No, I'm 49 years old. It changed about 20 years ago. So I'm gonna have to wait about ten years for it to be most of my lifetime.

100 Presumptions About My Lifetime. lol

The fuckwad cops in my small town are what inspired my original cop hate, actually. Most of the rest since then, from NYC to Cleburne, TX have done nothing but confirm my original feelings.

Of all my negative interactions with cops only one was something you could blame on me. I've had way more than 10 interactions though, I'll post them in no particular order because this goes back 15 or so years. I'm only going to post the negative interactions of course. I probably had 1 good interaction for every 3 or 4 negative ones but I am white, my best friend was a cop in one town around here, my dad worked code enforcement and new several of the local cops, I know half of the cops in my hometown, one cousin is FBI and the other is an ex police detective so sometimes who I know may have played a part in how I was treated.

1) When I was a teenager my next door neighbor invited his black friend to our hick town. Within 5 minutes of him being there I walked outside to find his friend laid over the hood of a police car being frisked right in the middle of the street in front of my house. "What the fuck are you doing?" was my response.

2) Same street. I was standing in front of my neighbors house looking at his new speaker system that he had in the trunk of his car. State trooper that lived down the road rolled by really slow giving us the stink eye. 5 minutes later the local cops show up for us "playing the stereo so loud the cop down the road (1/4 mile) can hear it". Problem being, none of it was hooked up.

3) I dropped a friend of in the main city at around 2:00 AM. It was labor day or something and we had been swimming all day and at a concert all night. I was wet, barefooted and tired. Car full of drunk teens drive up, pull a gun, try to rob us and only leave when my friends dad comes out with a shotgun. Cops are called, cop grills me on "Where do you live? Why are you here at 2:00 am? You need to get your ass home." I was 21 at the time and FUCK YOU was my response. Same cop screwed me on a wreck a few years before but at least she was nice at the time so no story there.

4) The one that you could blame on me. When I was 18 I had a couple of roommates. The cops decided that they obviously sold drugs from my apartment and sent the jump out boys (8 or 10 cops that knock twice then ram your door, yes I answered) at around midnight. For starters they didn't sell drugs but they did smoke copious amounts of weed so nothing was there. 8 cops, about 5 people in my apartment at the time and the whole time they are searching for all this shit they sell and are finding nothing they still feel the need to berate everyone, threaten them with jail, talk shit about their clothes, accuse me of lying (I don't do illegal drugs of any kind) and just being douchebags in general. I don't remember all of the conversations off hand but I cussed at quite a few of them in the sarcastic "What in the fuck is your problem?" way. They found nothing (stems), made no arrests but did manage to get me kicked out of my apartment.

5) Really fucking stupid but LAST YEAR a cop told me I had to leave the arcade we have at our boardwalk here. I told him he was full of shit and walked off. After one more time of me telling him to leave me the fuck alone he did, around 20 people listened to him and left.

6) I'm tired of this shit so going to be several in one. When I lived in an even smaller town I had 2 or 3 neighbors that hated me for no reason, never even spoke to them. Rumors were I sold drugs (whole town) because I never left for work (webmaster and eBay), drove a nice car and had some toys. In the 4 years I lived there I probably had the cops come by around 10 times for.

a) Dog barking at 4:00 in the afternoon.
b) Fighting with wife in the yard. (We weren't even outside)
c) Dog not having a dog house when it was cold. (Had an entire storage building filled with hay)
d) Having an unruly party at 9:00 at night (No party, no noise)
e) Driving 4 wheelers at high speeds with a baby on board, ramping hills etc. (My cop friend brought his 4-wheeler over and drove my then 1 year old son around the yard at about 1/2 a mile per hour)
f) Several other silly things I can't remember.
g) Trailer parked .5 inches into our very wide dead end road. 5 houses on the entire road. Anyhow, no big deal cop says neighbor wanted it moved. I went to go move it and he said wait until morning, it's raining. OK, thanks. 6:00 the next morning a cop is knocking on my door, someone has called again. He got cussed through?. I basically told him that I wasn't sure which idiot neighbor was calling the cops to harass me but if I saw him drive to their house after he left mine I would go over there and whoop their motherfucking ass so for once his visit would be justified. He apologized, laughed and left.

