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jimmycooper 10-31-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18526394)
what does creativity have to do with making money? We are a business we aren't artists...

If apple halted production on ipods to make coloured paper mache hats how fast would their stock fall?

Wow. I can honestly say that even after having been sucked into a few Paul Markham threads and various other ridiculous threads, that this may have been the single dumbest thing I have ever read on GFY. Unbelievable. I don't know who you are and I don't promote Pimproll, but for the sake of Pimproll affiliates and Pimproll employees, I really hope you are no more than an intern or low level employee because your post suggests that you have absolutely no understanding of business whatsoever. My gods. I really am shocked. Amazing. If you've at least somehow managed to earn a high school diploma, I highly, highly suggest that you take a couple business classes at the local community college. Even if you quit after only one or two classes, I promise that you'll be better off than you are now. Way better off. Presuming, of course, that you do have the ability to learn.

bobby666 10-31-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DlxClem (Post 18526762)
Just to confirm, we have funds in our accounts, we're not going anywhere and we take care of all our affiliates and we always make sure you get paid ;)

things i can only agree for the last 10 years! i've made my first steps into adult by building a deluxepass site and never had ANY issue with the payments of deluxepass and videosz- all in time over the years and i always got great support by you, Clemens
So its time to say Thank YOU

Relentless 10-31-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18527211)
Interesting, have you ever personally "stood up" and went after a bad company? Meaning, your opinion would be much more valid if you did, instead looking like a kiss ass to try to cover for a company with a possible accounting error.

This thread isn't about me. However to answer your question, it depends what you consider 'stood up' to mean. My review sites were among the first to warn viewers of cross sales on join pages, WebsiteSecure.org only certifies sites with ethical terms and billing practices (and has rejected several sites in the past from mainstream and adult), WebmasterScore.com provides simple reviews of sponsor programs that include information provided directly by the affiliate programs AND allows webmasters to post comments on each review. Those are a few examples.

I have found it to be not really worth my time to try and 'police the internet' so I put very little time into dealing with bad companies. I simply blacklist them and move on. However, I have put a large amount of time and effort into highlighting good companies and providing consumers or webmasters with tools helpful for determining whether a site is worth signing up or not. I have also written dozens of articles for XBIZ, FubarTimes, AVN, Klixxx (back in the day) etc including several that explored the negative aspects of the .XXX TLD. Frankly, I am comfortable with my own stance on these issues and I'm comfortable saying ZTOD has been one of the 'good sponsors' I have worked with for quite a while.

You have a guy who failed to endorse the back of his payout check, starting a thread titled 'ZTOD Check Bounced' and trying to claim it is somehow the sponsor's fault. I see that as just as big a problem with this industry as a sponsor who unduly messes with an affiliate. It works both ways. :2 cents:

signupdamnit 10-31-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NHunter (Post 18527266)
You dont know what u talking about so please...

American banks generally expect the check to be endorsed or to have a stamp such as "For deposit only". It's possible your bank might have taken care of it for you before or else Ztod's bank let it go previous times. But clearly checks can be returned for lack of endorsement when dealing with U.S. Banks.

http://www.ehow.com/info_8016675_cau...ed-checks.html

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Missing Endorsement

You can have a check returned to you because the depositor forgot to endorse it prior to sending it to his bank for deposit. The endorsement goes on the back of a check and is necessary in order to complete the transaction. A missing endorsement will delay the transaction as the check will be mailed back to the original account holder -- you. Your job will be to resend the check to the depositor with a request for him to endorse the check.
There are similar gray areas with lack of a signature from the sponsor. Sometimes it can slip through and the sponsor's bank will honor it for whatever reason but officially they can choose not to honor it if they wish.

It's not Ztod's fault in this case if you or your bank forgot to endorse the check and that was the reason for it being dishonored. That's not to say they still don't have an obligation to pay out on the check ultimately.

anexsia 10-31-2011 02:27 PM

Okay I just read through 3 pages of this thread and..........How fucking hard is it to endorse a check? Make 2 scribble lines and you're good to go! Sheesh.

Lichen 10-31-2011 02:41 PM

Case closed, Ztod is obviously a stand-up company, not sure why my bank rejected the check, they wont say the reason, I'll sign a new check they sent me and update this thread if anybody interested, peace.

Eyeball 10-31-2011 02:56 PM

You've just made yourself look a cunt and gained nothing.

Lichen 10-31-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Eyeball (Post 18527694)
You've just made yourself look a cunt and gained nothing.

Go smoke more crack idiot.

Tempest 10-31-2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18526394)
what does creativity have to do with making money? We are a business we aren't artists...

If apple halted production on ipods to make coloured paper mache hats how fast would their stock fall?

Creativity was what propelled Apple from a company that was failing to what it is now. Creativity and innovation is what makes a company stand out, grow and have more potential than one that just follows the pack.

You guys have the resources to do fantastic things.. Turning porn.com into a tube says that you have no idea what to do with everything you have. It says you have no plan, no idea where you're going, no innovative ideas etc.

Jel 10-31-2011 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18527613)
Okay I just read through 3 pages of this thread

Tell me, future boy, who is the President of the United States in 1985?

Or words to that effect ;)

And it case the humour doesn't come through, I'm just playin' :)

jimmycooper 10-31-2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 18527893)
Creativity was what propelled Apple from a company that was failing to what it is now. Creativity and innovation is what makes a company stand out, grow and have more potential than one that just follows the pack.

You guys have the resources to do fantastic things.. Turning porn.com into a tube says that you have no idea what to do with everything you have. It says you have no plan, no idea where you're going, no innovative ideas etc.

Not only that, but creativity or lack thereof has a direct effect on the entire way in which a company is set up, how a company is run, and how a company allocates it's resources. No creativity = paying too much tax. No creativity = thinking you are creative when you launch midget porn site #17. No creativity = getting raped by vendors. No creativity = perpetually several steps behind the competition. No creativity = Pimproll being acquired by another company 18-24 months from now for less than the appraised value of porn.com because the buyer will take on a huge mess wrought on by a lack of creativity over the years. I mean, why buy now when you can have them and their lack creativity essentially work for you for the next year and a half by driving down the price?

Relentless 10-31-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18527475)
'Random Comments that demonstrate you did not read my reply...'

Your decision to ignore what I wrote in reply while you continue to disagree, even though my reply directly answered your comments, has been duly noted. :2 cents:

ruff 10-31-2011 06:11 PM

Fucked thread. Ztod is owed an apology. Anyone anywhere tried to walk into any bank and cash a check without endorsing it? Of course not. Maybe you can deposit it and get away with it a few times and then the bank fucks you. Out the fucking bank not Ztod.

jimmycooper 10-31-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 18528628)
Fucked thread. Ztod is owed an apology. Anyone anywhere tried to walk into any bank and cash a check without endorsing it? Of course not. Maybe you can deposit it and get away with it a few times and then the bank fucks you. Out the fucking bank not Ztod.

I would also like an apology from the OP as he is now the cunt that ruined my Saturday late afternoon/early evening,

Theo 10-31-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NHunter (Post 18527642)
Case closed, Ztod is obviously a stand-up company, not sure why my bank rejected the check, they wont say the reason, I'll sign a new check they sent me and update this thread if anybody interested, peace.


yes it is. ZTOD affiliates shouldn't worry.


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