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12clicks 11-01-2011 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 18527938)
No they start with your website. If you do it again you loose your "privilage" to access the internet.

Contrary to what you believe this bill will not be used to catch only the big guys who actualy make money with stealing stuff. But will be used against people like you and me.
I dont think it is stealing music if they force it dwn your throath on radio comercials and stuff like that.
And yes i did throw away my tv and radio cause i do not even want to listen their music.
But i do not think their crap can be a reason to shut down websites and youtube accounts.

you and me?

son, I don't steal music or video. if you do, you're a thief. don't group yourself with the rest of us.

Nautilus 11-01-2011 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18529149)
At a minimum, this means that any service that hosts user generated content is going to be under enormous pressure to actively monitor and filter that content. That?s a huge burden

Oh noes... What an oppressive burden it is to actually check what's going on at your fucking site. That's so fucking hard OMG the sky is falling what those evil obsolete outdated copyright holders want from us. It's their duty to produce content for us and then to police our sites too and do all other dirty ground work for us, while we should only be creative and innovative meaning we're entitled to enjoy free content created by other people and we aren't going to spent a minute of our precious time to respect the rights of people who actually created the content that made our "innovative" services worth a shit to surfers.

Yawn. Same old song we've been hearing over and over again for years.

Speaking of huge and unnecessary burdens, have any of you free shit lovers ever tried to police literally dozens of thousands of piracy sites that post links to stolen content? Do you know what kind of burden it is? Do you know how astronomically huge piracy numbers are and that no copyright holder will not be able to check 1/10th of it in his entire lifetime? Now THAT'S the burden, but of course it is OK because it's them evil obsolete copyright holders have to do it. Save God some brilliant innovative kid that is scheming new youtube in his garage is forced to do it. That's the end of the world. No more innovation. Oppression and totalitarism. But of course.

DamianJ 11-01-2011 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 18529513)
Oh noes... What an oppressive burden it is to actually check what's going on at your fucking site.

Probably not for your sites, but for popular ones it would be obscenely massive. Twitter, Facebook, tumblr, linked in, any forum, any email, etc etc.


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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 18529513)
Speaking of huge and unnecessary burdens, have any of you free shit lovers ever tried to police literally dozens of thousands of piracy sites that post links to stolen content? Do you know what kind of burden it is? Do you know how astronomically huge piracy numbers are and that no copyright holder will not be able to check 1/10th of it in his entire lifetime? Now THAT'S the burden,

Don't bother doing it then. It's a waste of time and achieves nothing. At least I've never seen a SHRED of evidence that wasting that time increases sales.

And for the record, I am not in favour of piracy, but I am against stupidity. There is a difference.

Anyway, this will never get passed, so meh. Carry on posting how you think it's gonna end piracy if it makes you feel better about the time you are wasting trying to win an unwinnable fight.

DamianJ 11-01-2011 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18529419)
A trip to Thailand isn't cheap.

Flight, hotel, etc. A decent trip to Thailand is a $4,000-$5,000 holiday.

Quite a lot more than that for 3 weeks. I know you only went to the places people that like sex with young girls went, but I am going a little more upmarket than that.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18529419)
Who thinks Damian can earn enough to pay for it by his "Marketing" skills alone?

Not me.

No, I am making tshirts with your face on and the quote from you saying you think teachers must have an iron will to avoid fucking 15 year olds and I am selling them on the internet. Making a fucking MINT mate. A MINT!


:)

DamianJ 11-01-2011 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18529402)
Are you earning from piracy, are you a pirate?

No, do you want to fuck 15 year olds?

Paul Markham 11-01-2011 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 18529513)
Oh noes... What an oppressive burden it is to actually check what's going on at your fucking site. That's so fucking hard OMG the sky is falling what those evil obsolete outdated copyright holders want from us. It's their duty to produce content for us and then to police our sites too and do all other dirty ground work for us, while we should only be creative and innovative meaning we're entitled to enjoy free content created by other people and we aren't going to spent a minute of our precious time to respect the rights of people who actually created the content that made our "innovative" services worth a shit to surfers.

Terrible burden. A burden legit companies have to carry out all the time. We have to check models are legal, get them to sign paper work. Then when we sell the license, customers have to check the license, check the IDs, check the model release. To make sure it's all legal.