7) Oh shit, I forgot the most memorable one somehow. Two cops knock on my door, detectives. Seems someone complained that something I sold them on eBay wasn't correct (sold some grab bag type baseball card stuff) and they DROVE 3 hours to the police station to complain.

First of all, I refunded anyone that complained about anything if they sent my shit back. I paid 10 cents on the dollar for what I sold at the time so I definitely didn't want the hassle.

Anyhow, they ask nicely to come in which is fine. They ask me if I sell baseball cards, yep sure do. Then one of these fuckers starts demanding to see all this stuff from the ad, show me this and show me that. Giant fucking asshole for no reason. I walk him to my office and even the greatest of idiots would see that I'm running some sort of mail order business with baseball cards. There are about 50 pieces of mail from that day with the payment amounts written on the envelope and checks stacked up beside them. There are about 100 packages already packaged up with labels to be shipped. There are about 10,000 cards on a table being sorted and there are hundreds of dollars in stamps, shipping supplies etc laying around.

So what does this dumbass decide to do after he sees an obviously large mailing operation?

Cop: "Why the fuck are you ripping people off?"

Me: "What the fuck are you talking about?"

Cop: "You're taking these people's money and not sending them what they ordered."

Me: "Are you kidding me?"

Cop: "No, why are you stealing money from people?"

Me: "Dude, my average order is $25. Why the fuck would I want to steal $25 order, if I were going to rob someone I'd at least sell something worth $1000".

Cop: "Yeah, you're robbing people $25 at a time!"

Me: "You stupid motherfucker, I make more money than you do. Look at the 1099 behind you!" (It was a clickcash 1099, thank you clickcash for all the bucks)

At this point he grabs at his belt like he's reaching for cuffs or a gun and is extremely fucking pissed. I yelled at my wife and threw my wallet that had about $3000 cash in it out of the room we were in so she could come bail me out if I got arrested. I didn't know if he was going to arrest me, hit me or what but he was ready to fucking fight. When he was grabbing at his belt I took a step towards him to throw my wallet and his partner that had remained silent this entire time stepped in between us and told us both to calm down. Nice cop asks me if I will refund the guy, I say yes so he gets a check from me and leaves.

Funniest part but unrelated to cops, they left the cards this guy ordered at my house when they left. I go through them, about $1000 in cards are missing. He took every good card there was then drove 2 hours or so to bitch about me to the police. l o fucking l.

Anyhow, that's off the top of my head. There are others like the asshole cop in New Orleans during Mardi that wouldn't let me carry my nearly unconscious wife past a sawhorse and instead demanded I walk 30 foot around a hot dog stand instead and a few other minor things. Point being, I don't inherently respect cops and when they are fucking up like you see in the video it really pisses me off.

Doesn't that happen every day in Compton?

Agree 100%.

All the people sayin 'oh but she should have complied, why did she resist etc' She looked pretty relaxed, sipping on her drink, sittong on the police car - does that strike anyone as an aggressive act?

Police like oldmate in the plain clothes need to be held accountable for their actions no matter what. Letting them off scott free only encourages them.

Imagine how many of these cases have been brushed aside before the mobile phone had video............

This right here explains everything. You don't like cops, and you hate authority.

Every contact you've had with police has been brought on by yourself, your acting like a fucking dick and being treated like one.

A few highlights:
1) Don't ask the police "What the fuck" they are doing.
2) The police weren't harressing you. They were fishing and sending you a message saying "We are watching".
3) Your driving around at 2am, barefoot, looking like death, and you got held up at gun point, and your gonna mouth off at the cop asking you questions like "Where do you live?" and then your gonna tell them to fuck off? Really?
4) So you were in handcuffs and mouthing off to the cops again?
5) You told the cops to fuck off. Again?
6) Your neighbors called in their complaints, the police poked around a bit and... They did their job?
7) Again, someone complained (people are dicks), police show up, ask questions - doing their job - and you... Mouthed off yet again.

