him it was no fucking business of his where I was headed. Instead I just said, "Home. Why?" He didn't answer.

My brother then finds the tags, he has us put them on and all is fine in the world.

Now had I decided to say what I was thinking he may have shrugged it off. He also may have given me a ticket. He also may have gotten in my face about being respectful to a cop and which point I could easily see how something like that could escalate to the point where I could get arrested and if I choose then resist arrest I could end up getting my ass kicked.

A lot of times cops ask you little things in hopes that you will react a certain way and expose yourself. Had I stuttered or stammered or seemed like I was making something up when I answered him he might have asked me more questions because he felt like I was up to something illegal. He might also have a feeling like I have drugs on me or in the car and is looking for a reason to search it.

The moral of the story is: when dealing with the police, stay calm, say as little as possible and keep your hands off them.

Nope sorry, thats not the moral of the story, the moral of the story is you're so spineless you'll let the cops violate every right you have because you're afraid. That my friend is a police state.

Where do you see that she got a a nice little check? I went back and looked through the thread and it looks like he was cleared of wrong doing and she still has charges pending.

As for their wrong doing: are you saying they should have never arrested her or that when they decided to arrest her that they should have never been as rough as they were?

Cops think they can get away with anything, and they push the limits everyday. Whats scary is we don't always get their behavior on tape or even hear about it.

The cops went too easy on her. I mean she actually had the nerve to grab the officers shirt as she was having her airway cut off. The police officer might have had his smelly t-shirt stretched out. Oh the horror!

Was she under arrest? Looked to me like she had free control of her hands until they got pissy that she didn't bow down to their orders about the cell phone. I'll answer my fucking phone whenever I damned well please and so should she. I called my dad once while a cop was threatening me and told him "listen to this stupid fucker". If I were a black lady in the ghetto I would have been arrested but I made it clear that I knew my rights and that he could kiss my ass for trying to order me around like I'm his puppy. What is wrong with you that you think this shit is OK? If he wanted to arrest her he says "You are under arrest", instead he was going apeshit over a phone call. I'd bet $1 that's because he had no cause to arrest her at the time. Fuck him.

Oh, and even if he was 100% justified in making an arrest (he wasn't unless something huge is missing) he still handled it wrong. It's fucking illegal, they just simply don't get held accountable or this craziness would end.

So choosing to bite my lip in response to a question instead of mouthing off and potentially causing myself more trouble than it would have ever been worth is spineless?

To me life is about making choices. You choose your battles. This one was a battle that was not worth fighting. For all I know the guy was just trying to make conversation while we waited for my brother to find my tags. It is also possible he was digging for information and hoping I would say something stupid that might give him probable cause to look deeper into me.

Now had he asked me to get out of the car and asked to search my car, it would have been a different story. I would have refused and I would have also refused to answer any questions of his beyond that point.

This video one is much more fucked up. prison warder beats a woman prisoner:

I can only go off of what is in the video and what I saw in that article posted here. It sounds like she is engaged to a guy they were looking for/investigating and the cop thought it was he that she was talking to and that she would warn him about them so he told her to not use the phone.

I assume she was arrested because in the article it says "the arresting officer," but I don't know if that arrest came from her not putting down the phone or from her resisting arrest.

When you were stopped/dealing with the cops and called your dad what was the situation? If you were involved with someone else they were looking for, they likely wouldn't have just let you talk on the phone for fear that you would be warning/informing them.

I'm not saying cops are perfect. I'm not saying they couldn't have handled this situation better. It is a hard fucking job. Everyone you talk to all day long lies to you and you have to figure out who is right and wrong and arrest those who are really breaking the law. If the police are after your girlfriend/fiance' and they think you are helping to hide her, they aren't going to be sweet and nice to you and just let you talk on the phone. Maybe they will be in the wrong by taking your phone away, maybe they won't be, but they often have seconds to make that decision and act on it.

In my opinion it is and here's why. In a free society government agents should never have the authority to stop people at random (don't fool yourself, thats exactly what most traffic stops are) and question people on where they are going or where they just came from. The more people accept it the more it happens and it inches towards fascism. It is none of the govts business where I've or anyone has been.



Why would it have been different if he wanted to search? Why would you care...you have nothing to hide.

Get out or here, pirate. All you do is steal videos from others and put them up on your shitty tube.

Just because its not porn doesn't mean its not piracy.

sometimes cops are just chit chatting as well...you know like the girl at the 7/11
it is their form of talking about the weather.
remain calm, be nice, try to make a non offensive joke
no problems

cops are people...however roided up cops on power trips are asshats

Bingo!