Now those taking "User generated" content have to do the same. How will they manage. :1orglaugh

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Speaking of huge and unnecessary burdens, have any of you free shit lovers ever tried to police literally dozens of thousands of piracy sites that post links to stolen content? Do you know what kind of burden it is? Do you know how astronomically huge piracy numbers are and that no copyright holder will not be able to check 1/10th of it in his entire lifetime? Now THAT'S the burden, but of course it is OK because it's them evil obsolete copyright holders have to do it. Save God some brilliant innovative kid that is scheming new youtube in his garage is forced to do it. That's the end of the world. No more innovation. Oppression and totalitarism. But of course.
Do you think pirates and those living off piracy give a shit about our burdens? No they want the freedom of no burdens and no laws.

Paul Markham 11-01-2011 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18529533)
Quite a lot more than that for 3 weeks. I know you only went to the places people that like sex with young girls went, but I am going a little more upmarket than that.

Seems strange this guy.

http://vimeo.com/13411050

http://vimeo.com/8079940

https://youtube.com/user/pornbeer.../0/i_OUuofhtUY

Dresses like a tramp, lives in a dump and doesn't impress with his sites or marketing. Yet terrified that pirates might get stopped. Can afford an expensive holiday to Thailand. *Strange*

SmutHammer 11-01-2011 08:33 AM

I have no issue with paying for my music, movie's, porn etc.

Barry-xlovecam 11-01-2011 08:36 AM

Read: (D) INTERNET ADVERTISING SERVICES.—
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/...0HR%203261.pdf

This bill dies in committee or on the floor — the search engines and advertisers will kill it ...

Paul Markham 11-01-2011 08:37 AM

Seriously there is no burden.

They disable the "User Submitted" tools and only allow those who are known and trusted. Facebook, Twitter, etc will survive as a message service. Text is fine unless it libel. Then the poster is liable. Linking to an image not stored on your server is fine, or the post office and telephone companies might be in trouble.

Youtube will need a rethink. they might give accounts to ABC, NBC, MGM, etc. Joe Soap can't upload a video of his own choice unless it's checked.

Life will continue. Unless a large part of your income comes from piracy or off piracy, like advertising on a piracy site or processing for a piracy site. Life for them will get harder.

For those who get free entertainment or programs. They might find life a bit tougher.

The bands might not have to go on the road to make a living and can go into the studio and concentrate on the music. Knowing it won't be stolen and given away for free.

One man's burden is another man's lighter load. Just turning the tables.

Paul Markham 11-01-2011 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18529588)
Read: (D) INTERNET ADVERTISING SERVICES.?
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/...0HR%203261.pdf

This bill dies in committee or on the floor ? the search engines and advertisers will kill it ...

:2 cents:

You don't think those losing out to piracy are fighting for this to happen?

SE might like it. It means the advertisers might have more money to spend or there could be more advertisers.

It will happen. The only question is how and when. Governments lose too much in tax to let it carry on.

Nautilus 11-01-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18529528)
Probably not for your sites, but for popular ones it would be obscenely massive. Twitter, Facebook, tumblr, linked in, any forum, any email, etc etc.

They earn proportionally more and should be able to hire additional staff or implement relevant tech. If they do not earn enough money to do that, it's their problem how to monetize their traffic.

But how hard it actually is to police even a huge site? Not that hard actually. Here are a few simple steps:

1. Implement DFP. That will stop infringment cold for all content that is registered in the database. Does not require more staff at all, works automatically.

2. Ban repeat infringers and delete ALL of their uploads upon recieving X number of valid DMCAs from trusted copyright holders. That works very well too because there are usually relatively few uploaders that are responsible for most of the copyright infringement. Ban them and your piracy numbers will be reduced a great deal in an instant.

3. Do not encourage piracy in any form. Make sure to make it clear for surfers that you have zero tolerance policy for that kinda shit and you'll kill their account with everything that was in it no matter if some of the uploaded files might be legal. That serves as the great deterrent and makes surfers think twice before stealing shit.

4. Do not reward uploaders in any form, unless they're proven copyright holders. Since many uploaders do it for money, cutting them their income immediatly discourages them from pirating shit.

5. Use "report abuse" buttons to engage community in finding infringments. With that you get huge additional task force that is very effective and totally free for you.

6. Use stricter registration procedures, such as phone verification. That will serve as the great deterrent too.

How hard is it to implement any of the above? Not hard at all, and it all costs either peanuts or nothing at all, even for a big site. So when piracy singers bitch and moan about those impossible "burdens" they are just lieing as always. Getting rid of piracy is not the matter of any impossible burden, it is only a question of whether you really WANT to do that or not. With SOPA in effect, all UCG sites will suddenly WANT to get rid of piracy for real (because their half assed attempts that they're demonstrating today will not fly in courts anymore), and they'll surely be able to do that.