You see a cop, instantly fear the worst, and act like a jerk. Instead of being being respectful, you mouth off. Every time an officer meets you for the first time, they quickly size you up - and with your mouth they know exactly what kind of person you are.

You get what you deserve. Disrespect a police officer, mouth off to them, and you'll get treated like shit.

You mentioned that "last year you were in an arcade" so I'm guessing your a kid. You've had more contact with the police at a young age than I've had in forty-three years. And that says a lot.

At a certain point in time you grow up and discover that police aren't there to fuck with you, they are there to do their job. But most twenty-two year olds don't understand this when they are in the arcade. The house across the street was robbed a year ago; I want the police driving down my street every twenty minutes fucking with anyone who looks out of place.

Well, I don't know you or anything about you other than what you post on this board, but if it were me and I read this post about the problems I have had with the cops I would ask myself: What kind of people am I hanging out with? What kind of person am I? Why is it that no matter where I go and what I do I attract the cops?

It seems like every interaction you have (well at least many of them) have you pissed off and acting like a jerk. I'm not saying it isn't unwarranted in some cases, but when you immediately act like that you send up a flag. It also sounds like you develop a reputation in some places or do things that might call attention to yourself. For example, the case where the cop told you to leave an arcade. Why would he do that? Did he just randomly select you from the crowd and tell you to leave?

Once the cops know you and know that trouble follows you they stop giving you the benefit of the doubt. I'm not saying that some cops have been a dick to you for no reason, you give a few good examples of exactly that happening, but I would ask myself why I was always in the middle of this.

It sounds like you had a good time. Can you make a decent living in a band like that? Back in the early 1990's I wrote for a music magazine that covered the northwest music scene. There were a ton of struggling bands playing anywhere they could get a gig and it seemed like most of them made very little money.

Not anymore. Live bands are like dinosaurs compared to what it used to be like.
We were playing 7 days a week, every week of the year traveling the country and being little rock stars. We were with the biggest agencies and made the most money...around $3,500 to $5,000 a week playing clubs.

BUT the agency took 15%, and we had a 3 man crew w/24 foot truck and giant P.A. and light show. We were a 5 piece band. So at the end of the week we paid ourselves $250 each for the band members.

It was tight...but we lived in band houses and hotels. Girls took care of us and fed us in every town. So basically my $250 each week I spent on tubes for my amp, guitar strings, etc.

Didn't have to buy drugs or alcohol 'cause that was all given to us. So I lived like a king off of that $250 each week...it was all profit and I paid no taxes. :)

Now I make a freakin' fortune, live in a giant two story house with a pool and a sport court, drive nice cars...and I'm stressed 24 hours a day.

Sometimes I wish I was back in that band traveling, fucking, and partying every night with my $250 lol

But that whole club circuit is long gone now. Killed by a combination of rap "music" that required no musicians, karaoke, etc.

These days it's not easy to find a GOOD band playing live anywhere. Even here in Vegas I rarely see a rock band that could have cut the mustard and played the "A" circuit back in the 1980's.

The competition and level of musicianship, showmanship, and production were sky high back then. You had to play and sing like a God and LOOK like a "rock star" too (we had to work out, tan, have our hair a certain length etc.) These days I walk into a club and see a band and it looks like a bunch of fat guys who just got off of a construction job.. lol

I'm not reading this thread.

Is it a race thread?

It used to be, back in 70's and 80's and even into the early 90's, that most bands started out playing anywhere they could and toured and played in front of 10 people and learned their craft so if they were lucky enough to get a deal and make it they could play live and sound as good or better than on a record. Then it seemed the industry changed and they didn't care about developing quality acts it became about hit singles. I saw bands that literally had only played 1 or 2 live gigs sign six figure recording contracts because they had a song a label thought could be a hit. I don't know how many bands I have seen live that I had big expectations for and was greatly let down. Now it is almost like when I see a live band and they are good I am actually surprised by it.

Sounds like you had a hell of a good time though for a while. I imagine you have some pretty wild stories to tell.