I have had a pig show up at my front door looking for someone I had never heard of before, and refuse to leave until I showed him my DL. Now why the fuck should I have to show my DL on my own fucking property, when I'm not even driving a car? The cop was so stupid that he literally did not know that I had the right to refuse to ID myself on my own front porch and had to call his supervisor to OK it.

Let me guess, she was big fat black woman?
More spam of your tube site?

First off, he didn't stop me at random. He saw my tags expire in that month so he punched my license plate number into their system and it showed that they were in fact already expired so he then pulled me over. That is a legitimate stop. I was in violation of a law he was stopping me for it.

He never asked me where I was coming from, but as I said above he did ask me where I was going. I don't know what his intentions were with the question. I happen to know and am friends with a bunch of cops so I know a lot of times the seemingly innocent question isn't so.




You are right, I had done nothing wrong and therefore he had no reason to search my car. Had he decided he wanted to do that for whatever reason I would have told him that I was not consenting to the search. Had he decided to get a warrant or if he told me he has probable cause I would have insisted that he wait to conduct the search until I had legal council present to observe it.

It is one thing to bite you tongue and not be a smartass when asked a question that is meaningless to you. It is another all together to have your constitutional rights violated. Again, in life you have to choose your battles. Searching my car (or house or anything) for no reason is one that I would choose to fight.

Any patrol cop will tell you a traffic stop is a potential felony arrest, you got pulled over because the cop was hoping his little minnow he just caught could turn into a fish or a whale, not because your tags expired a few days before. Cops get promoted based on the amount of arrests they have, and felony arrests score higher points, so they are hoping for drugs, DUI, and yes, assault on a police officer. They have incentive to escalate the situation.

NYPD Narcotics Detective Admits Cops Regularly Plant Drugs

I am aware that they pull you over for little things hoping for big things. If they pull you over for having a busted taillight they don't give a shit about your taillight, they are hoping that you are driving while suspended or uninsured.

But let me ask this: If they pull someone over for something lame like a busted taillight or expired tags and it turns out that person is driving while suspended and doesn't have insurance didn't they potentially just do the public a favor? If that person would have continued to drive around and eventually hit you, they have no insurance you could be screwed. If you were in your car you have uninsured motorist which will help, but if they hit you while you were on a bike or walking you are fucked.

Also, most police departments don't have any kind of arrest or ticket quotas that they have to fill. There might be some out there, but most have done away with it because it can lead to causes corruption.

If they pull you over for no reason at all and you end up with a suspended license didn't they do everyone a favor?

We have rights for a damn reason.

They pulled me over because I was speeding. I was well over 100 mph; They could have arrested me and impounded my car. They had a reason to pull me over, and they had probable cause to think something else illegal was going on.

I had complete respect with the officers, everything was "yes sir" or "no sir", and I did what I was told.

It was even better when I got to court. The judge and I were the only two wearing a tie in the courtroom. I sat there for an hour listening to the bullshit, the excuses, the crying. I'm facing a thousand dollar fine and loosing my driver's license. Judge asks how I plead, I said "Guilty your honor". The judge was dumbfounded. Seems it's not that often that someone shows respect and isn't afraid to admit the truth. He asked if I wished to explain the incident and I just said "I got caught speeding". The ticket was dropped from exceeding 100mph to a regular speeding ticket, $150 fine, one point on my DL.

You get what you deserve in life.

I bet she will put her phone down next time.

Of course the more police presence there is the less crime there will be, if they started doing house to house searches they could probably get half the drugs off the street, but is that a cost you're willing to pay? I'm not. I personally think a proactive form of policing will always lead to abuse, wanting more power and violating ones rights. Cops should be like the fire dept, when theres a fire jump in your cars and go put it out, not drive around setting fires.

If they pull me over for no reason at all how would I end up with a suspended licenses?

So the police should not drive around looking for drunk drivers?

The police should not drive around looking for crimes that are being committed on the spot like assaults, robberies or burglaries?

There is a big gap between pulling someone over because they have expired tags in hopes that they might have a suspended license or no insurance and going door to door doing random searches of people's homes.

will you please stfu !!

Yeah, never enough laws on the books. I mean all that shit about not walking your donkey on Sunday and no oral or anal sex in several states should be enough probable cause for the cops to fuck with you hoping your breaking other laws too. Hell dildos are illegal in several areas, if you see someone leaving the porn store they should definitely be searched for drugs! Don't even get me started on interracial marriages and all that other illegal shit.

You see how stupid that sounds? That is exactly how stupid it is to want cops stopping people for a busted tail light with the intentions of catching felons.