AzteK 11-01-2011 08:54 AM

Here is more information on it:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h3261:

DamianJ 11-01-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18529571)
Seems strange this guy.



Boasts his friends say he shouldn't be a teacher in case he can't control himself and rapes them, says teachers need an iron will to avoid fucking the children they teach and despite claiming to have made millions has to live on invalidity benefit and send his wife out to work as a PA despite her years of experience as a progressional shooter and the person who actually ran a business. :(

*creepy*

I'll say! :D :D :D :D

Funny thing is, you are malicious lying without any shred of evidence to back up your libel. Whereas you actually said everything I am posting about you.

Someone told me once you sexually assaulted someone working for you. Is that true too?

Frank21 11-01-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18529439)
you and me?

son, I don't steal music or video. if you do, you're a thief. don't group yourself with the rest of us.

oeiiii now i have done it, i have upset 1 of the BigBoys did i?
a BigBoy with a PR2 affiliate program wow OMG you must be rich.
With a 60/40 revenue program because no one wants to advertise yuor boring shit.
Go on keep blaming the piracy, and the tubes, and the teenages who upload to tubes, and the jews etc etc but the only real reason that you will never be successfull is because you are boring lame ass and unable to be adapt to new circumstances.

:321GFY

DamianJ 11-01-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 18529606)
Getting rid of piracy is not the matter of any impossible burden, it is only a question of whether you really WANT to do that or not.

Why do you think, since the invention of the printing press, it's not been stopped then?

It is utterly, uncategorically impossible to stop piracy. Not even worth debating if you think it is.

SOPA is not about stopping piracy. And certainly not about stopping porn piracy. It's about control.

SmutHammer 11-01-2011 09:49 AM

the internet needs some control, if someone steals my tv from my house is that ok?

DWB 11-01-2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18529347)
We WILL do it for them??


We are already in the process and moving along on that just fine.

Yep. We will destroy ourselves. Working hard at it now.

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18529352)
A very simple way to deal with Piracy is to make the Registrars and hosts take care of it. X number of DMCA's and the domain and hosting are suspendid.

:2 cents:

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18529359)
Yeah, good idea. No need for any processes. Just confiscate domains as you see fit. That is going to end well.

http://www.infoworld.com/t/regulatio...child-porn-966

No need to confiscate anything. Just terminate accounts after X amount of undisputed DMCAs.

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18529583)
I have no issue with paying for my music, movie's, porn etc.

:2 cents:

I don't understand what went wrong where people thought they deserved everything for free. If you like it, buy it. If you steal it, you're a thief. And if you are a thief it, so be it. Just claim and and say you are. Don't dance around it with fair use, public domain, or time shifting excuses.

onedree 11-01-2011 09:52 AM

http://i.imgur.com/UHeFp.jpg

DWB 11-01-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18529630)
It is utterly, uncategorically impossible to stop piracy. Not even worth debating if you think it is.

SOPA is not about stopping piracy. And certainly not about stopping porn piracy. It's about control.

Stop it... it will never happen.

Having the power to actually do something about it legally if someone is caught doing it... it will happen eventually. The more who are caught, the less people will do it. Of course it will never stop everyone, but it will curb a lot of it, especially if they start taking domains.

onedree 11-01-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18529630)
It is utterly, uncategorically impossible to stop piracy. Not even worth debating if you think it is.

I fully agree ...
Even though you resemble a feminine non-facial hair twink ...

DamianJ 11-01-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by onedree (Post 18529812)
Even though you resemble a feminine non-facial hair twink ...

I'd make a much more convincing tranny than you then Marion.

http://media.lawrence.com/img/photos...cf7613005fe067

http://www2.ljworld.com/photos/2005/jun/01/58665/

I mean, look at you! Do you go out dressed in dresses? That'd be a laugh to see. How are they on men that pretend to be women in Kansas?

onedree 11-01-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18529828)

Was that your nephew i just banged in the ass ?
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MarkDeus 11-01-2011 10:24 AM

PornerBros is ready, no illegal content here :thumbsup

onedree 11-01-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PornerBros (Post 18529863)
PornerBros is ready, no illegal content here :thumbsup

A tad to many pop-ups on your webmasters join page :
http://partners.pornerbros.com/

Besides that ... you may have something here ...

DamianJ 11-01-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by onedree (Post 18529832)
Was that your nephew i just banged in the ass ?
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Doubt it. You probably can't get it up anymore. I picture you more as a cocksucker Marion, viz:

https://img.skitch.com/20111101-kq4q...rp6a79j2uh.jpg

onedree 11-01-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18529925)
Doubt it. You probably can't get it up anymore. I picture you more as a cocksucker Marion, viz:

You maybe right ... When was the last time you visited mom ?
Do you keep the grave site fresh with flowers or no ?
What type of cancer did she have ?

