Day 48 - Almost 50 Days Since OWS Began...
 

OWS Protests Growing...150 Paranoid Right-Wingers Meltdown :thumbsup

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Someone has a lot of time on his hands...Must be raining outside (roofers holiday). :winkwink:

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It is 6:37 am on the jersey time.... wakey wakey, time for some roofing

facebook made myspace worthless. had there been no facebook or other suitable competitor, i'm sure they would of been worth a lot more. they were buggy and had other problems but it was valued a lot higher before facebook became popular.

The growing gap between ceo pay and the average workers pay represents the growing gap between the rich and the 'middle' class. Which is growing very fast and increasing almost yearly.

Otta love the dedication to wake up early, rush to your computer, and make a post to seem relevant in a business you washed out of.
Have a nice day at work! (in whatever job you've fallen to):thumbsup

Hen go become a CEO?
I mean what's your point exactly, that you deserve CEO pay for being a porn affiliate?
Or is it that, having made the poor choice of porn affiliate, you're envious of those who made the right choice to become a CEO?

Poor choices HAVE never and WILL never be rewarded.

I wonder when OWS protests will go after professional sports, music and entertainment people. Their paydays are growing a lot faster too.

seriously blackcrayon, show us you're not just some punk kid with an out of touch, warped view of the world and answer my question.

i think there is still some confusion as to who the 1% club actually is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_family
here are some members.

no one in the industry belongs...not even ron from ccbill makes enough...sorry but no one here makes enough or has enough power to belong.

no one here lobbys government and has politicians on the pay roll.

and i highly doubt anyone here even knows a 1%er...so for you to claim you do Gleem is somewhat hilarious.

tell me which CEO from a fortune 50 company do you know and befriend? which major bank CEO is your buddy?
which oil or nuclear plant owner do you hang out with and watch them build mansions?

which of the founding familys do you visit?

I thought it had nothing to do with money and was all about power?

See, now we're all confused.

yes, you are confused. Each of us is entitled to believe whatever he wants and now we have your BELIEF.

at high enough amounts i wasn't aware there was a difference between money and power ;)

we are all entitled to believe whatever we want.

some can only believe in the small box they exist in.

others look outside that box

where do you look?

Myspace was dying before Facebook
Friendster was dying before Myspace
Xanga was dying before Friendster

etc

etc

etc

Unreal, you really do seem to be somewhat communist in your thinking and really do seem to believe that anyones success comes at the cost of anothers.

i watched an interesting experiment last night that explains the actions of some here.

in the experiment people were told by an authority figure to zap a man with electricity, in ever increasing voltages, when he answered some questions incorrectly. Since they were told it was for science by an authority figure, almost all of them went ahead with it and zapped the man.

only 1 person, a female, said no, it was enough, and she didn't buy into the experiment anymore. 1/11 i believe. sadly when extrapolated to the general public and indeed specifically some here. i think that ratio would fall way down.


enjoy the clown show folks, cause it is all you are allowed to see.

No, many are saying that even somebody that makes as little as $50k yearly could be part of the 1% due to the power they hold.

They dont cut thousands of jobs and give themselves raises and bonuses at the same time.

It has nothing to do with tax brackets - money wise.

Money = Power

350k a year or millions != Power

Rather impossible to confuse this with any basic logic applied.

look up to my posst about the experiment.

no one hold power at that level.

they are all peons reacting to whoever told them what to do

this is all proven science and the germans used this in world war 2 to control their populace and get them to go along with their crazy schemes.

there are very few people who actually understand power enough to control it.

They buy and sell nobodies like you for breakfast, making billions before the day starts, while little pissants like you pretend to be one of them, it's rather funny. We know you believe you're part of them, lol... that's what makes it so damn funny.

certainly not inside of your box. I'm not afraid or do I go looking for mythical boogie men

limited power...they have power over their gardener...that is about all..lol


but give people here a chance...they will confuse it for sure.

right now someone is probably typing up an insult directed towards me....zinger!!!

oh dont worry...i know you are not viewing the world the same way i am

press the buzzer ron...its for science!!!

who are the mythical boogie men you are referring to?

i don't recall bringing up anything mythical nor supernatural....sorry.

I did not say that wealth is infinite. Please re-read my post. The POTENTIAL wealth that can be created is infinite, and every time that a new product, or service, is created, or improved, new value, i.e. new wealth, is created.

The success of facebook did not "make myspace poor". First of all understand that all companies are composed of people, they do not create themselves. How much money was earned by the creators, and the employees, of myspace? That money didn't disappear when it was no longer profitable. It may NO LONGER be generating revenue, but that does not discount the wealth that it created before a better product came along.

