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TheDoc 11-03-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18534636)
please go find a job so the adults can talk without being interrupted by your idiocy.

you lie and say there were 1000s of messages then list "Nam war, peace in general, ending the draft," as if they were 3 unique messages.
so out of your 1000s you've actually got 5 if I'm being generous.

please take your idiot "look at me" posts and start your own threads. Because you lack self awareness, you've missed that no one is interested in your thoughts.

Holy shit go use Google you dimwit... and those are are "core" messages I listed moron, like I'm going to list the massive mixture of social messages inside of each core message, like civil rights alone had 1000's of messages.... just the blacks in that movement alone had a mixture... good god, educate yourself, for once in your life.

P.S. The Tea Party has 1000's of mixed messages inside of its 3 core messages.

gleem 11-03-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18534651)
Yes but what about the guy who tries and tries and fails and fails until he can't afford to try anymore? Is he not motivated? Does that mean he is not smart? Or does it mean that its very difficult to break into an already developed market? Its quite hard for an a newbie to compete against those already established. There are loads of variables but at the end of the day there are many very competent people who will just never succeed despite their brains, money, etc.


.[/QUOTE]


People fail, fail, fail, and then succeed, people fail, fail, fail x100 and then succeed, on the flip side people fail, & quit. Of course it's a combination of things...too long to list. The point is the opportunity is there till the day you die and no one said it will be easy, it might be very hard, but people do it despite all the stuff working against them.

Market too hard to break into? Make a new market, innovators, entrepreneurs do it all the time.

There are loads of variables but at the end of the day there are many very competent people who will just never succeed despite their brains, money, etc - exactly, competency & brains don't guarantee success.

12clicks 11-03-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18534709)
Holy shit go use Google you dimwit... and those are are "core" messages I listed moron, like I'm going to list the massive mixture of social messages inside of each core message, like civil rights alone had 1000's of messages.... just the blacks in that movement alone had a mixture... good god, educate yourself, for once in your life.

I did use google.
I even found where you cherry picked your 5 messages.
you didn't list 6 messages because the #1 listing didn't list 6.
son, you can't pretend to be smart by using google. you only THINK you can.
There were not 1000s of messages. if you didn't make such stupid pronouncements, you wouldn't have to spend the rest of the day proving to your betters that you're right, regrdless of how many facts say otherwise.

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18534709)
P.S. The Tea Party has 1000's of mixed messages inside of its 3 core messages.

no it doesn't.
please go find a job so we are saved from your idiocy.

TheSquealer 11-03-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18534634)
So wealth is an infinite thing? I somehow doubt it would be possibly for ever person on the planet to possess 10 million dollars each. At some point, it doesn't work. Your neighbor having a billion dollars doesn't make you poor but the success of facebook for example, made myspace poor. Consumer spending can change directions, can't it? People will sell stocks from one company and invest in another. Wealth is not being created there, just re-directed, isn't it?

So you honestly don't realize that economies grow and that wealth is created?

So, lets think here... here si the growth of income per capita in India.

How do you think that is happening? By Indians in the city stealing money from peasants outside the city?

http://www.economicshelp.org/indian/india-growth.gif

Rochard 11-03-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18534651)
Yes but what about the guy who tries and tries and fails and fails until he can't afford to try anymore? Is he not motivated? Does that mean he is not smart? Or does it mean that its very difficult to break into an already developed market? Its quite hard for an a newbie to compete against those already established. There are loads of variables but at the end of the day there are many very competent people who will just never succeed despite their brains, money, etc.

The world relies on people being so poor in third world countries that they will work for pennies. The world relies on people being mcdonalds workers, garbage pickers, etc. Society wouldn't work if everyone was a millionaire.



my point with zukerberg and rick was that timing played a big part in what they were successful in. Of course i think they could of been successful at other things. although perhaps not quite as successful. Its hard to say but regarding what they are successful for, if not for timing, would be completely different. I just wanted to point out that timing and luck does play some part in success.

Depends on how you look things. If you fail, do you accept that as a complete failure? Or do you dust yourself off and try again?

Anyone can succeed in the US. Some by chance, or timing, and others by hard work and multiple tries. You have some people that go to work at McDonald's and never make manager, but you have others who open up their own franchise and become millionaires.

BlackCrayon 11-03-2011 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18534764)
So you honestly don't realize that economies grow and that wealth is created?

So, lets think here... here si the growth of income per capita in India.

How do you think that is happening? By Indians in the city stealing money from peasants outside the city?

http://www.economicshelp.org/indian/india-growth.gif

Is not a large part of that growth from jobs that were once in the US?