Redrob 11-01-2011 11:06 AM

You sure do attract the trolls......maybe, it's the aftershave?

onedree 11-01-2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrob (Post 18530004)
You sure do attract the trolls......maybe, it's the aftershave?

Sorry to hijack your thread Bob ... Damian insists on stirring up the pot by humiliating others in numerous threads ... When the sissy Mary gets bitch slapped back he runs away ...

Maybe it's Damian Jennings attitude which draws the attention ...

Maybe that's why he turned into a dick sucking coward after his mother passed away from cancer which draws the attention towards him ...
One never knows how twinks think once they loose a beloved family member ...

Am I right Damian ?
Wipe the semen off your chin and stand there proud ...

Next time ... Carefully pick who you decide to target okay sugar lips ?
:1orglaugh

onedree 11-01-2011 11:39 AM

Screw it ...
Let's dance ...

Rick James




sicone 11-01-2011 11:53 AM

http://gigaom.com/2011/10/27/looks-l...-the-internet/

This bill plus the E-parasite bill being pushed through will do a lot more then just go after pirates. Read carefully, it gives business's and the government the ability to remove any content/sites that they feel may be harmful to their brand or to the public. Think wiki leaks, any of the anti pay pal sites, sites on 9/11 and even sites about whats going on with the government.

Anything big brother and the corporations funding big brother don't want you to see will be removed... the content, the websites and any traces in search engines along with the ability process payments from users.

Think about it, say you say something negative about the movie you just saw last night and that studio feels you may hurt their profits so they simply snap their fingers and your website is now shut down and belongs to them with no legal hearing or recourse for you.

DamianJ 11-01-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by onedree (Post 18530058)
Next time ... Carefully pick who you decide to target okay sugar lips ?
:1orglaugh

Why, what are you going to do? Make constant homophobic references? Ooooh noes. I am so scared Marion.

onedree 11-01-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18530269)
Why, what are you going to do? Make constant homophobic references? Ooooh noes. I am so scared Marion.

Noooo... Just going to constantly remind you to pay respect to your deceased mother ...
Tell us.. what form of cancer sucked the life out of her ? ...

signupdamnit 11-01-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18530126)
http://gigaom.com/2011/10/27/looks-l...-the-internet/

This bill plus the E-parasite bill being pushed through will do a lot more then just go after pirates. Read carefully, it gives business's and the government the ability to remove any content/sites that they feel may be harmful to their brand or to the public. Think wiki leaks, any of the anti pay pal sites, sites on 9/11 and even sites about whats going on with the government.

Anything big brother and the corporations funding big brother don't want you to see will be removed... the content, the websites and any traces in search engines along with the ability process payments from users.

Think about it, say you say something negative about the movie you just saw last night and that studio feels you may hurt their profits so they simply snap their fingers and your website is now shut down and belongs to them with no legal hearing or recourse for you.

While I certainly don't support what you are speaking of I feel that someone has to go after content pirates like Extreme Board as well as the scumbags who support them by paying them to put up their banner ads. Unfortunately it appears that certain scumbags are unwilling to self-police so someone must do the job for them.

WarChild 11-01-2011 01:13 PM

Eric really likes to dish out punishment for violating the rules about bringing other people's family in to things on the board. Damian, why don't you do everyone a favour and send off a quick email to have Marion removed from the board, again.

onedree 11-01-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18530321)
Eric really likes to dish out punishment for violating the rules about bringing other people's family in to things on the board. Damian, why don't you do everyone a favour and send off a quick email to have Marion removed from the board, again.

He wants to play the game like a hot shot ... :1orglaugh
Everyone else backed off except for this little twink punk ...
NOW he and his little bro club cant handle it ...

http://i.imgur.com/pSrli.jpg

Eric 11-01-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by onedree (Post 18530341)
He wants to play the game like a hot shot ... :1orglaugh
Everyone else backed off except for this little twink punk ...
NOW he and his little bro club cant handle it ...

http://i.imgur.com/pSrli.jpg

goodbye...

Hentaikid 11-01-2011 02:18 PM

It's categorically impossible to get rid of cockroaches too, but that doesn't mean the roach that just sticks around in the middle of your kitchen floor when you turn on the light is indestructible.

RycEric 11-01-2011 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by onedree (Post 18529790)

Don't upload daredorm :1orglaugh

DamianJ 11-01-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 18530407)
goodbye...

http://www.motifake.com/image/demoti...1269740702.jpg


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