As for the transfer of your investment holdings from one stock to another, you're right, that is not creating wealth. I never said that every activity involving the movement of funds does that. HOWEVER, the reason why you decide to buy that first stock is that you believe that the company you are investing in will be able to successfully use that money to create more and better, products and services, and therefore create more wealth, which you will be able to share in, since you helped get them the capital they needed to do it. That you decide to later sell that stock and buy another is simply a transfer of your capital for the same original reason.

I have poured all kinds of money into various projects over the years, in essence, I "bought stock" in them. Some failed completely, and I lost everything I had put into them. Since they failed to come up with a product or service that the market (i.e. free consumers/clients), did not place a high enough value on, no new value was created, therefore no new wealth was created. The projects which did create value in the market, created wealth for me. Some of them are no longer creating wealth, but that doesn't mean I don't have the money, (or the objects and services I traded the money for), that I earned from that project.



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I believe I'm part of the Rockefellers?
no, woman, you're deluded.
I'm just not one of the out of work, bottom feeding trolls that make up the group you're a part of.
:thumbsup

just because I'm not part of the rabble, doesn't mean I think I'm a Rockefeller.

bitter little girl.

Brad, we get it. you support ows and think the rockefellers are to blame for what they're complaining about.
I don't.
you pretend to be cerebral and a true thinker looking outside the box because you side with a bunch of losers looking for a free ride.
Its ok.
I simply don't agree with you.
one of us is right.
In the end however, the rabble protesting will NEVER succeed in this world no matter what is handed to them.
They are the least of us.

have a great day Ron, im going to spend most of the day in a meeting, and then playing with my two sons...i want more from my experience on this planet, not just my own personal victories.

I agree. look at how you've all been lead to believe that the successful are this country's real problem.

too bad you have a meeting. I'd love to hear you explain what more you want.

It's easy to pretend to be outside the box and say such useless generalizations as "i want more from my experience on this planet, not just my own personal victories."

Not all of the time but yes, it does happen. Look at the big 3 american auto makers. The success of asian auto comapanies and the big 3's lack of innovation made them almost crumble into nothing. Wealth is created but more often than not it seems to be re-directed. Something comes up and replaces something else and so on. The ipod and mp3's made cd manufacters hurt..you can go on and on. Its almost hard to name any product that didn't make another products sales suffer in some way.

lets take your comment apart, i have another 20 minutes to waste before leaving.

Success does not imply you are one of the "boogie men" to use your terminology.
You and i both know many people who are successful, compared to most people we know we are probably considered successful.

i however have a different view on what success means.
i do subscribe to the most toys wins...i actively pursue wealth as a means of bettering myself and my family. However wealth is not the end goal. I desire wealth so that i can share my good fortune. So i can help others. So i can try to make a better world for my children to grow up in. I firmly believe that giving will bring you more. So some may say i'm actually selfish as i only try to help or be nice so i can further my own goals.
Be that as it may, at least i am not wallowing around in my wine and spitting at those who you would deem as below "you".


that is all...i go now...meeting today on how to control an industry with some people

lol

You seem to be confusing a business with an economy. if there is a town with one hardware store, clearly another can come in and run it out of business. In terms of an economy, economies grow and wealth is created. It is not redistributed as you continue to suggest, it is created and the size of the economy grows because there is steadily more winning than losing. There is always going to be winners and losers in a free market. That doesn't mean that an economy is a zero sum system, because it isn't.

it is probably easier to laugh at others, and enjoy their misfortunes...even wallow in it.

ok now i really have to go...lol

trade jabs with you monday

9am sharp..lol

Apparently you missed my post, so I will re-post it.

I did not say that wealth is infinite. Please re-read my post. The POTENTIAL wealth that can be created is infinite, and every time that a new product, or service, is created, or improved, new value, i.e. new wealth, is created.

The success of facebook did not "make myspace poor". First of all understand that all companies are composed of people, they do not create themselves. How much money was earned by the creators, and the employees, of myspace? That money didn't disappear when it was no longer profitable. It may NO LONGER be generating revenue, but that does not discount the wealth that it created before a better product came along. That wealth still exists. It wasn't taken back out of the personal accounts by consumers and handed to someone else.

As for the transfer of your investment holdings from one stock to another, you're right, that is not creating wealth. I never said that every activity involving the movement of funds does that. HOWEVER, the reason why you decide to buy that first stock is that you believe that the company you are investing in will be able to successfully use that money to create more and better, products and services, and therefore create more wealth, which you will be able to share in, since you helped get them the capital they needed to do it. That you decide to later sell that stock and buy another is simply a transfer of your capital for the same original reason.

I have poured all kinds of money into various projects over the years, in essence, I "bought stock" in them. Some failed completely, and I lost everything I had put into them. Since they failed to come up with a product or service that the market (i.e. free consumers/clients), did not place a high enough value on, no new value was created, therefore no new wealth was created. The projects which did create value in the market, created wealth for me. Some of them are no longer creating wealth, but that doesn't mean I don't still have the money, (or the objects and services I traded the money for), that I earned from that project.



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Looks like the righties have their panties all bunched up over this OWS movement.

It would appear that it's working out just fine!

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Carry on...

ahhh yes, "I'm virtuous but you're not" retort.
the rockefellers gave away well over $10 billion in todays dollars. so are they an evil 1%er or a good 1%er.
as far as what I do for charity, that along with my personal life isn't board fodder.

have fun at your meeting.
we'll all look forward to your success controlling an industry.
lol

My point is we have basically become a corpocracy. The average person has very little say in what goes on in government yet we are having tens of billions of dollars in debt dumped on us via their bailouts and on top of that they are avoiding paying taxes in record numbers. The amassing of wealth by the wealthiest is a startling trend that is increasingly shrinking the middle class. Small businesses are not given the same breaks that the corps get making it very hard to for someone to succeed on their own. The corps want to keep us as worker/consumer bees as this is what keeps their machine going.

is that how the unaccomplished see it?

I am not saying its a zero sum system. Wealth can be created and is created but re-direction of wealth appears to be more common. The growing businesses and economies in general in india and asia have a direct corelation between the dwindling economy of the US.

Nope, it's how the VAST MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION see it.

Those who do not have their heads up their asses.

You know, people who DON'T get their (mis)information through Fox and Rush.

People who evaluate reality instead, unlike your minority ilk.:thumbsup

Myspace was valued at 400 million dollars at the time it was sold. Much of that value doesn't really exist of course, its not created wealth but just stocks that can fluctuate but its value dropped big time with the success of facebook. I am not saying that wealth cannot be created just that more often than not its just re-directed from one product/service/economy to another.

Thank you.
while I agree with you that the bailouts were wrong and never should have happened, I also believe that corporations should never be taxed in the first place. EVERY dime that comes out of a corp and goes into someone's pocket is taxed. regardless of the lies the left and the simple tell.
We also have been thrust into a global economy by idiot politicians during a time when we should have had strong economical isolationist policies in place to protect our high standard of living. Now that we're in the global economy, corporations can shop around for the best tax rates and set up shop in that country. That cat is out of the bag.
As far as amassing wealth goes, people becoming richer, does NOTHING to the middle class. The middle class have more now than they ever have and thats a fact. Additionally, 99.9% of today's rich are first or second generation who rose up from the middle class, meaning that our middle class has the most opportunity of any middle class on the planet.
Lastly, I own a small business. I've made more money than I've ever thought possible when I was younger. I know plenty of other small business owners who are doing well. Success is as easy as it ever was for those who want to work hard to get ahead.
The problem is, ows wants something HANDED to them that the rest of us fought tooth and nail to EARN.

facebook's "wealth" is just as ethereal.
I don't even know, has it turned a profit ever?

odd.
I'll probably pass them on my way to happy hour.
I'll have to check my panties on the way past.:1orglaugh

Well, you are the one that goes around pretending to be part of the 1%... you aren't them and you never will be them, you will always be the rabble, that they control so much so, you go around defending them and pretend to be part of them.... and it's funny to watch. :1orglaugh

Again, woman, much like the rest of your claims, your saying it, doesn't make it so.

Wow, such logic... let me use it right fast.... you denying it, doesn't mean it's not true. :1orglaugh Even more so when many others believe it to be true as well, and have for decades.

I have seen you post that statement at least a half dozen times. I am not any closer to hearing it than I was the first time you said it.

You seem to visualize that this 1% is a group of demigods that manage the planet. The 1% everyone else here talks about is the top income earners, the people that actually pay the largest share of taxes.

Top 1% is people who make over $340k/year.

I'm guessing there are a couple of porners who qualify.

Probably 1% of us?

During ww2 the elite's (on all sides of the war) sat outside of London sipping wine while the city was bombed and burned... the "working wealthy" died along side the poor, the elite's sat perfectly safe, the entire time.

You and the media think the 1% is hard working tax payers that make a decent living... the rest of us know the real 1% actually do control the World.

Yes, some idiots at the Occupy movement think taxing "working rich" people will solve problems, those peoples are idiots... the "majority" know they aren't the problem, the majority know they are powerless slaves like everyone else.