TheDoc 11-03-2011 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18534763)
I did use google.
I even found where you cherry picked your 5 messages.
you didn't list 6 messages because the #1 listing didn't list 6.
son, you can't pretend to be smart by using google. you only THINK you can.
There were not 1000s of messages. if you didn't make such stupid pronouncements, you wouldn't have to spend the rest of the day proving to your betters that you're right, regrdless of how many facts say otherwise.

Only an idiot such as yourself would argue a fact. Let's just add in one other factor, they also protested chemical weapons used in the war, and not the war directly... yet, another twist of the messages you ignore, one of 1000's....

Btw, speaking of strike: Nov 14 and 15 1968 - I think they had other days too, but those strikes started massive change too.


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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18534763)
no it doesn't.
please go find a job so we are saved from your idiocy.

Yeah, keep your hands of out of Medicare, end socialism... or Cap congress, and trade obama back to kenya. That's 2 of 1000's... Lol, Yeah, no mixed messages from the tea party...

12clicks 11-03-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18534845)
Only an idiot such as yourself would argue a fact. Let's just add in one other factor, they also protested chemical weapons used in the war, and not the war directly... yet, another twist of the messages you ignore, one of 1000's....

Btw, speaking of strike: Nov 14 and 15 1968 - I think they had other days too, but those strikes started massive change too.




Yeah, keep your hands of out of Medicare, end socialism... or Cap congress, and trade obama back to kenya. That's 2 of 1000's... Lol, Yeah, no mixed messages from the tea party...

:1orglaugh
no wonder you can't find work.
seriously.

TheDoc 11-03-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18534854)
:1orglaugh
no wonder you can't find work.
seriously.

Lol, says the man that bids on jobs and has been posting on gfy because the weather is bad.

Minte 11-03-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18534845)
Only an idiot such as yourself would argue a fact. Let's just add in one other factor, they also protested chemical weapons used in the war, and not the war directly... yet, another twist of the messages you ignore, one of 1000's....

Btw, speaking of strike: Nov 14 and 15 1968 - I think they had other days too, but those strikes started massive change too.




Yeah, keep your hands of out of Medicare, end socialism... or Cap congress, and trade obama back to kenya. That's 2 of 1000's... Lol, Yeah, no mixed messages from the tea party...

That I don't have to Google..I lived it. And the end result of the protests against Dow,The Army Math Research Center(The War in Vietnam) was the president who had original goals of putting in place as much social justice as he could decided NOT to accept the nomination for reelection. Instead Richard Nixon came in and won in a landslide. The country lost another 30,000 young people over a 4 year period and we ended up with Peace With Honor.


And the race riots.that ended well for the inner cities. After they cleaned up everything they burned and buried the bodies nothing improved. It got worse. Some leftovers from those days formed the Bloods and the Crips and the drive by shooting was invented.

TheDoc 11-03-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18534894)
That I don't have to Google..I lived it. And the end result of the protests against Dow,The Army Math Research Center(The War in Vietnam) was the president who had original goals of putting in place as much social justice as he could decided NOT to accept the nomination for reelection. Instead Richard Nixon came in and won in a landslide. The country lost another 30,000 young people over a 4 year period and we ended up with Peace With Honor.


And the race riots.that ended well for the inner cities. After they cleaned up everything they burned and buried the bodies nothing improved. It got worse. Some leftovers from those days formed the Bloods and the Crips and the drive by shooting was invented.



Only because it's you: http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps...m/antiwar.html

"The antiwar movement actually consisted of a number of independent interests, often only vaguely allied and contesting each other on many issues, united only in opposition to the Vietnam War."



...... and here I thought the gangs / mobs of the 20's and 30's invented the drive by.

12clicks 11-03-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18534872)
Lol, says the man that bids on jobs and has been posting on gfy because the weather is bad.

:1orglaugh
sure, mr. mom

Minte 11-03-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18534922)
Only because it's you: http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps...m/antiwar.html

"The antiwar movement actually consisted of a number of independent interests, often only vaguely allied and contesting each other on many issues, united only in opposition to the Vietnam War."



...... and here I thought the gangs / mobs of the 20's and 30's invented the drive by.

A number..not thousands. The signs people carried obviously were varied. Walmart wasn't selling demonstration signs. But, they all had one message. END THE WAR in Vietnam. Which of course didn't happen.

The mobsters of the 30's did use their cars and Thompson submachine guns, that was business and it was very short lived. The fallout from the inner city race riots have lasted over 40 years and has only gotten worse over time.