I remember this one local band had a singer that was amazing. One of the best voices I have ever heard live and they made so little he would make money by winning karaoke contests. Eventually he was offered a job hosting a karaoke show so he took it and left the band. It is a sad day when you leave being in a band to be a karaoke guy because the pay is better.

I remember playing The Silver Dollar Saloon in Flynt Michigan (and no...we usually played big ass clubs that held from 800 to 2000 or more people) and on the wall of the club the owner had all the contracts that bands had signed to play the club.

It was an older rock club. He had Aerosmith's contract when they played there a week, KISS, ZZ Top, and a bunch of other really big rock bands that had played the circuit when they started out and had played that club.

It was always pretty cool to see stuff like that.

And yeah...I've seen some of the most talented people in the world who never get to "make it".

I remember going to an after hours little dive in Jackson, Mississippi after we finished our gig. It was like 4 in the morning and I went there with a group of whores...and there was a guy playing open tuned slide guitar in a rock/blues band who was every bit as good as Ry Cooder playing slide. I just stood there with my jaw on the ground. Felt embarrassed that we were playing the "Big" club in town with all the stuff that came along with that while he was playing a shit hole and was just loaded with talent.

That would have been intense. :2 cents:

Your cops do not fuck around.

fuck the police officers

I hate cops

Why would you feign respect for someone who clearly has no respect for you or your rights? The fact is that there are a great number of police officers that are unfit to wear the badge, and this guy is one of them. He clearly has a problem controlling his aggression.


I'm pretty sure police officers aren't trained to subdue a suspect - a woman no less - by choking them and repeatedly punching them in the ribs. The police department should, at the least, make this guy go through some kind of training course on how to properly subdue a suspect, coupled with some anger management and an unpaid suspension.


You know why this guy acts like that? Because they're in North Dakota and there's absolutely nothing going on. This was probably the highlight of this cops year. From my experiences, cops in the city are much more level headed and well trained because they actually have to work for their paychecks fighting real crime. It's only in the suburbs where you see these power tripping assholes, for the most part.

You would probably be shocked, stunned and disturbed to know exactly how little training most cops have.

They go through the academy, most of which is classroom stuff to teach them about laws and how to do things to make lawyers happy. During the time in the academy they get about 7-10 days of hand to hand training that they call defensive tactics. After they are out of the academy if they get a defensive tactics refresher or training course once every five years they are lucky. My town is does a thing they call con-sim training. This is where they have guns that look real, but have been modified to shook paint bullets and they do scenarios where deadly force likely will be needed. Not all of the scenarios are deadly force, the idea is that it helps teach you when to use it and how to do so if you need to. They get this training once per year. They are one of the few departments in the state that even does this training. This training used to be part of the academy and they just cut it from there. this means there are a lot of offices who are on the street where the only deadly force training they have had is target shooting to qualify with their gun and a little in class study.

It is frightening, but budgets are being cut and when they do the first thing to go is training.

Everyday life.

Nope, Most time if its a female, they call a female cop. I do not think you every will see a male cop hit a female over no fucking phone. That is a punk bitch

How do you fuckers not get it yet? I will ask the cops whatever the fuck I want. They are not above the God damned law and respect is earned when you are dealing with me. I know I am a rude motherfucker, it's the same thing I'd say if I saw one of you doing the shit above. A badge does not deter me and I'm glad I'm not the only one in the world that will stand up for his rights.

Good luck with that, amigo.

You are going to fuk with the wrong cowboy one day, and get your lid split. :2 cents:

enough with the fake outrage. you're just here spamming your tube site

so weird all these bad responses with cops
i have always gotten off light.
be nice..polite...and key..try to make a non offensive joke if they are open to it.

these guys normally deal with asswipes all the time...show them you respect them( even if you dont) and they do have the power to give you a break right on the spot.

