You asked for my advice. Don't worry I make enough to have an opinion.

I also asked for your sites -- you won't give that up though.

P.S. I'm not worried.

Why are you taking a ztod thread so personal?

I signed up to Ztod last week, dont think Ill bother pushing them now. Unless they get it sorted.

If a programme as big as this one was in the shit there would be a tidal wave of threads like this all over the numerous boards with people bitching and moaning. Fact is it's just one affiliate who has failed to work with the sponsor to resolve the issue and chose to cry on the internet about it instead.

links pulled on everyone who posted in this thread...movin on:upsidedow

He's just demonstrating what he thinks of affiliates and his attitudes. Just say thanks for the information and act accordingly. :upsidedow FYI- the attitudes of reps don't just form in a vacuum. They are usually passed along from upper management and other colleagues. Can't say I'm surprised here after recent events.

OP- Unless this happens to someone else then it sounds like it might be your bank which has the issue. It's suspicious that they wouldn't tell you why the check is no good.

Speaking of.. Hi Stan :winkwink:

I'd use stolen content from Japan Anime but that's just me bro. Stop throwing stones in a glass house.

I cashed it last night at a Pay-O-Matic on 8th Ave. and 14th!! lol. So ghetto.
Great to know that it looks like things are being sorted out as I'm preparing for a 60+ page promotion and I think ZTOD content is or will be on at least 30 or so of those pages. Not to sound selfish or anything, as it would suck for a lot of people, but if anything were to happen to them, it would be at the worst time possible for me personally.

Just turning a paysite into a tube shows that the people running it have no creativity and just following the pack... It's short term thinking.. Maybe turning the paysite into a "destination" where there's a reason to stay on it, click around, "explore" would be a better route... You can still supply a bunch of content in "tube" format but give them a different type of experience.. If you just turn your paysite into a tube, there's no reason to join at all since you're now directly competing with every other tube out there and it's free content. The site blends in as opposed to standing out... Think freeones as opposed to pornhub/youporn etc.

I thought that marketing genius Jstyles was working for them?
No?

I've promoted ZTOD for quite a while. Every check has been paid on time and cashed easily without incident. People who run to GFY with bogus 'alarms' make it harder for good companies to do business and harder for bad companies to be outed. If I were ZTOD I'd send you that 175 as your last check and cancel your affiliate account. If it were 175K I'd understand the panic, but for 175, if they have been emailing you to resolve it, why try to put a scare in other affiliates when there are so many other much bigger fish to fry elsewhere... :2 cents:

When you consider that in fashion, trends usually start in obsure or previously unrelated places, the trends are adapted by top designers who sell them at boutiques in NYC/Paris/Milan, then the high end department stores like Bergdorf, then middle class dep stores like Macy's, and then finally at Wal Mart as a poor man's version of the original trend as new trends are becoming all the rage, does it really surprise you that Pimproll turned a paysite into a tube in October 2011?

Yeah, so true about ZTOD. I think I may have even once had a check come early!

With that being said, there does exist a culture of unaccountability amongst sponsors, so I think it's perfectly acceptable to take things public if you are ignored while making a legitimate attempt at resolving the problem so long as you know that there's a chance you might be wrong in which case you will have to publicly admit your error and apologize. Two things which require adult-like traits,

In the same sense, money is money whether it be $1 or $1 million and with so many programs going under or going through changes, it's sensible for affiliates to diversify their efforts, so unless you're familiar with someone entire site portfolio and the traffic that it generates as a whole, it's best to just assume you know nothing and proceed as such. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh

Are you fucking kidding me? Who said it was bogus? The check bounced, i got no restitution yet, so gfy fool...

I've got response from them tonight so waiting for the resolution...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :2 cents:

These guys are major sponsors. I don't believe they are having any problems. My check cleared the other day as do all checks from them and I get a lot of them.

what does creativity have to do with making money? We are a business we aren't artists...

If apple halted production on ipods to make coloured paper mache hats how fast would their stock fall?

Clement still no answer...???

bro's before checks ......

Sadly, the stock would probably rise, because fanboys would have to own the $400 paper mache hats. :disgust

Just an update since NHunter decided to make it public.

His check got returned because it wasn't endorsed, so it was 100% his fault. He also decided to post after he got an email from us asking for more information, and I guess you didnt like that.

On top of that now, he's asking us now to pay for the bounce fee - usually we would totally pay it but I really wonder why we should. We also tried to send you 8 wires to 3 different names , 2 different countries and 2 different banks the past few months and they all bounced.

Just to confirm, we have funds in our accounts, we're not going anywhere and we take care of all our affiliates and we always make sure you get paid ;)

yeah we get it. he hired you at some point.

Thankfully I have been hired by plenty of companies in the adult market. I operate review sites and other affiliate sites that have sent sales to literally 100s of paysites sponsors. I also own my own paysite network and have seen first hand what this business is like from the 'other side' of the equation.

There are some really great companies to work with, and some really terrible ones out there as well. I hate seeing the bad ones praised and I hate seeing the good ones unnecessarily hassled. Feel free to check all my posts. You won't find a single one where I 'stood up' for a bad company or 'went after' a good company.

Going after a good company is just as bad as standing up for a bad one because it muddies the waters and makes it harder for webmasters to identify who is worth working with and who is not. Failing to endorse a check and then trashing a company on GFY with false claims is not something sponsors OR other webmasters ought to tolerate. :2 cents:

I never said u guys didnt pay or anything but i ve been receiving checks for 10 years already and never signed a single one, so how is it my fault the check got bounced...???
Did u tell me before sending it your bank has this policy???

youre supposed to endorse all checks i thought...

Just to make sure we're all on the same page do you mean endorsed as in you the affiliate didn't sign the check or as in the sponsor didn't sign the face of the check?

sign your checks moron.

I didnt sign as affiliate but im in Canada and i dont sign any other checks and the only ztod check got bounced, thats why was concerned...

I guess i will sign all the checks now, i hope that was the only reason though...

There have been a handful of times where I haven't endorsed a check. The bank endorsed it for me. Tellers even have a special stamp for that.

Not saying it wasn't returned because of that, its just the first i've ever heard of it.

I guess it could be a cultural difference so maybe you didn't know. But in my opinion (and I'm no ass kisser) this is your fault and you should consider apologizing for posting this. This isn't their fault this time.

My point exactly...

You dont know what u talking about so please...