TheDoc 11-03-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18534933)
:1orglaugh
sure, mr. mom

Why would taking care of my kids be an insult? I would gladly take care of my kids full time if it was needed.... of course I share that responsibly with my wife.

You must have a pathetic family if you think taking care of your kids is an insult.

12clicks 11-03-2011 12:12 PM

and then there's this. hahahaha
"""""FoxNews.com’s report identified NYCC as a key organizing force behind the Occupy Wall Street protests. Sources within the group also told FoxNews.com NYCC was hiring people to carry signs and join the protests. NYCC -- a nonprofit organization run almost entirely by former ACORN officials and employees --did not reply for comment prior to the publication of the initial article, but later posted a statement on its website dismissing the article and denying that it pays protesters.
A source said that immediately following publication of the FoxNews.com report staff were called into the Brooklyn office for meetings headed by NYCC’s organizing director, Jonathan Westin. Westin handed out copies of the article and went through it line-by-line, the source said.
Staffers were also given copies of photos of Senior Fox News Correspondent Eric Shawn and three other Fox News staff members, including this reporter.
“They reminded us that we can get fired, sued, arrested for talking to the press,” the source said. “Then they went through the article point-by-point and said that the allegation that we pay people to protest isn’t true.”
“‘That’s the story that we’re sticking to,’” Westin said, according to the source.
The source said staffers at the meeting contested Westin’s denial:
“It was pretty funny. Jonathan told staff they don’t pay for protesters, but the people in the meeting who work there objected and said, ‘Wait, you pay us to go to the protests every day?’ Then Jonathan said ‘No, but that’s your job,’ and staffers were like, ‘Yeah, our job is to protest,’ and Westin said, ‘No your job is to fight for economic and social justice. We just send you to protest.’
“Staff said, ‘Yes, you pay us to carry signs.’ Then Jonathan says, ‘That’s your job.’ It went on like that back and forth for a while.”
During the meetings, NYCC Deputy Director Greg Basta provided Westin with the copied photos of Fox News reporters to hand out to staff members, the source said. Basta told staffers they might be asked about the article when out in communities working on campaigns or when calling people by phone, the source said.
“They told us if people bring up the article, we’re supposed to say the source and all the stuff in there came from a disgruntled ex-employee who’s not working with us anymore.”""""""


you see, all of the bad elements are trying to prop up this fake "movement"

12clicks 11-03-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18534980)
Why would taking care of my kids be an insult? I would gladly take care of my kids full time if it was needed.... of course I share that responsibly with my wife.

You must have a pathetic family if you think taking care of your kids is an insult.

loosen your apron, woman. you're getting all wound up :1orglaugh

TheDoc 11-03-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18534945)
A number..not thousands. The signs people carried obviously were varied. Walmart wasn't selling demonstration signs. But, they all had one message. END THE WAR in Vietnam. Which of course didn't happen.

The mobsters of the 30's did use their cars and Thompson submachine guns, that was business and it was very short lived. The fallout from the inner city race riots have lasted over 40 years and has only gotten worse over time.

Well, 1% of 1 million is 10,000, statistically speaking 1% had different ideas. And yes, they did have a core message, just like today.... other than end the war, it's end corruption.

Race riots though, another issue within the issues... many of them, again, not one message, not a single idea, 100's within this single issue.

TheDoc 11-03-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18534992)
loosen your apron, woman. you're getting all wound up :1orglaugh

Damn could you make yourself look like a bigger idiot?

I would proudly take care of my family, kids, cook, clean, 1000% of everything if I ever had to. Only a complete shit stain wouldn't do what is needed for his family.

At lest I have a wife smart enough, successful enough, that one day if "I" wanted that, I could do it.... It must suck for you to have a slave of a wife and a family you wouldn't take care of.

Btw, I can't cook for shit, however, Kristin is a bad ass Chef, dumb ass.

12clicks 11-03-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18535000)
Damn could you make yourself look like a bigger idiot?

I would proudly take care of my family, kids, cook, clean, 1000% of everything if I ever had to. Only a complete shit stain wouldn't do what is needed for his family. Thank goodness I don't have to do that, I guess my family kicks your families ass.

Btw, I can't cook for shit, however, Kristin is a bad ass Chef, dumb ass.

easy woman!
I just find it cute that house wives post on here like they're still in this business.:1orglaugh

grumpy 11-03-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18534082)
some of us identify with the rabble, some of us don't.

It all depends on your station in life.

so far, a tiny group of people refer to themselves as the 99%
What you guys fail to realize is that most of us are not the 99%. The protesters saying it doesn't make it true.

Most of you are already part of the one %. Scary thing is you guys dont even realize it.

TheDoc 11-03-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18535007)
easy woman!
I just find it cute that house wives post on here like they're still in this business.:1orglaugh

Yawn, yep, totally a woman.... keep trying to convince us you're something other than another poser, heck that's what posers do, and that's all you ever do... :1orglaugh

12clicks 11-03-2011 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18535026)
Yawn, yep, totally a woman.... keep trying to convince us you're something other than another poser, heck that's what posers do, and that's all you ever do... :1orglaugh

ouch! :1orglaugh

stocktrader23 11-03-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18534078)

I don't understand this.

We know, we know!

TheDoc 11-03-2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18535031)
ouch! :1orglaugh

Ditto... :1orglaugh

cykoe6 11-03-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18534082)
so far, a tiny group of people refer to themselves as the 99%
What you guys fail to realize is that most of us are not the 99%. The protesters saying it doesn't make it true.


They are not the 99%. They are the bottom 5% of trustafarian Marxists, fake anarchists, drug addicts, petty criminals, homeless people, mental patients, sex offenders and other other assorted trash. The real 99% are busy working and trying to support their families...... they do not have time to camp put in the street, chant simplistic childish slogans and start fires in a pathetic attempt to draw attention to their temper tantrums. These mutts are just spoiled children wanting a bigger allowance from the responsible members of society. :disgust

stocktrader23 11-03-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18535058)
They are not the 99%. They are the bottom 5% of trustafarian Marxists, fake anarchists, drug addicts, petty criminals, homeless people, mental patients, sex offenders and other other assorted trash. The real 99% are busy working and trying to support their families...... they do not have time to camp put in the street, chant simplistic childish slogans and start fires in a pathetic attempt to draw attention to their temper tantrums. These mutts are just spoiled children wanting a bigger allowance from the responsible members of society. :disgust

This is extra hilarious considering who took part in the general strike in Oakland. Do you have any resemblance of a clue at all? Any? :1orglaugh

TheDoc 11-03-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18535058)
They are not the 99%. They are the bottom 5% of trustafarian Marxists, fake anarchists, drug addicts, petty criminals, homeless people, mental patients, sex offenders and other other assorted trash. The real 99% are busy working and trying to support their families...... they do not have time to camp put in the street, chant simplistic childish slogans and start fires in a pathetic attempt to draw attention to their temper tantrums. These mutts are just spoiled children wanting a bigger allowance from the responsible members of society. :disgust

True... and all tea party protesters are racists, unemployed, chumps with anti-american childish slogans as well. :1orglaugh

stocktrader23 11-03-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18535090)
True... and all tea party protesters are racists, unemployed, chumps with anti-american childish slogans as well. :1orglaugh

Do you only use ICQ or is there a chance you have a skype name?

12clicks 11-03-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18535088)
This is extra hilarious considering who took part in the general strike in Oakland. Do you have any resemblance of a clue at all? Any? :1orglaugh

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/201...95_620x350.jpg

note the kid with the socialist shirt in the front row and note the "tax the rich" sign in the back left:
http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_...d_full_600.jpg

stocktrader23 11-03-2011 01:03 PM

The general strike was supported by unions, teachers, nurses, the local police, port workers, multiple businesses in the area and a plethora of others. Thousands marched in support, a few idiots caused trouble and the protesters stepped in to stop them. Big whoop.

stocktrader23 11-03-2011 01:10 PM

I forgot, supported by the city as well.

12clicks 11-03-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18535139)
The general strike was supported by unions, teachers, nurses, the local police, port workers, multiple businesses in the area and a plethora of others. Thousands marched in support, a few idiots caused trouble and the protesters stepped in to stop them. Big whoop.

you got a link to that news or is the media covering it all up?
'cause here in oakland, things seem a little different:
Oakland police arrested more than 80 people in demonstrations after midnight, according to a press release updating the outcome of
overnight protests.
Five civilians and three police officers were injured. Many private businesses and public building were damaged, according to the city.
"Around midnight, a select group of people intent on engaging in illegal activity -- including vandalizing property, lighting fires, and assaulting the police--splintered into smaller groups and spread throughout the area in and around Frank Ogawa Plaza,'' according to the city's press release.
"The Oakland Police Department responded to a late-night call that protesters had broken into and occupied a downtown building and set several fires. Several private and municipal buildings sustained heavy vandalism. Dozens of protesters wielding shields were surrounded and arrested."
The crowd estimate was pegged at 7,000 when the crowd shut down operations at the port.
"Crews from the City of Oakland's Public Works Agency worked through the night to board up broken windows and doors, clear debris, remove graffiti, pick up litter, and secure damaged buildings in the downtown area, particularly around Frank Ogawa Plaza,," according to the citys update.
" Public Works crews have been redirected today to facilitate clean-up efforts. The City's priority is to return downtown Oakland to a more functional status as soon as possible. The City is assessing damage to downtown businesses."
12:30 p.m. Anti-vandalism proposal to go to full camp meeting
Campers have reached an anti-vandalism consensus and will likely return to how to stop the vandals at tonight's 6 p.m. general assembly for a vote. They are currently voting on when/how to apologize to business owners.
Milani, a camper who did not want to give a last name, spoke against apologizing to businesses. She said it wasn't just outsiders committing vandalism.
"The person I saw putting toilet paper up, they're a facilitator at the general assembly. The person spray painting, they're on the events committee."

Robbie 11-03-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18534033)
This energy could turn over Congress in 2012, but they would need to get started on it now. Primaries are soon.

I have a feeling that this movement is designed to NOT turn over Congress. Keep the same bunch of crooks in there by turning attention away from Washington, DC

Classic diversionary tactic.

"GET THOSE BANKS AND WALL STREET! THEY GOT BAILED OUT!!!"

Just don't pay attention to the politicians (crooks) who did the Bailing Out.

I can't believe how many people still think that ANY politician is on their side. Liberals scream about the "poor". Well...Bill Clinton was in my opinion a great president. And he was a liberal. Yet...he had 8 years in office, and there were still millions of poor people.

Now Obama has been in office for 3 years (GEORGE WASHINGTON only served FOUR) and we just had a report today that there are more people in the U.S. who are officially part of the "poorest of the poor" than ever before.

Sounds like somebodies economic policies aren't working. Sounds like the federal govt. greed and corruption has finally caught up to it.

And yet somehow...the politicians in Washington DC are so slick that they have deflected all blame from themselves and have a protest movement full of left leaning ideologues who want to tax us MORE and give those crooks in Washington even MORE money to steal and give to their friends. :disgust

TheDoc 11-03-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18535095)
Do you only use ICQ or is there a chance you have a skype name?

Shoot me an email webmaster.skills at gmail - I use skype for my other business, I try not to mix them too much on here.

cykoe6 11-03-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18535167)
And yet somehow...the politicians in Washington DC are so slick that they have deflected all blame from themselves and have a protest movement full of left leaning ideologues who want to tax us MORE and give those crooks in Washington even MORE money to steal and give to their friends. :disgust


Somehow the OWS useful idiots have been convinced that the only answer to big government corruption is an even bigger government. :1orglaugh

D Ghost 11-03-2011 01:19 PM

I don't think taking the port was to teach the people that work there a lesson.

Also, I think the occupy movement rightly puts the focus on the economic institutions rather than on the politicians who are merely their lackeys.

crockett 11-03-2011 01:22 PM

The funnest thing about these 12clicks rants on OWS, is he seems to think he is in the 1%. At best maybe in the upper 25% but he sure is hell isn't tippin wine glasses with any of the 1% that this is about.

He is no different than the average trailer trash Republican that votes for the right despite that they do nothing for him. At least the Left throws the average person including 12clicks a bone every once in a while.

The reality is I don't think anyone really cares how much anyone makes in regards to the OWS movement.. It's about the corporate greed that is killing the middle class, not some billionaire fan boy club.

12clicks 11-03-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18535183)
The funnest thing about these 12clicks rants on OWS, is he seems to think he is in the 1%. At best maybe in the upper 25% but he sure is hell isn't tippin wine glasses with any of the 1% that this is about.

He is no different than the average trailer trash Republican that votes for the right despite that they do nothing for him. At least the Left throws the average person including 12clicks a bone every once in a while.

welcome home, little boy.

the FUNNIEST thing about my threads is that you rushed home from work to post in them.
tell us, little one, how was work? did the mean boss make you work hard again today?:1orglaugh

cykoe6 11-03-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18535088)
This is extra hilarious considering who took part in the general strike in Oakland. Do you have any resemblance of a clue at all? Any? :1orglaugh


I am sorry if I left out the public employee union agitators. I had intended to cover them when I said "other assorted trash". Sorry if I was unclear. :winkwink:

12clicks 11-03-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 18535178)
I don't think taking the port was to teach the people that work there a lesson.

Also, I think the occupy movement rightly puts the focus on the economic institutions rather than on the politicians who are merely their lackeys.

how exactly is the port holding down the 99% again?


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