Be polite, be firm in your rights
 

Know I posted this before. Just can't find it.
Got off work, went to the grocery store. As I get out of my car, a cop car pulls up with 2 cops, One veteran, one rookie. In the back are 2 people, who I recognize as store employees. From what I hear, they've been cruising the neighborhood looking for a tall Black man with a beard tried to use a stolen credit card. While they we looking for him, he came in again (reported by another employee now standing with them.
When I get up to the door, the rookie wants to arrest me (short, white, did have a beard), as being the guy they're looking for. Older cop stops the rookie just before he's ready to cuff me.
Damn, that trip to jail would have been like winning the lottery. Hello lawsuit.
Was not going to argue. Didn't want a beating.

An officer does not have a legal obligation to answer you...but he does have the legal right to tell you to shut the fuck up and if you don't he has the legal right to arrest you for interfering with his lawful duty...among other potential charges. Your freedom of speech ends when an officer tells you to shut the fuck up.

If you think that a cop has violated any legal rights that you have there is legal recourse and it is not running your mouth at the officer. At some point you may run your mouth to a cop that has had a bad hair day...and you may learn that yes he is God.

One of my friends when I was in highschool became a city cop. He was the type that did not take shit from anyone in school or as an adult. As a cop his attitude remained the same and if you gave him shit he would light your ass up. He was a cop for three years before being fired for excessive use of force.

WTF guys! C'mon he didn't ven hit her. What wimps!

I don't know what gave you the idea that cops can order you to STFU but you are wrong. Same reason they can't tell you to turn off your fucking camera and all that jazz.

The thing is they can tell you to do it. Whether you decide to do it or not is up to you. If you are like this woman you end up arrested. The courts will decide if she is really guilty of a crime or not and she will likely sue so we will find out if the cop was guilty of excessive force or not.

If a cop tells you to shut up and you don't, it depends on what you are saying and how you are saying it. If you are just telling him you are innocent or that he has the wrong person etc likely there is nothing he can legally do to you (doesn't mean he still won't try), but if they are searching for someone they think is in the area and they think you are yelling to help that person escape or you are on the phone warning that person then you are interfering with them doing their job and they can arrest you.

Because it is the law and yes they can and do tell you to turn off your camera and "all that jazz". In some states...if not all...running your mouth is interfering with an officer in the performance of his legal duty for which one can be arrested. Some states are now making it against the law to film an officer during the performance of his/her job...and one state...if I recall correctly...has a fifteen year max for doing so.

Which I'm sure you think is a good thing.

Usually cops will let you run your mouth...as they are used to it and used to dealing the dumb and scum...but you are correct...it does depend on what you are saying and how you are saying it...and it also depends upon the individual cop and/or what kind of mood he is in at the time...whether or not he decides to arrest you for running your mouth/interfering...or non compliance.

The fact is running your mouth and non compliance gives them legal cause to arrest you...and let you tell it to the judge...if the prosecutor does in fact choose to prosecute. It is actually the prosecutor that decides what charges to charge you with and the charges may or may not be what the the arresting officer initially arrested you for. The prosecutor can dismiss all charges...or remove some charges...or add to the charges.

Reality is a cop can pretty much get away with anything these days. And yeah...most of it is dead ass wrong.

But here's the catch...you end up getting beat up and in jail. Then you have to pay to get out of jail and then any doctor bills. Then you have to pay to get a lawyer. Then you have to go through the hassle of all the time (and money) you are going to waste fighting it.

The cops know that 99% of the people they come into contact with are poor and can't afford ANY of that. And very few people who do have money are willing to go through hell...so everybody just shuts up and let's stupid cops push them around and act like jackasses because it's better than getting beat up and going to jail and wasting time and money.

Which I think is a ridiculous law and if and when that law is challenged and if and when it reaches the Federal Supreme Court I would expect it to be knocked down. I also suspect that a State Supreme Court would also knock it down...or at the least modify it...before it ever reached the Federal Supreme court.

All laws are only laws if they are not challenged in court and the courts allow the law to stand as being Constitutional. Laws are challenged virtually every day of the week from Local...County...State and Federal law...and many are knocked down or modified.

Yes that is the reality...so it pays not to run your mouth...give attitude...or not to comply. Be respectful...polite...and get on with your day is the smart thing...and mark it down as a minor annoyance. Hell I am annoyed about something virtually every day.

the police down there are fucked up :2 cents: